People being detained and "exported" by ICE

[Lilibet]

I hope this story is accessible. Oregon Live can be twitchy. It’s about the court hearing for two foreign students and the judge is terrific, the government attorney not so much. The judge also ordered that the students not be removed from Oregon.

Judge blocks removal of 2 Oregon college students, orders student visa status restored

A University of Oregon student from Great Britain seeking two masters degrees and an Oregon State University student from Mexico studying for a doctorate degree filed separate suits in court.

www.oregonlive.com

McShane started the brief hearing by firing questions at the federal lawyers and pressing for details on why the government had terminated the students’ legal status.

“How is this occurring?” McShane asked. “There has to be some regulations for when it’s appropriate and not appropriate. What regulation is ICE following here?”

Assistant U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Conti, representing the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, said he hadn’t had sufficient time to gather all the information.

But he argued the students haven’t suffered irreparable harm at this stage and the government hasn’t issued a final decision that the students could then challenge administratively before U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

 

[Sillybilly]

Google Image Result for https://www.cair.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/2025-04-05-12_39_17-Judge-Demands-U.S.-Return-Man-Wrongly-Sent-to-El-Salvador-Prison-HypeFresh-Inc.png

No MS-13 visible on this image, so would say it's photoshopped

Moo

Oh, I dunno. I would say that particular MS-13 was done at the "Mr. Zero Artistic Ability Shoppe" in behind the Oval Office

 

[Sillybilly]

Sorry if this has already been done/posted.

THIS is an enlargement of Garcia's left hand while holding his baby.

from: Trump administration asks Supreme Court to block order to return deported Maryland father

It is not typical of any MS-13 tatt I've seen, and there is nada above either the cross or the skull similar to what is depicted in the image DT is showing the public.

(I might have enlarged a bit too much and it's blurry, but the skull is on his pinkie.)

 

[Leilei]

Oh, I dunno. I would say that particular MS-13 was done at the "Mr. Zero Artistic Ability Shoppe" in behind the Oval Office

No black Sharpie - FAKE NEWS!!
*snort*
IMO.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Venezuelan migrant whose deportation was blocked by SCOTUS speaks out

19-year-old Venezuelan migrant Alessandro Paredes spoke to ABC News from a detention center in Texas after his deportation was blocked by the Supreme Court.

abcnews.go.com

“Paredes claimed to ABC News he and others were "forced to sign a paper" saying they are part of a gang. On Friday, the ACLU submitted a document they say their clients at Bluebonnet received from immigration officials. The document, titled "Notice and Warrant of Apprehension and Removal under the Alien Enemies Act," says, "You have been determined to be... a member of Tren de Aragua.

"We have been forced to sign a paper, right here, basically saying that we are part of a gang, that we are part of it, and they're forcing us to sign it," Paredes said.”

As someone whose mother’s entire side of the family survived Nazi POW camps, this is chilling. I grew up hearing stories about what happens when governments start demanding false confessions and how prisoners were beaten, starved, or manipulated into signing statements used to justify their own punishment. It’s a tactic with a long, dark history. Coerced confessions are used by authoritarian regimes to turn victims into “criminals” on paper - just enough to make the public look away.

This isn’t just about migrants. It’s about what kind of government we’re allowing to take shape. If ICE can get away with this in the shadows, how long until these tactics surface elsewhere? MOO

From the link
A review of court records found one charge against Paredes in South Carolina for "pointing and presenting firearms at a person" in February.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Just like the manufactured DOJ "people trafficking" thing. Made up.

How many times have you given a co-worker a ride? I used to have to travel all over PA and one of the company owner's was a pilot and had a plane. He sometimes flew myself and a co-worker. So I guess he was trafficking us, right? Another job, I used to give a guy who worked down the street from me a ride because he was my neighbor and couldn't drive. Guess I'm a trafficker, too.

Let's not forget the Chicago Bulls hat, which was also determined to be gang related. Or the guy who had an autism awareness tattoo. Also deemed gang-related. And the gay stylist/hairdresser who had tattoos commemorating a celebration in his birthplace and honoring his parents.

So, anybody who is brown and has a tattoo is fair game?

"All men are created equal" except when they aren't. "Due process" except when we don't feel like it.

Ridiculous to try to defend this.

MOO

How many people have given 8 illegal immigrants a ride?

ETA - Link

Abrego Garcia pulled over in 2022 with 8 others at Tennessee traffic stop

Tennessee police stopped the Maryland sheet metal worker, who was wrongly deported to El Salvador, in a 2022 traffic stop.

www.usatoday.com

In a separate statement from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, officials said he was pulled over for speeding and driving erratically.

The DHS officials said the police officers suspected Abrego Garcia of human trafficking.

“A police officer identified eight other people in the car with no luggage,” the DHS news release said. “They all gave Abrego Garcia's address as their home address.”

 

[Leilei]

From the link
A review of court records found one charge against Paredes in South Carolina for "pointing and presenting firearms at a person" in February.

And he turned himself in.
From the link:
According to WCIV, an ABC News affiliate, Paredes turned himself in on the gun charge and was booked into Al Cannon Detention Center in Charleston County, South Carolina in February.

 

[Leilei]

How many people have given 8 illegal immigrants a ride?

ETA - Link

Abrego Garcia pulled over in 2022 with 8 others at Tennessee traffic stop

Tennessee police stopped the Maryland sheet metal worker, who was wrongly deported to El Salvador, in a 2022 traffic stop.

www.usatoday.com

In a separate statement from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, officials said he was pulled over for speeding and driving erratically.

The DHS officials said the police officers suspected Abrego Garcia of human trafficking.

“A police officer identified eight other people in the car with no luggage,” the DHS news release said. “They all gave Abrego Garcia's address as their home address.”

So... was he given due process or not?
Accusing someone of human trafficking would normally result in charges, yes?
And then, he would be given due process.
Right?
IMO.

 

[Lilibet]

From the link
A review of court records found one charge against Paredes in South Carolina for "pointing and presenting firearms at a person" in February.

Note what the link also says following the quote you posted:

A review of court records found one charge against Paredes in South Carolina for "pointing and presenting firearms at a person" in February. The case is still ongoing and Paredes is scheduled to have his second court appearance in August.
BBM

So he had not yet had his day in court (due process) for this charge.

Here’s the problem that the government is conveniently ignoring:
—There are no standardized rules they are following for deciding on exportation.
—They are not telling the immigrants why.
—They are giving them forms to sign (in English) to admit they are gang members.
—They are not giving them the opportunity to appeal.
—None of this is legal.

None of this should be OK with anyone who values the Constitution and law. Trump has promised retribution, so pretty soon these illegal actions will be used by the government against citizens who have opposed Trump.

JMO

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Deportations without court hearings are more common than you think.

In recent years, immigration authorities have increasingly fast-tracked their efforts to kick certain people out of the United States without court hearings in a process known as “expedited removal.”

Only about 15% of the roughly 400,000 people who are removed from the United States each year ever go before a judge, according to Greg Chen, advocacy director of the American Immigration Lawyers Association.

March, 2017

https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/03/politics/deportations-without-court-hearings/index.html

 

[sapphire blue]

Deportations without court hearings are more common than you think.

In recent years, immigration authorities have increasingly fast-tracked their efforts to kick certain people out of the United States without court hearings in a process known as “expedited removal.”

Only about 15% of the roughly 400,000 people who are removed from the United States each year ever go before a judge, according to Greg Chen, advocacy director of the American Immigration Lawyers Association.

March, 2017

https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/03/politics/deportations-without-court-hearings/index.html

Dont forget this part of the article

‘During the Obama administration, the use of expedited removal was limited to undocumented immigrants apprehended within 100 miles of the border who’d been in the United States for less than two weeks.

The Trump administration has indicated it plans to use that approach in far more cases, widening the definition to include undocumented immigrants apprehended anywhere in the United States who’ve been in the country for less than two years.’

Been in the country for less than two weeks, or less than two years. Very different to someone who has lived in the country for more than a decade.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Deportations without court hearings are more common than you think.

In recent years, immigration authorities have increasingly fast-tracked their efforts to kick certain people out of the United States without court hearings in a process known as “expedited removal.”

Only about 15% of the roughly 400,000 people who are removed from the United States each year ever go before a judge, according to Greg Chen, advocacy director of the American Immigration Lawyers Association.

March, 2017

https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/03/politics/deportations-without-court-hearings/index.html

Your link was about undocumented immigrants. Garcia is not undocumented nor was he in the US illegally at the time of his arrest, so I fail to see the relevancy.

The Supreme Court of the United States said in a 9-0 decision that everyone deserves due process. When every single Justice states this is the law of the land, then maybe we should listen.

Using "but the other guy did it" as an excuse sounds like 2nd grade problem-solving skills. We're beyond that. Or we should be. JMO.

Supreme Court requires noncitizens to challenge detention and removal in Texas - SCOTUSblog

The Supreme Court on Monday lifted a pair of orders by a federal judge in Washington, D.C., that had barred the government from removing noncitizens who are designated as members of a Venezuelan gang under a March 15 executive order issued by President Donald Trump. By a vote of 5-4, the justices

www.scotusblog.com

 

[Anance]

What a mess the USA government has created! They gave El Salvador $6 million to look after people deported from the USA for a year, and now El Salvador is going to trade those people for political prisoners? Was that discussed during the recent meeting between Bukele and Trump?

I don't think this will happen--it's just theatrics. Maduro already said he will only accept one flight of Venezuelans, and Cuba said the same. IMO - this is just changing the subject to offering a humanitarian solution.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Not sure if this has been posted yet

MSN

The Independent

Teenage German tourists handcuffed and deported from Hawaii over ‘suspicious’ hotel booking​

Two globetrotting German teenagers had their travel plans upended when they were denied entry to the U.S. and detained by border officers who called their trip “suspicious,” according to a report.

Charlotte Pohl, 19, and Maria Lepère, 18, from Rostock—about 140 miles north of Berlin—had already visited New Zealand and Thailand as part of their around-the-world trip after graduating from high school.

Upon arriving in Honolulu on March 18 with hopes of island-hopping Hawaii’s islands, the teens were allegedly denied entry into the U.S. despite holding the required Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA), according to German newspaper Ostsee Zeitung.

Pohl and Lepère were interrogated in Honolulu International Airport for hours and allegedly subjected to body scans and strip searches before, finally, U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents denied them entry to the country and said they would be deported, according to the outlet.

“It was all like a fever dream,” Lepère said. “We had already noticed a little bit of what was going on in the U.S. But at the time, we didn't think it was happening to Germans. That was perhaps very naive. We felt so small and powerless.”

 

[SouthAussie]

Sounds like no deal between El Salvador and Venezuela. Venezuela is very angry and is accusing Bukele of human trafficking.

Probably an appropriate term for what both Bukele and Trump are doing. Money and people changing hands between them. imo


"Venezuela’s chief prosecutor has accused El Salvador’s president of being a “tyrannical” human trafficker after Nayib Bukele offered to exchange the 252 Venezuelan migrants deported to his country’s prisons by Donald Trump for the same number of political prisoners in Venezuela.

In a televised address, Saab claimed the Salvadorian’s “cynical” offer exposed him as a narcissistic “neo-Nazi” who had “kidnapped” more than 250 Venezuelan migrants sent to a maximum-security jail in El Salvador by the Trump administration since mid-March.

“Bukele is a serial human rights violator,” Saab said, pointing to the politician’s “horrifying” three-year anti-gang crackdown, which has seen at least 85,000 Salvadorians thrown in jail, largely without due process. Human rights activists say more than 360 prisoners have died."

Venezuela accuses El Salvador of human trafficking as prisoners caught in row between authoritarians

Nayib Bukele offered to exchange 252 Venezuelan migrants deported to El Salvador for 252 prisoners in Venezuela

www.theguardian.com

 

[MrsWatson]

How many people have given 8 illegal immigrants a ride?

ETA - Link

Abrego Garcia pulled over in 2022 with 8 others at Tennessee traffic stop

Tennessee police stopped the Maryland sheet metal worker, who was wrongly deported to El Salvador, in a 2022 traffic stop.

www.usatoday.com

In a separate statement from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, officials said he was pulled over for speeding and driving erratically.

The DHS officials said the police officers suspected Abrego Garcia of human trafficking.

“A police officer identified eight other people in the car with no luggage,” the DHS news release said. “They all gave Abrego Garcia's address as their home address.”

BBM

That happened two years ago.

Where are the charges from this incident? Was it investigated or was this something else the DHS made up to CYA, like the photoshopped tattoos?

 

[SouthAussie]

The DHS officials said the police officers suspected Abrego Garcia of human trafficking.

Ironic really. Trump pays Bukele to take people and deny them their liberty, and they accuse Abrego Garcia of human trafficking.

imo

 

[Lilibet]

BBM

That happened two years ago.

Where are the charges from this incident? Was it investigated or was this something else the DHS made up to CYA, like the photoshopped tattoos?

I will try to find the link but cops called ICE and they didn’t want them, so cops let them go,

 

[SouthAussie]

I will try to find the link but cops called ICE and they didn’t want them, so cops let them go,

It is right in the link posted by BayouBelle, it just wasn't mentioned in the post.

"Those troopers contacted federal law enforcement officials, who they say instructed them not to detain him."

 

[nao]

Moo...when I think human trafficking...I imagine bringing people over international borders and/or selling them into slavery of sorts.
Giving a ride to "illegals" not sure how that is trafficking.
President Trump is selling people....or I suppose paying people to take, ..moo