People being detained and "exported" by ICE

[fred&edna]

i again read this article posted previously by keek

New England man, a US citizen, detained by border agents for hours, he says

A New England man who is a U.S. citizen said American border agents in Vermont detained him for several hours Sunday night as he and his wife were trying to return home from Canada.

www.wcvb.com

had i been in Bachir Atallah's same situation i would have done whatever was asked and likely thanked the border patrol agents for doing their jobs.

jmo

 

[keek]

Could you please provide a link showing that Forbes Breaking News on You Tube is actually owned by Forbes magazine? There's nothing listing that on the YouTube Channel, nothing listed in their Wikipedia and nothing listed on the Forbes.com website linking the two. Happy to be corrected, but I am not seeing any relationship and the You Tube channel is incredibly biased, imo. ETA: The Forbes mag logo is black with a white F, not red with a white F as the You Tube channel logo.

I did find this interesting tidbit on their Wiki page.

In July 2014, the Forbes family bought out Elevation and then Hong Kong-based investment group Integrated Whale Media Investments purchased a 51 percent majority of the company.

In 2017, Isaac Stone Fish, a senior fellow of the Asia Society, wrote in The Washington Post that "Since that purchase, there have been several instances of editorial meddling on stories involving China that raise questions about Forbes magazine's commitment to editorial independence.

Not Forbes magazine. Forbes utube is VERY different and some of their offshoots. Lots of maga mentality on the Utube. Well known of people who USED to give it a watch before it descended into garbage talk.

 

[keek]

So this is where we are as a nation: people enthusiastically defending concentration camps in response to state-sanctioned gaslighting.

MOO.

They work and walk among us, but then they show themselves. Twisted minds for people who had the fortune due to ancestors to be in a free and sound country to do as they pleased. America is for all good people past, now and future. Uses that PRIVILEGE to see honesty and good things. Otherwise, living here is a waste of space.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Sen. Chris Van Hollen was blocked Wednesday from visiting Kilmar Abrego Garcia at the notorious Terrorism Confinement Center (CECOT) mega-prison complex after the Democrat traveled to El Salvador to push for the release of the illegal migrant and purported MS-13 member.

Maryland Sen. Chris Van Hollen turned away from El Salvador prison in push for alleged MS-13 member Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s return

Maryland Sen. Chris Van Hollen met with El Salvador’s Vice President Félix Ulloa Monday during a visit to the Latin American country in a push for the release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who has…

nypost.com

 

[Vern]

That is absolutely not true. I am an ex-Pat in the UK. I am waiting for my settled status and in the meantime, have overstayed my Visa. Thus, I am considered an "illegal immigrant". I was never detained, never locked up, and never in any way threatened with that. The only thing I am required to do is electronically confirm my address every month.

Yep; it certainly wasn't close to reality of what's happening in other countries as alleged. I posted the links t the actualities last evening, but THANK YOU for speaking up and out given your status as an Ex-at in the UK/

I appreciate those 'keeping it real'.

 

[keek]

i would also include the New York Post in the list of propaganda MAGA news sources. I always have a hard time stopping myself from rolling my eyes when that website is linked as a “news” source. They are one step up from a tabloid and completely biased. Just IMO.

WELL, yes it is.

 

[Lyanna]

i would also include the New York Post in the list of propaganda MAGA news sources. I always have a hard time stopping myself from rolling my eyes when that website is linked as a “news” source. They are one step up from a tabloid and completely biased. Just IMO.

Completely agree, was reading Ad Fontes Media site about NY Post, they rate all news and score based on reliability and bias. For reliability, they score between 0-64 anything over 40 is considered good, anything under that not so much - NYPost 31.83
Bias is scored anything from -42 - +42 - NYpost 9.33.
Skews right wing, so doesn't offer impartial and neutral reporting at all and is often reliant on opinion over fact.

Jmo, moo, imo

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Both governments say they would be violating each others’ sovereignty if they facilitated Abrego Garcia’s return—Van Hollen said El Salvador Vice President Félix Ulloa told him “El Salvador can’t smuggle Mr. Abrego Garcia into the United States,” while Trump officials have said it would amount to “kidnapping” if they took Abrego Garcia back from El Salvador, since he’s a citizen there.
(…)
The Department of Homeland Security on Wednesday tweeted an image of a restraining order application Abrego Garcia’s wife filed against him in 2021, alleging he punched, scratched and bruised her, and ripped off her shirt. “Kilmar Abrego Garcia had a history of violence and was not the upstanding ‘Maryland Man’ the media has portrayed him as,” DHS wrote on X.

Van Hollen Prohibited From Seeing Maryland Man In El Salvador Prison

The Maryland senator traveled to El Salvador Wednesday in hopes of meeting with Abrego Garcia.

www.forbes.com

 

[SouthAussie]

Both governments say they would be violating each others’ sovereignty if they facilitated Abrego Garcia’s return—Van Hollen said El Salvador Vice President Félix Ulloa told him “El Salvador can’t smuggle Mr. Abrego Garcia into the United States,” while Trump officials have said it would amount to “kidnapping” if they took Abrego Garcia back from El Salvador, since he’s a citizen there.

That sounds absolutely ridiculous.

How about just agreeing to bring Mr Garcia back, between them?

If they can agree to ship unconvicted people off to a mega prison in another country, they can agree to release and bring an unconvicted man back.

They really sound like 5 year olds. imo

 

[keek]

That sounds absolutely ridiculous.

How about just agreeing to bring Mr Garcia back, between them?

If they can agree to ship unconvicted people off to a mega prison in another country, they can agree to release and bring an unconvicted man back.

Playing sicko games.

 

[Lyanna]

Both governments say they would be violating each others’ sovereignty if they facilitated Abrego Garcia’s return—Van Hollen said El Salvador Vice President Félix Ulloa told him “El Salvador can’t smuggle Mr. Abrego Garcia into the United States,” while Trump officials have said it would amount to “kidnapping” if they took Abrego Garcia back from El Salvador, since he’s a citizen there.
(…)
The Department of Homeland Security on Wednesday tweeted an image of a restraining order application Abrego Garcia’s wife filed against him in 2021, alleging he punched, scratched and bruised her, and ripped off her shirt. “Kilmar Abrego Garcia had a history of violence and was not the upstanding ‘Maryland Man’ the media has portrayed him as,” DHS wrote on X.

Van Hollen Prohibited From Seeing Maryland Man In El Salvador Prison

The Maryland senator traveled to El Salvador Wednesday in hopes of meeting with Abrego Garcia.

www.forbes.com

Apart from the fact that he is being held at the request of the US Government and not being held for a crime committed in El Salvador. The Government could request that he be granted humanitarian parole. He would be eligible for that.

Moo

 

[keek]

That sounds absolutely ridiculous.

How about just agreeing to bring Mr Garcia back, between them?

If they can agree to ship unconvicted people off to a mega prison in another country, they can agree to release and bring an unconvicted man back.

They really sound like 5 year olds. imo

Like the tariff games, all the games that now USA is being isolated per him and his ilk around him. Europe has taken control for their own good. Never has this country been so .. ashamed . Those who are informed and have a thinking mind with a social conscience of ALL. May they get to experience themselves what they support in a criminal to start. He wields the pen, the others around him give him the papers. Having a blast.

 

[SouthAussie]

"Boasberg said the administration can avoid contempt proceedings if it attempts to remedy the violation by retaking custody of the deportees, who were sent to the El Salvador prison in violation of his order, so they have a chance to challenge their removal.

Boasberg said if the administration chooses not to remedy the violation, he will move forward with trying to identify the official or officials who made the decision not to turn the planes around.

Then, he could refer the matter for prosecution. Since Trump’s Justice Department leadership would almost certainly opt not to bring a case, the judge said he would appoint another attorney to prosecute the contempt case should the government decline to do so."

What happens next after judge warns of possible contempt prosecution over deportation flights order

A federal judge’s ruling that the Trump administration appears to have willfully violated his order to turn around planes of migrants headed for El Salvador increases the prospect of officials being held in criminal contempt of court and potentially facing possible prosecution.

apnews.com

 

[SouthAussie]

"Now, Trump has a new proposal that sounds similarly suited to light Americans’ tax dollars on fire.

“We’re going to give them a stipend. We’re going to give them some money and a plane ticket, and then we’re going to work with them — if they’re good, if we want them back in — we’re going to work with them to get them back in as quickly as we can.”

..... essentially, the same proposal that earned Mitt Romney mockery during the 2012 presidential race. At the time, even Trump called Romney’s plan “maniacal” and “crazy” and said he thought it helped cost Romney the election."

Trump wants to pay immigrants under a self-deportation program

Trump’s idea to pay immigrants to leave the country would be an obvious and idiotic waste of government money.

www.msnbc.com

 

[SouthAussie]

"According to data from Witness at the Border, a U.S.-based migrant advocacy group, there have been more than 350 deportation flights since the start of the year.

... the Trump administration deported fewer people in February 2025 than the Joe Biden administration did in February the previous year.

Some countries, including Colombia and Panama, have said they are providing migrants with food, water, and medical care, as well as the chance to apply for asylum with assistance from UN agencies.

But concerns remain from human rights groups about how migrants are treated upon their arrival in other countries, such as El Salvador, where deportees have been transferred to the country’s notorious mega prison .... "

Where Trump's deportations are sending migrants

In the first few months of his second term, President Donald Trump has taken steps to carry out what he has previously said will be “the largest domestic deportation operation” in U.S. history. Experts say recipient countries are likely feeling economic and political pressure from the United...

www.pbs.org

 

[Elley Mae]

Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s wife sought restraining order in 2021, DHS says​

https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/immigration/border-coverage/kilmar-abrego-garcias-wife-restraining-order-dhs/

Weird, I heard this a few hours ago yet no msn is reporting it.

Go figure.
Jmo

 

[otto]

Both governments say they would be violating each others’ sovereignty if they facilitated Abrego Garcia’s return—Van Hollen said El Salvador Vice President Félix Ulloa told him “El Salvador can’t smuggle Mr. Abrego Garcia into the United States,” while Trump officials have said it would amount to “kidnapping” if they took Abrego Garcia back from El Salvador, since he’s a citizen there.
(…)
The Department of Homeland Security on Wednesday tweeted an image of a restraining order application Abrego Garcia’s wife filed against him in 2021, alleging he punched, scratched and bruised her, and ripped off her shirt. “Kilmar Abrego Garcia had a history of violence and was not the upstanding ‘Maryland Man’ the media has portrayed him as,” DHS wrote on X.

Van Hollen Prohibited From Seeing Maryland Man In El Salvador Prison

The Maryland senator traveled to El Salvador Wednesday in hopes of meeting with Abrego Garcia.

www.forbes.com

Is the 4 year old domestic violence complaint supposed to be some sort of "gotcha" moment? Domestic violence is a criteria for "gang member"?

Round 'em up! All USA citizens whose name appears on a domestic violence complaint should be put on a plane and sent to El Salvador. Make USA spouses safe again!

I doubt that the man who was illegally abducted and sent to a foreign prison is alive. That's the only logical reason to explain why both USA and El Salvador governments refuse to produce him. I think that Kilmar Abrego Garcia has been murdered and the USA government is involved in a cover-up.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

A past proven and reliable source told cops with the Prince George’s County police that Abreago Garcia is an active member of MS-13 with the Westers clique in March 2019, according to the gang interview field sheet.
(…)
The confidential source further advised that he is the rank of “Chequeo” with the moniker of “Chele” and that his clothes were reportedly affiliated with the gang.

Alleged MS-13 gangbanger Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s rank, street name revealed as fight over deportation to El Salvador megaprison rages: docs

The feds have claimed Abrego Garcia is part of the vicious MS-13 gang and that he was illegally in the United States.

nypost.com

 

[otto]

A past proven and reliable source told cops with the Prince George’s County police that Abreago Garcia is an active member of MS-13 with the Westers clique in March 2019, according to the gang interview field sheet.
(…)
The confidential source further advised that he is the rank of “Chequeo” with the moniker of “Chele” and that his clothes were reportedly affiliated with the gang.

Alleged MS-13 gangbanger Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s rank, street name revealed as fight over deportation to El Salvador megaprison rages: docs

The feds have claimed Abrego Garcia is part of the vicious MS-13 gang and that he was illegally in the United States.

nypost.com

What is the name of this witness?

Can invisible witnesses give evidence at invisible trials to justify detention and deportation of USA citizens?

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> Vasquez Sura told The Post Wednesday that when she asked for protection from Abrego Garcia in 2021 she was “acting out of caution after a disagreement with Kilmar … in case things escalated” after she survived domestic abuse “in a previous relationship.”

Alleged MS-13 member Kilmar Abrego Garcia, deported by Trump admin to El Salvador megaprison, accused of physically abusing wife — who’s fiercely advocating for his return

Garcia’s wife, Jennifer Vasquez, applied for a protective order against her husband in 2021.

nypost.com