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There is this link that I posted a little further back ....
"Van Hollen said Salvadoran Vice President Félix Ulloa told him the government had no information connecting Abrego Garcia to MS-13 ....
“If the government of El Salvador has no evidence that he was part of MS-13, why is El Salvador continuing to hold him in CECOT?” Van Hollen asked.
“And his answer was that the Trump administration is paying the government of El Salvador to keep him at CECOT.” "
@otto and anyone else who is interested. I scoured the Internet for live feeds of the nationwide protests tomorrow. I only found one. It’s for Washington DC.
nypost.com
However, here are the other cities where there will be protests in addition to the 50 state capitols. In this case, Google is your friend.
Anti-Trump protests in DC: Watch Live
After a nationwide protest on April 5 against President Donald Trump and DOGE adviser Elon Musk, another round of anti-Trump rallies return across all 50 states on Saturday, April 19. Live coverage…
nypost.com
However, here are the other cities where there will be protests in addition to the 50 state capitols. In this case, Google is your friend.
Tonight is the 250th anniversary of the Midnight Ride of Paul Revere. He awaited the lantern signal from the steeple of the Old North Church in Boston letting him know how the British troops were arriving—one if by land, two if by sea. His ride began, as the network of men also rode, crying out “the Redcoats are coming.” Local militia gathered to meet British troops the next morning when they arrived. It was the start of the American Revolution. So the protests tomorrow are appropriate.
For those not in the U.S., here is a little more history.
www.oldnorth.com
On the evening of April 18, 1775, allies of Paul Revere climbed Old North Church’s steeple and held high two lanterns as a signal that British forces were marching to Lexington and Concord “by sea” across the Charles River. Those two signal lanterns set a complex alarm system into motion, a system that included many messengers fanning out across Massachusetts to spread the warning that night. Once Revere got across the river, he began his own famous Midnight Ride as part of this system. Ultimately, when the British arrived in Lexington the next morning, they were met by local militia members, and the shots fired that morning ignited the American Revolutionary War.
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Last night several slogans were projected on the Old North Church.
There’s a third image at the link. I noticed a comment at one link “The Red Hats are coming!”
www.universalhub.com
For those not in the U.S., here is a little more history.
250th Anniversary of "Two if By Sea" & Paul Revere's Ride
Celebrate the 250th anniversary of Old North Church's famous "two if by sea" signal lanterns and Paul Revere's Ride on April 18, 2025.
www.oldnorth.com
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Last night several slogans were projected on the Old North Church.
There’s a third image at the link. I noticed a comment at one link “The Red Hats are coming!”
Updating Old North Church's famous message
Adam Balsam captured the latest work tonight by Silence Dogood, a local artists' collective using one of Ben Franklin's pen names to spread the word against tyranny, in this case by updating Paul Revere's signal message on the side of Old North Church - the night before the 250th anniversary of...
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Looks like the illegal deportation of one man is the test case to see whether Trump will violate the Constitution. If so, there's no turning back. There will be nothing in place to prevent the deportation of political opponents, and people who represent guardrails to uphold the Constitution.
"U.S. President Donald Trump has done numerous things in his second term that have been deemed authoritarian or illegal, and he's threatening to do more. But there's one line he hasn't crossed, at least not yet. He has not wilfully, clearly, defied a court order, crossing the Rubicon into a constitutional no man's land where rules don't apply.
...
What's clearer about this case is that it has the potential to open the floodgates to the constitutional crisis under Trump that many have feared and predicted. ... The response from Trump's team, so far? Outright mockery. The administration was reprimanded by lower courts and ridiculed them. The Supreme Court weighed in, and now, for the first time, Trump may be defying the high court.
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"The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order," the decision read. "This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans … still hold dear."
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A federal lawyer admitted in court that the deportation had been a mistake. The courts have now demanded that Trump bring Abrego Garcia back, or at least try. But the administration has brushed them off. In fact, it says, there was no mistake. It even suspended the federal attorney who admitted the error.
...
Numerous Trump officials, and the president himself, have dismissed the lack of due process. "Do you think that we're going to sit around, wringing our hands, wondering if, 'Oh, maybe we should release this person, give them a little bit of extra time, give them a little extra chance to plead their case?'" asked White House aide Stephen Miller.
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The final test will come when the courts deliver new instructions, and how Trump responds to them."
"U.S. President Donald Trump has done numerous things in his second term that have been deemed authoritarian or illegal, and he's threatening to do more. But there's one line he hasn't crossed, at least not yet. He has not wilfully, clearly, defied a court order, crossing the Rubicon into a constitutional no man's land where rules don't apply.
...
What's clearer about this case is that it has the potential to open the floodgates to the constitutional crisis under Trump that many have feared and predicted. ... The response from Trump's team, so far? Outright mockery. The administration was reprimanded by lower courts and ridiculed them. The Supreme Court weighed in, and now, for the first time, Trump may be defying the high court.
...
"The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order," the decision read. "This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans … still hold dear."
...
A federal lawyer admitted in court that the deportation had been a mistake. The courts have now demanded that Trump bring Abrego Garcia back, or at least try. But the administration has brushed them off. In fact, it says, there was no mistake. It even suspended the federal attorney who admitted the error.
...
Numerous Trump officials, and the president himself, have dismissed the lack of due process. "Do you think that we're going to sit around, wringing our hands, wondering if, 'Oh, maybe we should release this person, give them a little bit of extra time, give them a little extra chance to plead their case?'" asked White House aide Stephen Miller.
...
The final test will come when the courts deliver new instructions, and how Trump responds to them."
The Pope is clear on this
Supreme Court of USA rules against Trump deportations
And here we have the beginning of the constitutional fight.
Supreme Court of USA rules against Trump deportations
And here we have the beginning of the constitutional fight.
For a local paper of ours, Syracuse.com has been having a lot of good coverage. They are investigating profiling of immigrants in upstate and central New York. A good, yet disheartening and horrific read.
If you click on any links to sub articles and they come up as subscriber content, put the titles of the article in Google search and then you can read it for free.
www.syracuse.com
If you click on any links to sub articles and they come up as subscriber content, put the titles of the article in Google search and then you can read it for free.
Inside Trump’s Upstate NY migrant hunt: Border Patrol’s meaner tactics snare workers and families
“It’s scary,” said a woman whose relatives have disappeared. “You can be followed just for being Hispanic.”
Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier has directed state law enforcement officers to stand down on enforcing a new state immigration law, guidance that came shortly after a federal judge in Miami said she was “astounded” that state authorities had continued to make arrests despite her ordering them not to.
In a hearing in Miami federal court on Friday, lawyers suing the state said that as many as 15 arrests have been made by Florida law enforcement officers over the past two weeks in violation of an April 4 order issued by U.S. District Judge Kathleen Williams. One of the people arrested was a U.S. citizen born in Georgia.
In a hearing in Miami federal court on Friday, lawyers suing the state said that as many as 15 arrests have been made by Florida law enforcement officers over the past two weeks in violation of an April 4 order issued by U.S. District Judge Kathleen Williams. One of the people arrested was a U.S. citizen born in Georgia.
I live in an area where I am sick to feel that there is the def. possibility for sure of ICE cars going around. Grocery stores, schools for example. No one such as these people, working at not so nice cushy jobs should never have to feel this sick fear they have. THey have homes, jobs, children, friends, security and safety. The others cannot and would not even be able to let their minds go there of how it would feel to be them. There is no warning, there is no time to settle anything, say goodbye, arrange for their money to be safe, their homes, their pets, NOTHING. INHUMAN nightmare. Clearly I am not speaking of proven bad people. There are beyond and beyond plenty right in the area homegrown, harming others, killing others 24/7. Just 'open your paper' in your own city or state and say differently. They got to be BORN HERE and are useless and damaging.
U.S. citizen released from jail after arrest under Florida’s new anti-immigration law • NC Newsline
a U.S. citizen wrongfully arrested under a Florida immigration law has been released and his mother is exploring filing a lawsuit
ncnewsline.com
Leon County Judge LaShawn Riggans ruled Thursday morning that she lacked jurisdiction to release him because U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement had formally asked the jail to hold him for 48 hours.
After Riggans’ inspection of his Social Security card and birth certificate, which an advocate waved in the courtroom, the judge said she found no probable cause for the charge.
“In looking at it, and feeling it, and holding it up to the light, the court can clearly see the watermark to show that this is indeed an authentic document,” Riggans said.
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U.S. citizen released from jail after arrest under Florida’s new anti-immigration law • NC Newsline
a U.S. citizen wrongfully arrested under a Florida immigration law has been released and his mother is exploring filing a lawsuit
Leon County Judge LaShawn Riggans ruled Thursday morning that she lacked jurisdiction to release him because U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement had formally asked the jail to hold him for 48 hours.
After Riggans’ inspection of his Social Security card and birth certificate, which an advocate waved in the courtroom, the judge said she found no probable cause for the charge.
“In looking at it, and feeling it, and holding it up to the light, the court can clearly see the watermark to show that this is indeed an authentic document,” Riggans said.
Thank goodness he is out of jail.
"I feel fine leaving that place, I felt bad in there. They didn’t give us anything to eat all day yesterday,”
.... he had asked the trooper who made the arrest why he was being taken into custody, because he was a U.S. citizen.
His mother ... planned to sue over her son’s arrest.
“I don’t have a way to pay all the people who are helping us. People from other states have called us, and we don’t have a way to pay them; we can only thank them,” Gomez-Perez said.
(from your linked article)
Yes! The trauma many will endure from these quick grabs.Thank goodness he is out of jail.
"I feel fine leaving that place, I felt bad in there. They didn’t give us anything to eat all day yesterday,”
.... he had asked the trooper who made the arrest why he was being taken into custody, because he was a U.S. citizen.
His mother ... planned to sue over her son’s arrest.
“I don’t have a way to pay all the people who are helping us. People from other states have called us, and we don’t have a way to pay them; we can only thank them,” Gomez-Perez said.
(from your linked article)
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"Thousands of protesters rallied in Washington and other cities across the US on Saturday to voice their opposition to President Donald Trump's policies on deportations, government firings, and the wars in Gaza and Ukraine.
Outside the White House, protesters carried banners that read "Workers should have the power," "No kingship," "Stop arming Israel" and "Due process," media footage showed.
Some demonstrators chanted in support of migrants whom the Trump administration has deported or has been attempting to deport while expressing solidarity with people fired by the federal government and with universities whose funding is threatened by Trump.
"As Trump and his administration mobilise the use of the US deportation machine, we are going to organize networks and systems of resistance to defend our neighbours," a protester said in a rally at Lafayette Square near the White House."
www.odt.co.nz
Outside the White House, protesters carried banners that read "Workers should have the power," "No kingship," "Stop arming Israel" and "Due process," media footage showed.
Some demonstrators chanted in support of migrants whom the Trump administration has deported or has been attempting to deport while expressing solidarity with people fired by the federal government and with universities whose funding is threatened by Trump.
"As Trump and his administration mobilise the use of the US deportation machine, we are going to organize networks and systems of resistance to defend our neighbours," a protester said in a rally at Lafayette Square near the White House."
Thousands rally against Trump across US
Thousands of protesters have rallied in Washington and other cities across the US to voice their opposition to the policies of President Donald Trump.
www.odt.co.nz
The thing is, as I mentioned above, my area. It is a very typical New England area, towns. Not the city that I am talking about. At the local grocery store at the customer service I see all the time, men sending money back home, wearing their outdoor work clothes, dirty from their outdoor jobs, through the Western Union that wires money. I see the people staffing the registers at a certain grocery store, cleaning the malls. Naming a few jobs of what I see. Landscaping, always. Believe me, I could fall apart in line at the customer service for years knowing that they came here to work and get desperately needed money for home and were hated by and to be destroyed by t and his followers. I wish the 'others' would notice their dirty hands and faces in line, holding their cash, knowing how hard it was to get here and get that job to begin with.
Welcome to WS and to this thread @Jfeets726.For a local paper of ours, Syracuse.com has been having a lot of good coverage. They are investigating profiling of immigrants in upstate and central New York. A good, yet disheartening and horrific read.
If you click on any links to sub articles and they come up as subscriber content, put the titles of the article in Google search and then you can read it for free.
Inside Trump’s Upstate NY migrant hunt: Border Patrol’s meaner tactics snare workers and families
“It’s scary,” said a woman whose relatives have disappeared. “You can be followed just for being Hispanic.”
It’s good to hear about local area news coverage.
He Was Living In N.C. Legally. Why Was He Deported?
Julio Zambrano, a Venezuelan asylum seeker with no criminal record, was living in Davidson. Why did the Trump administration deport him to El Salvador?
www.theassemblync.com
Yes, another article. Too long to quote it all.
Julio Zambrano: seeking asylum, no record, no ties to a gang, sent to El Salvador. This is the part that got me from the article...
>>>"Had a list of names of men sent to El Salvador not leaked to the media on March 20, his family wouldn’t know for sure where he was."
About ten forums down, we would all be talking about how a family deserves to know what has happened to their loved ones in the missing persons discussions. There wouldn't be talk of whether Zambrano deserved to be disappeared. Mostly just comments "thinking of his two daughters" "hoping they get answers soon"
So...I hope his wife and daughters get answers soon. I hope they are reunited, and achieve the life that they were looking for when they came to the US, though it might not be here.
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Kilmar Ábrego García’s wife rejects Trump officials’ depictions of him as ‘violent’
Jennifer Vasquez Sura criticizes DHS’s attempt to smear her wrongly deported husband over 2021 civil protective orderwww.theguardian.com
From the horse's mouth, so to speak.. kinda puts the fantasy land stuff well and truly buried..
Kilmar Ábrego García’s wife rejects Trump officials’ depictions of him as ‘violent’
The wife of Kilmar Ábrego García, the Maryland man unlawfully deported to a mega-prison in El Salvador, has strongly criticized the Trump administration’s attempt to smear his character, saying a temporary restraining order against him was “out of caution” and that “he is a loving partner and father” who is being denied justice.
“We were able to work through this situation privately as a family, including by going to counseling. Our marriage only grew stronger in the years that followed. No one is perfect, and no marriage is perfect,” she wrote.
“That is not a justification for ICE’s action of abducting him and deporting him to a country where he was supposed to be protected from deportation.”
i already stated all the legal reasons he should be deported along with my opinions.
being at least a 2-time accused wife beater is evidence he can be vicious... and isn't the sweet, loving husband and daddy as many want to portray him. it's possible he battered his wife with the three kids present and watching... i don't know but it wouldn't surprise me.
<modsnip: personalizing >
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"Van Hollen said Friday that what he called "margarita-gate" was manufactured by Bukele and his officials after they posted a photo of his meeting with Abrego Garcia at a table with what appeared to be filled margarita glasses.
The senator said those glasses were put on the table partway during the meeting by El Salvador officials and that neither he nor the deportee touched the drinks.
Van Hollen said he had no idea what the liquid was. (I wouldn't have touched it either, just sayin')
The El Salvador government tried to have the meeting poolside, but the senator said he had them take it indoors in a dining area.
Van Hollen stressed that Trump is trying to divert attention from the fact that the U.S. government is not complying with the Supreme Court's unanimous order that it facilitate Abrego Garcia's return to the U.S. by bringing up gang violence.
"This case is not about just one man. It's about protecting the constitutional rights of everyone who resides in the United States of America," he said."
abcnews.go.com
The senator said those glasses were put on the table partway during the meeting by El Salvador officials and that neither he nor the deportee touched the drinks.
Van Hollen said he had no idea what the liquid was. (I wouldn't have touched it either, just sayin')
The El Salvador government tried to have the meeting poolside, but the senator said he had them take it indoors in a dining area.
Van Hollen stressed that Trump is trying to divert attention from the fact that the U.S. government is not complying with the Supreme Court's unanimous order that it facilitate Abrego Garcia's return to the U.S. by bringing up gang violence.
"This case is not about just one man. It's about protecting the constitutional rights of everyone who resides in the United States of America," he said."
'Margarita-gate': Sen. Chris Van Hollen slams efforts to stage optics of meeting with Abrego Garcia
Maryland Sen. Chris Van Hollen took the president and government of El Salvador to task for what he said was a setup to shame him and Kilmar Abrego Garcia.
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