Person of Interest Identified in Dylan Redwine case * MARK REDWINE ARRESTED**

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I don't think there will be any official confirmations for awhile. JMO

Could be but at least it looks like they are gathering and making a case. I don't have a dog in this fight. I just want justice for Dylan and the person caught and prosecuted, whoever that turns out to be.

I hate when it turns out to be the parents.. So I always hold out hope it isn't until the last moment.

 

[katydid23]

Could be but at least it looks like they are gathering and making a case. I don't have a dog in this fight. I just want justice for Dylan and the person caught and prosecuted, whoever that turns out to be.

I hate when it turns out to be the parents.. So I always hold out hope it isn't until the last moment.

I understand. But at this point, I think it is the last moment. Mark is going down, finally, imo.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I think if LE has a lot of evidence against Mark Redwine they would publicly name him as the POI. They could be afraid of a lawsuit if they don't arrest him.

Mark making strange statements wont be enough to get an indictment. They need something more.


JMO.

 

[katydid23]

I think if LE has a lot of evidence against Mark Redwine they would publicly name him as the POI. They could be afraid of a lawsuit if they don't arrest him.

Mark making strange statements wont be enough to get an indictment. They need something more.


JMO.

I agree. They probably have very little direct evidence or he would have been in :jail: already. They need more. They need him to crack and give it up. JMO

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I understand. But at this point, I think it is the last moment. Mark is going down, finally, imo.

We will see.. I don't know..

I think if LE has a lot of evidence against Mark Redwine they would publicly name him as the POI. They could be afraid of a lawsuit if they don't arrest him.

Mark making strange statements wont be enough to get an indictment. They need something more.


JMO.

I agree. This man is an idgit. He really could just be this stupid.. but we will see.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I agree. They probably have very little direct evidence or he would have been in :jail: already. They need more. They need him to crack and give it up. JMO

They don't need direct evidence to arrest Mark Redwine. Some good circumstantial evidence would work just fine.

In direct evidence a witness relates what he or she directly experienced. (Usually the experience is by sight or hearing, though it may come through any sense, including [smell,] touch or pain. State v Famber, 358 Mo 288, 214 SW2d 40.)

Circumstantial evidence is evidence that relies on an inference to connect it to a conclusion of fact—like a fingerprint at the scene of a crime. By contrast, direct evidence supports the truth of an assertion directly—i.e., without need for any additional evidence or inference.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_evidence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstantial_evidence

 

[katydid23]

They don't need direct evidence to arrest Mark Redwine. Some good circumstantial evidence would work just fine.





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_evidence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstantial_evidence

They do have some good circumstantial evidence. Mark admits he was the last person to see Dylan. And Dylan stopped communicating with any friends or family shortly after being picked up by his father. Also, Dylan had recently received some unsettling news about him and had expressed concern about having to deal with that potential conversation with his father. Mark has some substance abuse issues and some mental health problems. Mark did not want to be polygraphed and the remains were found in an area that can be seen from Mark's front porch. Unfortunately it is not enough to take him to trial. But it does paint a picture, imo.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

They do have some good circumstantial evidence. Mark admits he was the last person to see Dylan. And Dylan stopped communicating with any friends or family shortly after being picked up by his father. Also, Dylan had recently received some unsettling news about him and had expressed concern about having to deal with that potential conversation with his father. Mark has some substance abuse issues and some mental health problems. Mark did not want to be polygraphed and the remains were found in an area that can be seen from Mark's front porch. Unfortunately it is not enough to take him to trial. But it does paint a picture, imo.

BBM

That may be circumstantial evidence but it's obviously not good enough to even arrest Mark let alone get a conviction.

LE needs more than weak circumstantial evidence before they can move forward.

JMO.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

They do have some good circumstantial evidence. Mark admits he was the last person to see Dylan. And Dylan stopped communicating with any friends or family shortly after being picked up by his father. Also, Dylan had recently received some unsettling news about him and had expressed concern about having to deal with that potential conversation with his father. Mark has some substance abuse issues and some mental health problems. Mark did not want to be polygraphed and the remains were found in an area that can be seen from Mark's front porch. Unfortunately it is not enough to take him to trial. But it does paint a picture, imo.

All that does not add up to a case. There is a difference between suspicious behavior and evidence. Not exactly the same thing. We will see what they have when they finally call someone a suspect.

 

[carbuff]

They practically tore up his house looking for evidence. They wouldn't have had to find much to bring a case -- which makes me wonder whether there is anything to be found. It wouldn't be the first time LE has developed tunnel vision about a suspect.

Don't get me wrong. MW is as far as I can tell a sick man and utterly without redeeming social value. But I'm still neutral as to whether I think he's a murderer.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

All that does not add up to a case. There is a difference between suspicious behavior and evidence. Not exactly the same thing. We will see what they have when they finally call someone a suspect.

Yes. And this suspicious behavior isn't even enough to allow LE to comfortably name Mark Redwine a POI.

Maybe he will make an incriminating statement or someone else will come forward with new information.

JMO.

 

[katydid23]

They practically tore up his house looking for evidence. They wouldn't have had to find much to bring a case -- which makes me wonder whether there is anything to be found. It wouldn't be the first time LE has developed tunnel vision about a suspect.

Don't get me wrong. MW is as far as I can tell a sick man and utterly without redeeming social value. But I'm still neutral as to whether I think he's a murderer.

If someone shoves a kid a little too hard and he hits his head on a rock, is he a murderer? I think it is possible that a drunken man could harm his kid and cover it up and not feel that he is a murderer?

 

[katydid23]

BBM

That may be circumstantial evidence but it's obviously not good enough to even arrest Mark let alone get a conviction.

LE needs more than weak circumstantial evidence before they can move forward.

JMO.

I agree. Notice where I said " NOT ENOUGH TO TAKE HIM TO TRIAL..." :wink:

 

[katydid23]

They practically tore up his house looking for evidence. They wouldn't have had to find much to bring a case -- which makes me wonder whether there is anything to be found. It wouldn't be the first time LE has developed tunnel vision about a suspect.

Don't get me wrong. MW is as far as I can tell a sick man and utterly without redeeming social value. But I'm still neutral as to whether I think he's a murderer.

Also, they did not look closely at his home for quite awhile. He had plenty of time to clean and deflect.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

Thank you to who ever explained the layout of where Dylan's remais were found. I thought I quoted your post ad don't want to go back. I was lacking in my memory. I just remembered pictures of the search and it appeared the searchers were repelling from the cliffs.

I was so glad to hear there's movemet in this case. I really hope it continues and someone is arrested and justice is served for Dylan.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I agree. Notice where I said " NOT ENOUGH TO TAKE HIM TO TRIAL..." :wink:

I saw that. I just disagree about there being "good" circumstantial evidence showing Mark Redwine's guilt.

THAT WHY I USED BBM.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

Yes. And this suspicious behavior isn't even enough to allow LE to comfortably name Mark Redwine a POI.

Maybe he will make an incriminating statement or someone else will come forward with new information.

JMO.

As much as this man has talked it still makes me think they just don't have enough. And then that makes me wander why?

 

[MIKAYOYO]

Also, they did not look closely at his home for quite awhile. He had plenty of time to clean and deflect.

I though they searched his home tthat night Dylan was reported. I know they didn't have CSI tthere but there was a search.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I though they searched his home tthat night Dylan was reported. I know they didn't have CSI tthere but there was a search.

LE waited 10 days before executing a search warrant at Mark's home.

I've never understood why they delayed for so long.

The La Plata County Sheriff’s Office served a search warrant Thursday morning at the home of Mark Redwine, father of 13-year-old Dylan Redwine who disappeared Nov. 19 while visiting his father during Thanksgiving week.

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20121129/NEWS01/121129570

 

[katydid23]

I though they searched his home tthat night Dylan was reported. I know they didn't have CSI tthere but there was a search.

It was not really an in-depth search. They walked through briefly and did a cursory search to look for an obvious crime scene or to see if there was a child hiding or a dead body. But they did not use luminol or cadaver dogs or take any swabs anywhere. Then they thought he had run off to hang with friends so it was quite awhile before they brought a forensics team in.