Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #12

[Carolina Girl]

I'm still praying for a miracle rayer: but wasn't this pond already searched years ago? Or am I thinking of another one? :waitasec:

Did they ever search anywhere, or were they always in cover up mode?

 

[KR2tonenow]

M Furman going over the "crime scene" in the room, at the Hotel Tac.

 

[KR2tonenow]

Says there were a lot of hard edges in a small space, wooden frame of bed....etc.

 

[panthera]

Geraldo: Mark Fuhrman in Room 206 of Hotel Tac showing the size of the room, the hardwood bed frame, etc. Geraldo is going over the autopsy results with Mark, asking if it was a sex crime or robbery. MF saying no forced sex act, unconfirmed consensual. MF saying her body wouldn't be seen from the door, and talking about employee not seeing her body when Joran had the door opened. Kimberly believes the motive was to rob her. Geraldo talking about the sentencing being up to life with the robbery enhancement. MF saying Joran is a cunning, manipulative, amateur criminal.

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[karma-girl]

We need a smiley that spins so fast the head pops off...that would be my siggy smiley for all the back & forth inconsistencies in this case!

 

[CathyinTexas]

BBM

Most autistic people have an inability to lie, which is not necessarily a bad thing, but is clearly unnatural. They don't even consider lying an option because they assume everyone knows the truth as they know it. And they are definitely NOT egocentric. I think Joran falls under the category of knowing exactly the seriousness of what he's doing, totally psycopathic, and narcissistic to the core!

Based on the interviews I have seen, Joran has no signs of autism. He looks people directly in the eye, has good language skills (!) in several languages, etc. Now he does seem to fit the definitions of psychopath/sociopath , in my opinion.

 

[panthera]

Did they ever search anywhere, or were they always in cover up mode?

Good point, but Tim has been down there a few times, IIRC.

 

[angelwngs]

I'm still praying for a miracle rayer: but wasn't this pond already searched years ago? Or am I thinking of another one? :waitasec:

I thought so to, Panth! :waitasec: (but with my memory.... I could use some confirmation too...)

 

[Kimster]

Bo Deitl saying he's a poker player. He's just playing his game.

Ugh.

:seeya: Panthera! :blowkiss:

 

[i.b.nora]

Just caught up after several pages and I'm confused on the coffee issue. Has there been another video released of JVS leaving the room without coffee and coming back with coffee?

No, no other video.

 

[Kimster]

He ate cake and drank coffee next to Stephany's body?

I didn't know about that! OH THAT IS SO SICK!!!

 

[panthera]

Geraldo: Bo thinks Natalee is probably in the ocean and Joran's just playing games as far as telling authorities where she is. Geraldo asking MF what his first question would be if interrogating Joran. MF says to give him something he can corroborate or we're not going any further.

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[panthera]

He ate cake and drank coffee next to Stephany's body?

I didn't know about that! OH THAT IS SO SICK!!!

That supposedly came out of Joran's own mouth during his "confession" when he was trying to decide what to do with her body. However with the new video, the General Guardia is saying he never left the hotel to go get the coffee. No link right now so MOO!!!

 

[Beatrice]

Jean C. reported yesterday that the coffee styrofoam cups were FULL.

 

[mck16]

No, no other video.

The video shows him coming to the room with two coffees. But, it also shows that he is wearing the same red shirt he had on when he left the hotel the last time. So, I would think she was already dead when he went out for the coffees. He had changed clothes.

So, the reports that he had on his same white shirt are wrong. He did not leave and come back to find her looking at his lap top. So that is a lie.

 

[panthera]

Bo Deitl saying he's a poker player. He's just playing his game.

Ugh.

:seeya: Panthera! :blowkiss:

:seeya: back at you too!!!

 

[Nancy2441]

Geraldo: Bo thinks Natalee is probably in the ocean and Joran's just playing games as far as telling authorities where she is. Geraldo asking MF what his first question would be if interrogating Joran. MF says to give him something he can corroborate or we're not going any further.

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I also liked when Mark Fuhrman said JVDS has a typical wife beater mentality. He's just never been married.

 

[3doglady]

I'm still praying for a miracle rayer: but wasn't this pond already searched years ago? Or am I thinking of another one? :waitasec:

Dave sent someone (Golba?)to search after this witness came forward and nothing was found, but I read that it was one of the places TM was going to search again.

 

[Nana46]

I was just flipping channels trying to see if any more news about this case was on and noticed there are at least 3 shows on about prisons/jails....after seeing those in Peru it sure puts it in perspective....our felons have it nice over here in the states,lol, IMO

 

[Carolina Girl]

The video shows him coming to the room with two coffees. But, it also shows that he is wearing the same red shirt he had on when he left the hotel the last time. So, I would think she was already dead when he went out for the coffees. He had changed clothes.

So, the reports that he had on his same white shirt are wrong. He did not leave and come back to find her looking at his lap top. So that is a lie.

The only video I have seen, shows him coming out of the room with two coffees, looking around, and knocking on the open door. Then closing the door, knocking, looking, and then getting someone to let him in the room. Is there another video?