GUILTY Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #23

[Kamille]

Not sure what to make of all this recent flurry of activity regarding JVDS. In a way I think that he needs any attention he can get from the foreign media just in order to survive. I have to believe that if no one cares or is interested in anything that he has to say or what is happening to him there in Peru then he will be at a greater risk for something to "happen" to him there in prison. It looks like this interview was a long time in the planning so it's not that easy for the foreign media to get access to him it appears. And are there any others even interested? That's the point of him saying provocative things in this interview IMO...get others interested so he can continue to stay in the media spotlight. He was out of it pretty good there for a while before this recent interview and TV show. Seems to me like he's trying to bait the US media by speaking of the extortion and the Holloways.

He speaks kindly of the prison guards, certainly something that helps him in his current situation since they are the only people that he sees and they are in control of his life at the moment, but will that help him in the long term if he is ever released into the general population? It's probably unlikely that he ever will be with his monetary resources and the fact that they have a foreign prisoner section in Castro Castro, so it looks like he's playing the right people at the moment.

Sure seems like he's still pulling the strings. If I were a member of Stephany's family I'd be outraged too.

 

[Kamille]

OK...Will somebody help me with this? To me, it sounds as though the 3 judges' ruling was 2-to-1 IN FAVOR OF JORAN?? How could that be?? Maybe I'm getting lost in translation or just don't understand the way the legal terms are being explained. HELP!! :blushing::waitasec::blushing:

"Judges Rita Zapata Arturo Meza Walde and Carbajal [original Spanish text: 'Rita Meza Walde y Arturo Zapata Carbajal'] of the Third Board Pernales with Prison Inmates in the Court of Lima were in favor of the irrelevance of constitutional requirement, while Malzon Urbina La Torre voted to confirm the decision of first instance declared the constitutional complaint as unfounded.

Judges Meza Carbajal Walde and Zapata [original Spanish text: 'Meza Walde y Zapata Carbajal'] were in favor of impropriety because the defense of citizens appeared before the Dutchman Provincial Prosecutor of Lima 48 criminal charges on the facts that includes the habeas corpus, which is in progress and pending resolution.

In the first instance ruling, the judge of Criminal Court of Lima 20, Wilder declared unfounded habeas corpus filed by Van der Sloot."

http://translate.googleusercontent....&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhhhCbegmcwcGLuhaOvBjFVq2MDWTA

I took it as the vote was 2-1 in favour of keeping the confession in. Two judges believed the confession was obtained legally and one judge felt that Joran's argument had merit and was in favour of throwing out the confession. They need 3 votes in either direction. There will be a fourth judge brought in and if he votes in favour of throwing out the confession, there will be a 2-2 tie. A fifth judge will be brought in to be the deciding factor if that is the case.

MOO

 

[Kamille]

Who is to say that this attorney is correct though? I'm pretty sure that if it ever came to trial in the US, whatever he said about his involvement can be brought in. He did the media interview willingly and unlike all the times he told stories about what he did with Natalee and took it all back, there is corroborating evidence. But just like Stephany's murder it looks like the FBI has the evidence they need without his confessing, what an idiot to send all of those emails and think he would get away with it.

Yeah I don't think the FBI need a "confession" from Joran on the extortion charges, they were pretty familiar with the way he operates and have all the evidence they need without using any of his famous confess/retract media interviews. In fact, it's unlikely that they would even introduce it into evidence because it would just help the defence to muddy the waters of what should be a pretty clear cut case.

MOO

 

[Sanny]

[ame="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/39035477#39035477"]msnbc.com Video Player[/ame]

Today Show Video

Joran van der Sloot --- "I feel guilty" Jailhouse interview

 

[Belinda]

The whole world is a chess board to Joran and he believes he will always come up with checkmate. I sometimes wonder if he is right. I sincerely hope the Peruvian justice system will do right by Stephany's family.

 

[Sanny]

http://drlillianglass.com/body-lang...on-the-back-and-walking-freely-behind-guards/

 

[Kamille]

For those outside the US, the interview is posted at youtube..

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK2FuBX8B4I[/ame]

And why is he doing this interview in English if it is for a Dutch reporter and television program? Well because it was meant to be aired in the US to attract more attention there IMO.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

http://drlillianglassbodylanguagebl...an-uncuffed-joran-to-freely-walk-behind-them/


Karma will be what does JVDS in, if he somehow gets away with two murders. There is still the extortion facing him...so either way, somehow, this evil monster will pay....I very much like the end of Dr. Glass's analysis..Karmic Justice...much like what I've been saying about Karma catching up to him...but the diseases might also get him first...JMHO


Justice for Stephany

 

[suzihawk]

msnbc.com Video Player

Today Show Video

Joran van der Sloot --- "I feel guilty" Jailhouse interview

Thank you, Sanny.

Same ole tired schtick. I gotta admit he's good at it. So good it makes my skin crawl.

I'm interested in how much money changed hands for this interview. John Q is right - he does it for the attention. But also for the money. That's the reason it was also done in English. Maximum exposure - maximum $$.

His lawyers should make sure he keeps his mouth shut. Then again, he does what he wants (needs?) so I'm sure they have no control over him.

Sigh...

 

[FLNY]

For those outside the US, the interview is posted at youtube..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK2FuBX8B4I

And why is he doing this interview in English if it is for a Dutch reporter and television program? Well because it was meant to be aired in the US to attract more attention there IMO.

Somewhere I read that he did not get paid for this interview...but someone sure did...probably his mom.

There's no way he would have done this both in Dutch and in English solely for attention. Money definitely traded hands on this!!! Let's just hope that no network was foolish enough to pay a million bucks just to hear his lies again!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

 

[georger]

Somewhere I read that he did not get paid for this interview...but someone sure did...probably his mom.

There's no way he would have done this both in Dutch and in English solely for attention. Money definitely traded hands on this!!! Let's just hope that no network was foolish enough to pay a million bucks just to hear his lies again!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

John Kelley mentions several times it is "self preservation" that will get
Joran to talk, but we already know this is no assurance of truth - John
Kelley points that out. So, it is pointless if Joran says he feels guilty.
That is tantamount to ebola saying it feels smart? Or a predator
saying it feels hungry?

Joran is like a capsule of plutonium you have to keep buried for a
long-long time to come, and Kelley confirms that!

Self preservation is the key to everything for Joran and for the truth.
I am sure a lot of people are examining that aspect today.

 

[jilly]

http://drlillianglassbodylanguagebl...an-uncuffed-joran-to-freely-walk-behind-them/


Karma will be what does JVDS in, if he somehow gets away with two murders. There is still the extortion facing him...so either way, somehow, this evil monster will pay....I very much like the end of Dr. Glass's analysis..Karmic Justice...much like what I've been saying about Karma catching up to him...but the diseases might also get him first...JMHO


Justice for Stephany

bbm

Did you see this part in the article?

He may not get extradited to the US by Peru to serve his crime for extorting Natalie Holloway’s family because the good old Netherlands will most likely step in and save the day for Joran. They will prevent anything happening to their precious citizen just like we saw in Aruba. .

:furious:

 

[faw720]

That video just makes me sick:sick::sick::sick::sick:. Joran looks like he is on a resort vacation...........a real Mr. Cool, calm, collected. I just don't understand how he can continue to lead such a charmed life.

I do believe karma is the only thing that will ever get him.

 

[suzihawk]

bbm

Did you see this part in the article?

He may not get extradited to the US by Peru to serve his crime for extorting Natalie Holloway’s family because the good old Netherlands will most likely step in and save the day for Joran. They will prevent anything happening to their precious citizen just like we saw in Aruba. .

:furious:

Keep in mind that's Lillian Glass's opinion. She not a lawyer. I don't think he'll slide on that one. At least I hope he doesn't.

 

[annalia]

CNN video

In Session's Jean Casarez questioned the Dutch reporter who interviewed Joran van der Sloot in prison.

http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2010/06/24/casarez.dutch.reporter.vds.insession

 

[jilly]

Keep in mind that's Lillian Glass's opinion. She not a lawyer. I don't think he'll slide on that one. At least I hope he doesn't.

Yeah.....I watched John Kelly after that and I will go with him on it!!

 

[KR2tonenow]

Somewhere I read that he did not get paid for this interview...but someone sure did...probably his mom.

There's no way he would have done this both in Dutch and in English solely for attention. Money definitely traded hands on this!!! Let's just hope that no network was foolish enough to pay a million bucks just to hear his lies again!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I thought I read somewhere that JVDS mother would only deal with the dutch media. There is money changing hands somewhere here, ABC is doing another special Friday night. In this interview JVDS blames the Holloway's for the last 5 years, and his impulsivity, and his sleeping all day and being up all night. Yet, somehow taking full responsibility for the extortion plot. I wonder if this is a way to get JVDS on US soil?

 

[asiabrasil]

From what I've read, it seems that it's not that voiding the confession by itself could get him released, but that if his "constitutional rights" were violated, that could be cause for release and/or having the confession thrown out. I doubt he's going anywhere though.

 

[georger]

bbm

Did you see this part in the article?

He may not get extradited to the US by Peru to serve his crime for extorting Natalie Holloway’s family because the good old Netherlands will most likely step in and save the day for Joran. They will prevent anything happening to their precious citizen just like we saw in Aruba. .

:furious:

:furious: :furious: :dance: :banghead: :furious:

What has this vander Slooot got? The national jewels or something!?

I hope this is wrong . . .

Joran van der Sloot - the National Hero ?

Is NATO watching Dutch Navy movements?

 

[Levi]

Dr. Lillian Glass body language expert and former prosecutor Holly Hughes share their thoughts on the Vandersloot case. Here is a link to listen: - http://tobtr.com/s/1247447