GUILTY Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #24

[suzihawk]

Also from your article, FLNY...

"Joran is like a big kid and he does have some psychological issues but he has been through a lot and at times he was treated like a 'caged animal' which I did not like to see."


Same old song. Poor, poor innocent Joran. He's been through so much all due to the 'disappearance' of Natalee. Never mind he was the last known person to have seen her alive. Never mind that he profitted thousands upon thousands of dollars from his numerous stories full of lies. Never mind his extortion attempt(s). Oh, and it's just a coincidence that second young woman in HIS hotel room turned up brutally murdered, too. He's just a big kid. /s

Yeah, go ahead... put him in general population. I'm sure one of the other low lifes who has nothing to lose would love having the notoriety of taking the punk out. One way or the other, Joran won't be leaving Peru.

 

[FLNY]

PJ completed the first stage of the proceedings against Joran Van der Sloot (according to Peruvian news report earlier today)

http://translate.google.com/transla...rlz=1T4GZAZ_enUS377US377&tbs=qdr:d&prmd=ivnsu

This is such a poor translation that I have no idea what it means :waitasec:, but it seems to be saying that they still haven't decided whether or not to file charges against JVDS!!! WTH!!!!! :maddening:

"The case file will be forwarded to the Prosecutor's Office to determine whether to file or filed criminal charges against the Dutch.

The Judicial Branch concluded the instructional phase of the process followed to Joran van der Sloot for the murder of the young Stephany Flores.

The Fourth Criminal Court of Lima Prison Inmates in taking this action to complete an expansion that was available to take a series of measures within this law enforcement investigation.

The case file will be forwarded to the Prosecutor's Office for an evaluation and to determine whether an extension is requested, or if calls are dropped or filed criminal charges against a Dutch citizen.

To be the last option, the prosecution will move to a Superior Room for undertaking the trial against van der Sloot, who is currently detained at the Castro Castro prison."

:banghead:

 

[Nova]

Time may prove me wrong, but I really don't think Peru will drop charges against JVDS. What's going on now seems to be their version of what a grand jury or a probable cause hearing would do in the United States: sort out the evidence and determine what specific charge will apply.

 

[FLNY]

Here's a more understandable US report on the latest JVDS news:

"It's decision time for the Peruvian legal system...whether Joran van der Sloot will be formally charged with murder. Reports in both Dutch and Peruvian media say the government has completed its investigation in the case. The public prosecutor must now decide whether to proceed with the case."

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localn...t-murder/OzCjqbkhhkSMEyKFYrHk2Q.cspx?rss=1659


Things sure do move slowly down there!!! MOO

 

[browneyes]

I can't even entertain the thought that they won't charge him! That would be a travesty! :banghead:

 

[panthera]

Here's a more understandable US report on the latest JVDS news:

"It's decision time for the Peruvian legal system...whether Joran van der Sloot will be formally charged with murder. Reports in both Dutch and Peruvian media say the government has completed its investigation in the case. The public prosecutor must now decide whether to proceed with the case."

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localn...t-murder/OzCjqbkhhkSMEyKFYrHk2Q.cspx?rss=1659


Things sure do move slowly down there!!! MOO

They have a decision to make? Is there any possibility they won't charge him? :behindbar

 

[FLNY]

"The Peruvian lawyer of Dutch murder suspect Joran van der Sloot has told populist newspaper De Telegraaf that the Public Prosecutors’ Office in the capital Lima is seeking a 30-year jail sentence against his client. The authorities have concluded their investigation into Van der Sloot’s alleged role in the death of Stephany Flores, the daughter of a well-known businessman.

In Peru the maximum penalty for murder is 20 years, but the Public Prosecutors’ Office says a more severe sentence is warranted because of the excessively cruel nature of the crime."

http://www.expatica.com/nl/news/dut...prison-term-against-van-der-sloot_132839.html

Wow...finally Peru is moving in the right direction!! Can't they charge even more time if they can prove robbery was also part of the crime?

 

[FLNY]

Here's the answer to my question:

"The public prosecution department in Lima has told Van der Sloot's lawyer he will press for 30 years, the Telegraaf reports.

The maximum sentence for murder in Peru is 20 years, but this can be increased for particularly savage crimes. Van der Sloot is also accused of stealing the young woman´s money, laptop and car, allowing prosecutors to aim for 30 years."

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/02/joran_van_der_sloot_faces_30_y.php

 

[Niner]

"The Peruvian lawyer of Dutch murder suspect Joran van der Sloot has told populist newspaper De Telegraaf that the Public Prosecutors’ Office in the capital Lima is seeking a 30-year jail sentence against his client. The authorities have concluded their investigation into Van der Sloot’s alleged role in the death of Stephany Flores, the daughter of a well-known businessman.

In Peru the maximum penalty for murder is 20 years, but the Public Prosecutors’ Office says a more severe sentence is warranted because of the excessively cruel nature of the crime."

http://www.expatica.com/nl/news/dut...prison-term-against-van-der-sloot_132839.html

Wow...finally Peru is moving in the right direction!! Can't they charge even more time if they can prove robbery was also part of the crime?

re bold above...

:woohoo:

 

[FLNY]

"The lawyer for Joran van der Sloot said [on] the program 'Domingo Al Dia' that his client killed the girl Stephany Flores [as the] product of a violent emotion, not intentionally. Therefore asked not to be tried for murder and prevent a sentence of 25 years in prison....To be tried in the form of homicide violent emotion, Van der Sloot would receive only three to five years in prison."

http://translate.google.com/transla...-sloot-pide-que-se-le-juzgue-emocion-violenta

Well, in mho, the only good news out of this is that they are now, at least, admitting that JVS did in fact commit the murder. Let's hope that the prosecutors can make the theft angle work to get him the full 30 years...should be life if you ask me!!

 

[panthera]

"The lawyer for Joran van der Sloot said [on] the program 'Domingo Al Dia' that his client killed the girl Stephany Flores [as the] product of a violent emotion, not intentionally. Therefore asked not to be tried for murder and prevent a sentence of 25 years in prison....To be tried in the form of homicide violent emotion, Van der Sloot would receive only three to five years in prison."

http://translate.google.com/transla...-sloot-pide-que-se-le-juzgue-emocion-violenta

Well, in mho, the only good news out of this is that they are now, at least, admitting that JVS did in fact commit the murder. Let's hope that the prosecutors can make the theft angle work to get him the full 30 years...should be life if you ask me!!

I'm sure the prosecutors will give it their best try. MOO

 

[Niner]

Just got a Google Alert!

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localn...-crime-of-passion/15DPrr_wtUSy1rQDkhbCBw.cspx

hope that works!!

snipped from article:

Peruvian prosecutors say Joran van der Sloot killed Stephany Flores in cold blood and want an extra long sentence. The Dutchman's lawyer says it was a spontaneous, emotional act and his client should face no more than three to five years.

Van der Sloot's Peruvian lawyer, Max Altez, told the television program "Domingo al Dia" that the death was the result of a violent argument, not intentional. Altez says he's asking his client face a 3-5 year sentence, not the 30 years prosecutors are asking for.

Edward Alvarez,an attorney for the Flores family, told El Commercio that the family rejects the defense claims and is backing the prosecution. No trial date has been set yet and there's still plenty of legal wrangling unresolved, including whose responsibility is it to provide a Dutch-Spanish translator. The Dutch embassy has said it's not their job.


3 to 5 years?? are they crazy?? :loser:

 

[FLNY]

"Joran van der Sloot's lawyer has told RadarOnline.com that translators are "too scared" to get involved with his controversial client and that the accused killer should be released if he is not questioned again with a qualified translator.

The lawyer -- who says he has received death threats -- believes that any confession van der Sloot previously made was illegal and that if he is not formally questioned again with a proper translator within 18 months of being in jail, then he should automatically be released."

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...der-sloots-fate-hands-translators-says-lawyer

Looks like this guy is trying every angle...one minute he admits that JVS is guilty...crime of passion. The next he says the confession is illegal. I don't see how he can argue it both ways!!!! :banghead:

 

[21merc7]

"Joran van der Sloot, the Dutchman long suspected in the disappearance of U.S. teen Natalee Holloway, is offering to plead guilty in the slaying of a Peruvian woman in exchange for a reduced sentence, according to The Associated Press."

more at link:

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/07/r...ying-fo/?icid=maing|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk2|48888

 

[FLNY]

"Joran van der Sloot plans to plead guilty in the murder of Stephany Flores, the young Peruvian woman he met gambling. But the man ... will argue temporary insanity in a bid to significantly shorten his sentence, his defense lawyer said Monday.

The Dutchman will use a 'violent emotion' defense in the slaying of Flores, attorney Maximo Altez told The Associated Press. ...

The 'violent emotion' plea is typically used in Peru for crimes of passion where a spouse, for example, is surprised in the act of adultery.

If it were to be accepted by a trial judge, van der Sloot would be sentenced to 3 to 5 years, and Altez said his client could be freed in 20 months.

The lawyer for the victim's family called the proposed plea absurd, saying that given all the factors of the case, Van der Sloot deserved to spend a minimum of 25 years in prison.

'The manner in which the suspect killed Stephany evidenced disproportionate violence,' attorney Edward Alvarez said."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20040306-504083.html

Do I detect signs of desperation from JVDS??? Hopefully, this tactic will never fly in the Peruvian courts....one can only hope!!!

 

[panthera]

"Joran van der Sloot plans to plead guilty in the murder of Stephany Flores, the young Peruvian woman he met gambling. But the man ... will argue temporary insanity in a bid to significantly shorten his sentence, his defense lawyer said Monday.

The Dutchman will use a 'violent emotion' defense in the slaying of Flores, attorney Maximo Altez told The Associated Press. ...

The 'violent emotion' plea is typically used in Peru for crimes of passion where a spouse, for example, is surprised in the act of adultery.

If it were to be accepted by a trial judge, van der Sloot would be sentenced to 3 to 5 years, and Altez said his client could be freed in 20 months.

The lawyer for the victim's family called the proposed plea absurd, saying that given all the factors of the case, Van der Sloot deserved to spend a minimum of 25 years in prison.

'The manner in which the suspect killed Stephany evidenced disproportionate violence,' attorney Edward Alvarez said."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20040306-504083.html

Do I detect signs of desperation from JVDS??? Hopefully, this tactic will never fly in the Peruvian courts....one can only hope!!!

He knows he can't try to claim innocence so he's trying to mitigate Stephany's death as much as possible. Not much of a surprise, imo, since this is Joran Van Der Sloot afterall. :banghead: MOO

 

[Nova]

He knows he can't try to claim innocence so he's trying to mitigate Stephany's death as much as possible. Not much of a surprise, imo, since this is Joran Van Der Sloot afterall. :banghead: MOO

Reminds me of the old lawyer's saying: "When the facts aren't in your favor, argue the law. When the law isn't in your favor, argue the facts."

Here, the facts are not in JVDS' favor, so his attorney will attempt to expand the meaning of "severe emotional distress" under Peruvian law so as to get his client as brief a sentence as possible.

 

[panthera]

Reminds me of the old lawyer's saying: "When the facts aren't in your favor, argue the law. When the law isn't in your favor, argue the facts."

Here, the facts are not in JVDS' favor, so his attorney will attempt to expand the meaning of "severe emotional distress" under Peruvian law so as to get his client as brief a sentence as possible.

Oh yes, I've heard that saying as well, and it is very appropriate in this case. Joran can't get out of this crime, so the only alternative is to minimize his culpability. I'm actually surprised he isn't claiming self-defense. I pray the judges can see through it. MOO

 

[Kamille]

So he admitted that he got enraged by the simple act of someone looking at his personal information on his computer. Information that millions of people were already quite aware of. Enraged enough to murder someone in cold blood. Someone who he also admitted in his confession that he wanted thrown out, was trying to get away.

And this is supposed to be acceptable to a defence of "temporary" insanity or "severe emotional distress"? So in Joran's mind, if you let someone go on your computer to do one thing, and they see information on there regarding your personal business, it's bound to make you murder them? And this shouldn't be considered murder but a crime of passion?

Remind me not to use anyone else's computer. Even if they give me permission and sign me in with their password.

Unbelievable. :maddening:

 

[annalia]

It is just unbelievable and ITA that it is an act of desperation. This doesn't mean that the defense motion to plead temporary insanity will work though does it? Just look at all of the different motions Joran's defense has come up with. I hope it is rejected and he is made to stand trial and convicted.
Even if he is given a lesser sentence he has his Alabama trial all ready and waiting for him.