Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #8

[RR0004]

I keep reading that he went to Columbia on the 13th and onto Peru the 14th.

Perhaps he was flying back & forth but I can't figure it out yet either.

So then he wasn't in Columbia when the women went missing. See how nuts this reporting is?

 

[SoCalSleuth]

So the karate chop would have been where...front/back?

I don't know, the article only said he told them when she tried to leave he gave her a karate chop to the neck and that he held his hands out to show the position of his hand when he did it. My guess is that it would have been to the back--it's hard to do it to the front of the neck (if it's even true).

 

[Beyond Belief]

If her head had been banged against something in that room there would be skin, blood evidence on it.

 

[legalmania]

I keep reading that he went to Columbia on the 13th and onto Peru the 14th.

Perhaps he was flying back & forth but I can't figure it out yet either.

:woohoo:

I have every confidence that us sleuthers will figure it out. As soon as they release information or someone does some research (hint hint) we will have all the facts.

 

[lorann]

When Joran left Aruba on May 10th, with the 15,000 dollars in extortion money, he flew to Columbia for 2 days prior to Peru. Officials in Colombia are so convinced he is involved in the disappearance of these 2 young woman, they have boarded a plane to Peru to question Van der Sloot.

http://stephww.wordpress.com/

 

[Nancy2441]

Was trying to understand Joran's "confession" - of course, he says Stephany hit him first, and invaded his personal computer -
After reading the article from the link in post #59 - it now becomes clear -
"
Pero si es acusado de homicidio por reacción violenta, la pena podría ser menor a cinco años . But if you are charged with manslaughter for backlash, the sentence could be below five years."

Joran's "confession" fits the manslaughter for backlash sentence in Peru - which "could be below five years."

Personally, I believe Joran is incapable of telling the truth.

He murdered this sweet Stephany and we will never know the truth about it.

Peru has handled this case well, so far. Keep it up, Peru.

Shame on Aruba and his real life, living "Godfather" who made sure, along with his father, that Joran was never prosecuted in Aruba. IDK his name, but we should find it - and he should have to answer as to why Joran was never charge in NH's disappearance.
Evidently, he was the "powers that be" at that time.
If "Godfather" and Aruba had done their part 5 years ago - we would not be here today and Stephany would still be with us.

Aruban Chief of Police Jan van der Straaten is Joran van der Sloot’s godfather.

 

[Patty G]

CNN Report from around 4:30 PM EDT
http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/news/watch/v20164333p7zWTNQQ#

 

[froginTtown]

I google the Bubali pond awhile back ago..Its a bird sanctuary that is located directly next to a sewage treatment plant...The water runs into the Bubali pond....I want to go back and see when in became a bird sanctuary...I hope its not soon after NH disappeared....

 

[steadychick]

"he had MARIJUANA in his system when he attacked her"

Marijuana does not turn a person into a crazed karate chop murdering lunatic.

Not to mention it really proves nothing -- marijuana can stay in your system and be detected by test for 2-3 weeks after use.

 

[i.b.nora]

I think the Peruvian Police should host a big dinner, all you can eat, all you can drink dinner at say The Atlantic City Casino tonight for all the journalists and photographers covering the case. And, while they are doing that, the police should take Joran to Hotel TAC and recreate the crime.

 

[froginTtown]

I don't know, the article only said he told them when she tried to leave he gave her a karate chop to the neck and that he held his hands out to show the position of his hand when he did it. My guess is that it would have been to the back--it's hard to do it to the front of the neck (if it's even true).

Being that he admits that the final blow was as she was trying to leave/escape...Wouldn't that be kidnapping..??:waitasec:

 

[RR0004]

Per Mark Fuhrman (no link because I heard it), the ME said the trauma to the back of the head could not result from a fall or accident--it was caused by a "driving force" to the back of the head.

...but would he have known that? We haven't seen anything that pinpoints how the neck broke...for instance...was it as a result of the head being hit in such a way and with such force it caused the neck to snap? Or was the chop to the side of the neck and it broke along those lines?

 

[RR0004]

I don't know, the article only said he told them when she tried to leave he gave her a karate chop to the neck and that he held his hands out to show the position of his hand when he did it. My guess is that it would have been to the back--it's hard to do it to the front of the neck (if it's even true).

I'm thinking the later...it's not true.

 

[RR0004]

Being that he admits that the final blow was as she was trying to leave/escape...Wouldn't that be kidnapping..??:waitasec:

Holding someone against their will

 

[RR0004]

I think the Peruvian Police should host a big dinner, all you can eat, all you can drink dinner at say The Atlantic City Casino tonight for all the journalists and photographers covering the case. And, while they are doing that, the police should take Joran to Hotel TAC and recreate the crime.

I agree!!!!

 

[SoCalSleuth]

Before the Columbian connection was reported today, all of the news outlets were reporting that upon receipt of the money on May 10th, Joran left Aruba for Peru via Columbia.

 

[JBean]

Marijuana doesn't make you falsely confess to crimes as was alleged in the Netherlands. Nor does it make you kill someone. I understand from JBean that it does cause psycotic breaks in some individuals, however, we saw months and months of videotapes of Joran smoking pot, and not one psychotic break was reported.

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Not saying this is the case AT ALL. Just making an observation.

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[SoCalSleuth]

Being that he admits that the final blow was as she was trying to leave/escape...Wouldn't that be kidnapping..??:waitasec:

I don't know if it's kidnapping in Peru, but it would seem to me that it would at least negate any manslaughter charges. We need a Peruvian criminal attorney on this forum!

 

[SoCalSleuth]

snipped for the part that may have been missed

I knew that JBean, didn't mean to imply otherwise!

 

[dr dona]

bruising occurs premortem ie before the heart stops beating. This is why JVS story of giving her a karate chop doesn't fit what information we were given about the extent of Stephany's injuries. Her injuries sound more consistent with a brutal beating.. So I think his confession is a piece of BS. Blame the victim not yourself. Minimize your culpabilty in the crime. This case is murder plain and simple!!!!!