GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #112

[LAborn]

He's not sentenced until July 23rd. We already know what the plea agreement is--life without possibility of parole, can't appeal. Some may disagree, but if I were a family member I would be glad to be done with the legal aspects of this. Did I miss anything?

 

[LAborn]

Yes of course but I was trying to get my mind around your statement, "I thought defense was for the wrongfully accused..." How would that work, in your view?

I come into your office as an attorney, you evaluate my case, and you say, "Sorry I can't represent you because I think you are guilty?"

Is that how you think defense lawyers should work?

It depends what a person's ethics are. If I were a defense attorney there would definitely be people I wouldn't represent. Sorry, I'm an idealist. I think people who commit crimes should take responsibility and accept the punishment.

 

[arielilane]

The Bryan Kohberger judge said today: “Even if a defendant waives the right to appeal, it doesn't mean they don't have the right to appeal."I spoke to the former Idaho Attorney General to figure out exactly what that means.

Watch:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945947080989516252

 

[seasideForest]

Link to today's hearing scheduled for 10:30 a.m. (local time) Thursday, July 17:

I was surprised BK wasn't in an orange jumpsuit!
I understood that after the plea deal he'd always be in orange. Obviously wrongly.

MOO

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945892429116153861

 

[gremlin444]

I was surprised BK wasn't in an orange jumpsuit!
I understood that after the plea deal he'd always be in orange. Obviously wrongly.

MOO

He's in a dark red jail issued sweatshirt over his jail attire.

He's not in civilian clothes.

On the back, just like on the jumpsuit, it should say in big block letters "ADA COUNTY JAIL."

 

[Missyrocks5]

The Bryan Kohberger judge said today: “Even if a defendant waives the right to appeal, it doesn't mean they don't have the right to appeal."I spoke to the former Idaho Attorney General to figure out exactly what that means.

Watch:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945947080989516252

So the former Idaho Attorney General explained it that he cannot imagine that it would not be summarily dismissed if he tried that. Technically, he could try, but given all the circumstances, and given how well the record was made here with the judge in the questioning, etc., he does not think that Idaho Appellate court would stand for that foolery.

 

[arielilane]

On July 2, 2025, theres discussion about BK's right to appeal.

Matt Murphy is well worth the listen - jmo


time mark: 10:00

So, you're telling me, Matt, just to back to your main point,
there actually is a chance under this deal that he
could see the light of day again.

I think there's a there's a there's a good
chance he'll get a parole hearing
whether hopefully he's never given an
opportunity and and that the parole
boards in Idaho remain steady, you know,
but California, we've seen a huge shift
to the left.
Um and to to people getting
out and the legislator has the
legislator legislature has passed
multiple laws that make it easier and
easier for lifers to get out.


10:36 So, who knows what's going to happen in Idaho,
but that's the thing. LWAP is not his
sentence. He will get he he will have a
mandatory minimum time, I believe, based
on this math of 50, and it might even be
less than that if burglary is less. He’s
agreeing to the 10. But, you know, as I'm writing down the
math, and my math is usually wrong, but,
um, that's this is going to be, I
believe, a 50-year to life sentence
where he will do a mandatory minimum um,
where he will do a mandatory minimum um,
of of 50 less the bur potentially, but
he's going to be eligible for parole
hearing based on what I heard today in
court.

Did Kohberger Take a Guilty Plea to SAVE His Parents From Testifying? With Murphy, Blum, Holloway​

Another video, worth a listen.

Prosecution DROPS the Ball and Allows Bryan Kohberger to Plead Guilty, w/ Matt Murphy & Howard Blum​

 

[gremlin444]

He's in a dark red jail issued sweatshirt over his orange jail attire.

He's not in civilian clothes.

On the back, just like on the jumpsuit, it should say in big white block letters "ADA COUNTY JAIL."

And if you really curious as to Ada County jail's color system, here it is (they do vary by state):

https://www.in.gov/idoc/indianacorrectionalindustries/files/County-Jail-Jumpsuit-Multi-Color-flyer-11.21.pdf

RED - All segregation offenders (including Disciplinary and Administrative Segregation and Protective Custody)
ORANGE - All offenders being transported. (Additionally, all offenders housed at the Reception Diagnostic Center and those transported by this facility will wear orange jumpsuits. Community Re-Entry Centers will not be required to transport offenders in the orange jumpsuits.) AKA--what you will see on him in court when he is in person.

green and yellow are also described at the link

What color he'll be in when he goes to prison might be different. Usually prisoners wear one color as they go through a few weeks of diagnostic at the intake center. Then depending on what prison and what category he is sorted into, he'll likely have a different color.

 

[MTW2011]

He's not sentenced until July 23rd. We already know what the plea agreement is--life without possibility of parole, can't appeal. Some may disagree, but if I were a family member I would be glad to be done with the legal aspects of this. Did I miss anything?

I hope the families are able to be done with the legal aspects of this, but there are two minor details that
Leave a few things still in the air IMOO. I’m personally unsure of their worth (independently)

-he can still appeal, the Judge noted that today (even though the plea says he waives appeals)
-he can still attempt to withdraw his plea (though if he did that would likely get nowhere)
JMOO.

 

[MassGuy]

PRESS RELEASE

City of Moscow to Establish Website for Homicide Investigation Documents​

July 17, 2025 (Moscow, Idaho) – Due to the significant public and media interest in the Kohberger investigation, the City of Moscow will be making some of the investigation reports that have not been sealed by the Court available to the public and media at no cost to enhance access to public information and to reduce the burden on the City’s limited staff when the City is legally able to release these records. Until sentencing is completed, all investigatory records for this case remain protected from release pursuant to Idaho Code §§ 74-105(1), 74-124(1)(a), (b) and 74-124(3). Any public record requests for investigative records that are received by the City before the sentencing has been concluded will be denied.
The volume of investigative records is substantial, and all records must be reviewed to determine if they are exempt or contain exempt and protected personal information that must be redacted pursuant to the Idaho Public Records Act, or are subject to judicial seal, before release. The City will establish a website where investigative reports produced by the Moscow Police Department (MPD) will be posted once the City is legally permitted to begin publicly releasing records. At that point in time, a separate press release will be issued providing the web address and notification to the public that the webpage is available for access.
Investigative reports and other records created by other law enforcement agencies and entities, such as the Idaho State Police, Latah County Sheriff’s Office, Latah County Prosecutor’s Office, Pennsylvania State Police, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Pullman Police Department, University of Idaho and Washington State University are the property of those agencies and entities as the custodian of those records. Any request for those records should be directed to those entities.

 

[Gemmie]

He's in a dark red jail issued sweatshirt over his jail attire.

He's not in civilian clothes.

On the back, just like on the jumpsuit, it should say in big block letters "ADA COUNTY JAIL."

It's likely what this man is wearing.

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adacounty.id.gov

 

[angelainwi]

PRESS RELEASE

City of Moscow to Establish Website for Homicide Investigation Documents​

July 17, 2025 (Moscow, Idaho) – Due to the significant public and media interest in the Kohberger investigation, the City of Moscow will be making some of the investigation reports that have not been sealed by the Court available to the public and media at no cost to enhance access to public information and to reduce the burden on the City’s limited staff when the City is legally able to release these records. Until sentencing is completed, all investigatory records for this case remain protected from release pursuant to Idaho Code §§ 74-105(1), 74-124(1)(a), (b) and 74-124(3). Any public record requests for investigative records that are received by the City before the sentencing has been concluded will be denied.
The volume of investigative records is substantial, and all records must be reviewed to determine if they are exempt or contain exempt and protected personal information that must be redacted pursuant to the Idaho Public Records Act, or are subject to judicial seal, before release. The City will establish a website where investigative reports produced by the Moscow Police Department (MPD) will be posted once the City is legally permitted to begin publicly releasing records. At that point in time, a separate press release will be issued providing the web address and notification to the public that the webpage is available for access.
Investigative reports and other records created by other law enforcement agencies and entities, such as the Idaho State Police, Latah County Sheriff’s Office, Latah County Prosecutor’s Office, Pennsylvania State Police, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Pullman Police Department, University of Idaho and Washington State University are the property of those agencies and entities as the custodian of those records. Any request for those records should be directed to those entities.

Very nice, do you have a link for this?

 

[LAborn]

On July 2, 2025, theres discussion about BK's right to appeal.

Matt Murphy is well worth the listen - jmo


time mark: 10:00

So, you're telling me, Matt, just to back to your main point,
there actually is a chance under this deal that he
could see the light of day again.

I think there's a there's a there's a good
chance he'll get a parole hearing
whether hopefully he's never given an
opportunity and and that the parole
boards in Idaho remain steady, you know,
but California, we've seen a huge shift
to the left.
Um and to to people getting
out and the legislator has the
legislator legislature has passed
multiple laws that make it easier and
easier for lifers to get out.


10:36 So, who knows what's going to happen in Idaho,
but that's the thing. LWAP is not his
sentence. He will get he he will have a
mandatory minimum time, I believe, based
on this math of 50, and it might even be
less than that if burglary is less. He’s
agreeing to the 10. But, you know, as I'm writing down the
math, and my math is usually wrong, but,
um, that's this is going to be, I
believe, a 50-year to life sentence
where he will do a mandatory minimum um,
where he will do a mandatory minimum um,
of of 50 less the bur potentially, but
he's going to be eligible for parole
hearing based on what I heard today in
court.

Did Kohberger Take a Guilty Plea to SAVE His Parents From Testifying? With Murphy, Blum, Holloway​

Another video, worth a listen.

Prosecution DROPS the Ball and Allows Bryan Kohberger to Plead Guilty, w/ Matt Murphy & Howard Blum​

I think others have stated what the judge conveyed today. Anyone can "try" but the court isn't obligated to entertain it. He can try for an appeal, but he'll be shut down. The sentence states (will state on July 23rd) "no appeal". The court has no reason to entertain or reverse its decision. At least that's how I understand it.

 

[mickey2942]

I am actually amazed that BK didn't take the "Alford Plea" option, which would have been available to him. He wouldn't have had to plead "guilty" at all, just agree the government had enough evidence against him. With the death penalty, it was definitely an option for him.

Alford plea - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[MassGuy]

I am actually amazed that BK didn't take the "Alford Plea" option, which would have been available to him. He wouldn't have had to plead "guilty" at all, just agree the government had enough evidence against him. With the death penalty, it was definitely an option for him.

Alford plea - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There was zero chance the state was offering him that option. He's lucky they didn't force him to sit down and walk them through these crimes before they offered the deal.

 

[SteveP]

I hope the families are able to be done with the legal aspects of this, but there are two minor details that
Leave a few things still in the air IMOO. I’m personally unsure of their worth (independently)

-he can still appeal, the Judge noted that today (even though the plea says he waives appeals)
-he can still attempt to withdraw his plea (though if he did that would likely get nowhere)
JMOO.

If he were to choose to withdraw his guilty plea, and surely he is not that stupid, then I trust the state would quickly choose to reinstate the death penalty, and would charge full steam ahead to trial, and to ridding society of this monster, permanently. JMO

 

[PunishThenForgive]

Very nice, do you have a link for this?

Not the OP, but here’s the link to the press release:

City of Moscow to Establish Website for Homicide Investigation Documents

And here is the City of Moscow Home Page, which should eventually contain a link to the webpage the city has promised to create:

Moscow, ID | Official Website

www.ci.moscow.id.us

ETA: The Press Release itself contains a link to the City of Moscow Home Page (bottom right, listed as “Website” for the City of Moscow)

 

[Chloegirl]

I am actually amazed that BK didn't take the "Alford Plea" option, which would have been available to him. He wouldn't have had to plead "guilty" at all, just agree the government had enough evidence against him. With the death penalty, it was definitely an option for him.

Alford plea - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I think he is on psychiatric meds and he is finally thinking straight for the first time in years. That does not mean that he has remorse. And the state may not have offered that option. JMOO

 

[MTW2011]

If he were to choose to withdraw his guilty plea, and surely he is not that stupid, then I trust the state would quickly choose to reinstate the death penalty, and would charge full steam ahead to trial, and to ridding society of this monster, permanently. JMO

Maybe. But IMO Thompson has a history of removing the death penalty and using it for leverage, like in:

John Lee - convicted of murder 3x for killing his mother, landlord, and then a fast food manager. Thompson removed the DP as part of a plea agreement. Lee appealed his convictions.

Matthew & James Wells, along with their nephew Thomas Riggins, convicted of killing U of I football player Eric McMillan; Thompson removed the death penalty saying it lacked the aggravating circumstances. Eric answered a knock at his door and was met with gunshots.

David Pettit convicted of killing his 15-week old infant, Thompson took the death penalty off the table in that case citing similar “legal” considerations as he did in the McMillan case.

Those are just a few I found when digging through records. I don’t know if Thompson is personally for or against the DP, only that IMOO he’s seemed to use it only as leverage in other homicide cases.