GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #112

[SteveP]

PunishThenForgive quotes the AT footnote in her opposition to dissemination motion:

And then goes on to say:

Given how much lack of respect, public criticism, that Moscow PD endured from not only some victims' families but also national media and social media, I'd say they earned the right to witness that confession. Six weeks from the murders to arrest in a stranger murder that spanned three states. And they knew pretty much who did the crime before that.

And while we're on the subject of Moscow PD, the Ward/Patterson book is really illuminating on how unfair it is to both pile on a police department for not sharing information while also piling on for not solving the crime fast enough and talking about or printing everything they hear from some source. Ward and Patterson did this by juxtaposition--who was talking to the media and as part of the media? Who was saying the PD was failing to solve it? What were people saying directly to the police chief, who even had some friends piling on? The whole business where Kaylee's sister thinks she's investigating is very poignant and she certainly found a lot about Kaylee's movements on that last day and who was messaging her or liking Instagram posts. But there's no way to solve a stranger homicide without forensics. All the sleuthing in the world wouldn't have found BK. It was the trail he left behind-- DNA, his vehicle, his phone, his Amazon account that revealed him as the killer. And because after the arrest all eyes were on BK, law enforcement, including Moscow PD, the Idaho State Police, the FBI, and the PA State Police did a great job, with some help from WSU and Pullman PD once BK was identified.

And don't get me started on how prosecutor Bill Thompson has been vilified first for supposedly not fighting back verbally against AT (evidently people don't read the filings, where the fighting really happens). What he did was all behind the scenes, building a case so strong that the defense folded like a house of cards instead of going to trial. And in taking the plea deal, he not only mitigated any risk that BK could be found not guilty, he saved those kids from having to relive everything in court. He's a true hero.

AT really represents for me that kind of scorn that this police department never deserved. The Ward/Patterson book showed me how truly professional that police department is for one in a small town.

Perfectly stated! I could not agree more.

 

[PunishThenForgive]

Once he has made his "plea" is it true he can pull it back?

Other than that what would be the point of AT not wanting it released today? And it can't be fear for his safety...

Josh Ritter of Courtroom Confidential doesn’t think BK will withdraw his guilty plea. He says BK can do so before sentencing only for “just cause or excusable neglect, meaning he was coerced into it.”

You can actually read Anne Taylor's full "Opposition to Motion to Vacate Nondissimination Order" by viewing the video I linked in my previous post. Just stop the video and zoom in to enlarge the text.

 

[Megnut]

Once he has made his "plea" is it true he can pull it back?

Other than that what would be the point of AT not wanting it released today? And it can't be fear for his safety...

So she can be on vacation somewhere when the ugly details come out.

She was the one who fought for public hearings during which she vomited up some gross misrepresentation. And she knew the relevant evidence when she did so, banked on the State holding their case for trial, underestimating Judge Hippler's command of the case, the courtroom and professional ethics.

It cannot be a good day to be Hippchecked in open court, drawing a penalty reminder--

You're an Officer of the Court...

That is a stern warning. IMO the same as, I see what you're about to do and strongly suggest you don't.

Smartly she didn't, but there's no way that didn't sting. Not a good performance review.

If BK is among the most hated men in America right now, the release of evidence isn't going to improve that.

The details are sure to make us ill. First ill, then angry, then ill and angry, and profoundly sad.

Heinous, depraved, indifferent...

It's that last word that might be most unsettling of all. Indifferent. He brutally murdered four young people, in the spring of their lives, in the safety of their bedrooms, to which he admitted without so much as a stutter. No remorse, no regret, no care, just indifferent. Unabashedly indifferent.

It's a kind of cold that I suspect can drop the temperature in a room.

The presence of evil.

JMO

 

[browneyes]

I read the new James Patterson book yesterday. I learned nothing new. Very disappointed.

 

[CLGM]

Reminder:

The hearing for the Motion to Vacate Nondissemination Order takes place today, Thursday, August 17, 2025 at 10:30 am Mountain Time via Zoom.

View attachment 602158

Source: Case Summary

According to this page, the Description/Defendant is "Confidential" so we may not be able to watch the hearing:

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If the hearing is streamed, then we should be able to use this link: Watch Hearings Live

As @MassGuy said yesterday, the State, "upon further reflection," withdrew its request for the Nondissimination Order to remain in effect through sentencing. However, Bill Thompson adds:


BBM

Source: States Response to Coalition of Media Organizations Motion to be Heard Motion to Vacate Order.

The Defense, on the other hand, strongly opposes the media's motion to vacate the Nondissimination Order. According to the Case Summary (see screenshot above), Anne Taylor's "Opposition to Motion to Vacate Nondissimination Order" is locked and its link does not appear on the Idaho Cases of Interest page, State of Idaho v. Bryan C. Kohberger.

Nonetheless, Angenette Levy somehow got a hold of Anne Taylor's Opposition. She shows and discusses it during this episode of her video podcast:

New: Bryan Kohberger Faces Death Threats As Chilling Details Revealed
(Start at 13:37 to see discussion of Anne Taylor's Opposition)

Here are the sections of AT's Opposition:

1. The language of the Revised Amended Nondissimination Order issued on June 23, 2023, specifically ran through sentencing
2. The ongoing publicity in the case threatens Mr. Kohberger's safety
3. The Court has issued a records hold order, and a special inquiry is ongoing

Referencing the State's Response quoted above, Anne Taylor makes the following dig in Section 3 of her Opposition:



And here is AT's (sarcastic) footnote in the same section:


BBM

Imagine that: Law enforcement officers, who worked so hard and were surely traumatized by investigating the heinous murder of four university students, actually wanted to witness the accused admitting what he did.

I suppose Dylan Mortensen, at least, was relieved so many police officers were in attendance with BK only feet away from her.

IMO

Dylan was at that hearing?

 

[gremlin444]

And here is AT's (sarcastic) footnote in the same section:

Sorry, for some reason the quote is failing to copy in my reply, so I'll just copy it here:

From the language, who is "promising" is vague. Does this mean the attorneys, staff members of the prosecutor's office, and/or all of the 150 law enforcement officers involved in the investigation? On July 2, 2025, an entire row in the courtroom galley was occupied by law enforcement who were watching the proceedings. Will a third of the courtroom now be allotted to law enforcement, free to provide media interviews as they enter and exit the courthouse?

BBM

Imagine that: Law enforcement officers, who worked so hard and were surely traumatized by investigating the heinous murder of four university students, actually wanted to witness the accused admitting what he did.

I suppose Dylan Mortensen, at least, was relieved so many police officers were in attendance with BK only feet away from her.

IMO

So....law enforcement "free to provide media interviews as they enter and exit the courthouse." Really, Anne?

Funny how out of that entire row of LE who were there for the plea hearing, not a one of them was interviewed by anyone as they entered or exited that I've been able to find.

 

[arielilane]

For those interested - started streaming 20+ minutes ago.

@cathyrusson


LIVE NOW: Bryan Kohberger Media Order Hearing — ID v. Bryan Kohberger

https://youtube.com/live/7w8BQCZQKvo?si=7_nPMVtsendzCsbD via @YouTube

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945886319273734284

 

[arielilane]

The defense attorney who dumped the #deathpenalty and possible firing squad execution for #BryanKohberger in #Idaho4 plea deal is a mother of four devoted to upholding constitutional rights. After 27 years as a lawyer, she'd developed a winning formula.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945856556937208021

 

[arielilane]

@BrianEntin


Judge has ended the gag order in the Bryan Kohberger case.


12:47 PM · Jul 17, 2025

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945888042394214781

 

[Warwick7]

Gag order is lifted!

 

[Warwick7]

@BrianEntin


Judge has ended the gag order in the Bryan Kohberger case.


12:47 PM · Jul 17, 2025

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945888042394214781

Yes!!!!!!!!!

 

[pittsburghgirl]

I read the new James Patterson book yesterday. I learned nothing new. Very disappointed.

I learned a lot about the movement of the police investigation. I learned a lot about BK's earlier life. And it reminded me that while he may have gotten off heroin, that stopping using the drugs doesn't stop the disordered thinking of addicts--and also the behavior he learned at that stage, like burglary.

I also learned that while the female victims have been long discusses as being sorority members, it appears that they had outgrown some of their need for the larger group but had strong personal friendships with individuals.

 

[al66pine]

"If the hearing is streamed, then we should be able to use this link:
Watch Hearings Live."

@PunishThenForgive
Thx. This link works for me.

 

[Warwick7]

However, sealed materials will stay sealed despite Judge Hippler stating he is lifting gag order.

 

[Seattle1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945888042394214781

 

[MassGuy]

Kohberger gag order hearing: Judge Hippler says concerns identified by defendant while certainly significant, do not outweigh rights of the public. Lifting it will not meaningfully impact the concerns (media frenzy).Reminds parties that state has already said it will not be commenting until after sentencing."I just don't think I can justify the continuation of the non-dissemination order."

Will Be lifting the order.

This does not convert sealed documents to unsealed documents .Media has requested these documents be unsealed, but Hippler is denying that outright. After sentencing the process of unsealing will begin. Process will include opportunity for counsel to register objections to specific documents/redactions. Will be done in groupings and will be done from newest to oldest as those are the ones he is most familiar with (fresh in his mind).Will determine why they were sealed and if that rationale still applies.This will take time. "I'm not talking days, and I'm not talking weeks."Unlikely to unseal much until after appeals period has run its course. Right to appeal doesn't go away because of the waiver.

 

[arielilane]

@BrianEntin


Kohberger judge just said people should not expect documents to come out quickly -- even with gag order over.He has to decide what to unseal. And unseal things after reviewing.And may not unseal things before appeal period is up.


12:53 PM · Jul 17, 2025

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945889692186001699

 

[NyxNY]

WhaT?! Can someone please explain Hippler saying: Although defendant waives his right to appeal, this does NOT mean he cannot appeal??

 

[arielilane]

Breaking: Judge in University of Idaho murder case lifts non-dissemination order (so-called 'gag order'.) This does not mean you can start reading everything that was filed in the case vs. Bryan Kohberger:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945890155224789390

Kohberger's defense team opposed the lifting of the order.


In a motion filed before Thursday's hearing, defense attorneys argued the ongoing publicity threatens Kohberger's safety.

"Further release would only serve to gin up the anger and violent rhetoric already at a fever pitch," attorneys wrote.

Judge in Kohberger case lifts non-dissemination order, allows those connected to case to speak publicly

BOISE, Idaho - The judge in the case against convicted killer Bryan Kohberger freed those involved in the case to speak publicly about the case, lifting the non-dissemination order that's

www.kxly.com

Attorneys will be allowed to argue against that and also weigh in on whether documents would be released and redacted.

Hippler said he intends to go in order from newest to oldest when reviewing those documents.

Kohberger will be sentenced July 23rd in Boise.

 

[Warwick7]

Kohberger gag order hearing: Judge Hippler says concerns identified by defendant while certainly significant, do not outweigh rights of the public. Lifting it will not meaningfully impact the concerns (media frenzy).Reminds parties that state has already said it will not be commenting until after sentencing."I just don't think I can justify the continuation of the non-dissemination order."

Will Be lifting the order.

This does not convert sealed documents to unsealed documents .Media has requested these documents be unsealed, but Hippler is denying that outright. After sentencing the process of unsealing will begin. Process will include opportunity for counsel to register objections to specific documents/redactions. Will be done in groupings and will be done from newest to oldest as those are the ones he is most familiar with (fresh in his mind).Will determine why they were sealed and if that rationale still applies.This will take time. "I'm not talking days, and I'm not talking weeks."Unlikely to unseal much until after appeals period has run its course. Right to appeal doesn't go away because of the waiver.

Right to appeal??