GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #115

[Stratocaster]

Now that docs have been released, and the dust had settled (mostly) with the case.

Criminal profiling here, and trying to climb into 'bushy eyebrows' mind....it's been now confirmed that the two cross country LE traffic stops had zero influence on the case.

JMO, 'bushy eyebrows' would have needed a heart defibrillator after that second LE stop. At that point white Elantra's were in the nation's crosshairs, and I'm sure he felt the walls slowly closing in.

 

[Inthedetails]

Now that docs have been released, and the dust had settled (mostly) with the case.

Criminal profiling here, and trying to climb into 'bushy eyebrows' mind....it's been now confirmed that the two cross country LE traffic stops had zero influence on the case.

JMO, 'bushy eyebrows' would have needed a heart defibrillator after that second LE stop. At that point white Elantra's were in the nation's crosshairs, and I'm sure he felt the walls slowly closing in.

I can't help but wonder how bad of a driver he must be to be pulled over at all, let alone twice in a short span.

Doesn't mean anything, I know, but it's just an odd detail.

jmopinion

 

[Dotta]

With all these stops and discussions with Officers
the journey home seemed never ending.

Dad must have been putting on a brave face

"It's a long way to Pennsylvania
It's a long way to go..."

JMO

 

[Tugb0ats]

He hated women but was tethered to his mom. Looking to level up after the murders. How did he view his mother's role in all this? Did he expect blind support if he got caught?

I also wonder about that. What's the connection there and why did he hate women so much but not hate his mother? I remember Ed Kemper. He depised women because of how his mother treated him growing up and then eventually killed her. Clearly, BK's relationship with his mother is different but I'm just trying to understand how it all ties together.

 

[cottonweaver]

Haven’t watched this yet but it should be interesting.

Lots of interesting extra details in that new interview.

Couple of them
- he was appealing the TA termination and complained that he'd lost his tuition and his health insurance
- the Cellebrite couple weren't tasked to look at his SM accounts. We know MPD sent subpoenas to a long list of SM companies so there's that still to be released? When the state's attorney office lawyer tells ATaylor ' we have more aggravating evidence' than the WSU files ,I think it could be his SM posts)

 

[Megnut]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1957749401947931095

• Bryan Kohberger was the only first-year doctoral candidate in Washington State University criminology program who supported the death penalty, according to students.
• In an argument with one classmate he told her to imagine that her 12-year-old daughter had been raped and murdered.
• He also said the victim's family should decide on the death penalty — then took a plea deal to avoid being executed.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1957664841029591357

"He became a topic of weekly discussion in disciplinary meetings,
specifically in regard to his
'interactions with fellow postgraduate students, in and out of the classroom,
along with his behavior around some of the Criminal Justice Professors'.

Among the complaints were accusations from several women
that Kohberger made sexual comments about them,
including asking a deaf classmate if
'she would be comfortable procreating given the fact she had a disability',
the outlet reported."

The how unnerves me. How did he even know his classmate had a twelve year old girl? (Maybe it came up in introductions or discussions but it's creepy to think he sleuthed it, creepy enough he used her daughter to make his sinister point).

JMO

 

[Megnut]

I also wonder about that. What's the connection there and why did he hate women so much but not hate his mother? I remember Ed Kemper. He depised women because of how his mother treated him growing up and then eventually killed her. Clearly, BK's relationship with his mother is different but I'm just trying to understand how it all ties together.

Freud would have a thing or two to say about it.

Guessing it was a complex dynamic. Mother and Father both, intuitively afraid of what he might do, left to his own devices. (I'm going to assume they feared drugs, theft, self-harm, not murder.)

I think he actually hated his mother. Controlling her satisfied his daily fix. He held them hostage, through guilt, fear, fidelity, pity, something. In them, he had an unfettered audience, monologue central, I expect.

Every day they got him through was perhaps a victory, an exhausting victory but a victory all the same. I wonder if he created a verbal fantasy social life, where they may have actually felt he was finding his way, fitting in, etc.

Pool party? He saw it as a fishbowl for phone number fishing. Must have felt quite powerful to him to decide who was and wasn't worthy of his perfect attention.

Where did he get this gross, inflated ego??????

A trove of personal selfies? Shirtless, puffed up chest. Impressing himself over and over?

Didn't last a single term in WA. For all the reasons, preoccupied with his greatness and the crime he was plotting long before he even landed himself at WSU. IMO this was the thesis and dissertation he planned all along.

Heartless criminal, barely disguised by a dress shirt.

JMO

 

[Inthedetails]

Lots of interesting extra details in that new interview.

Couple of them
- he was appealing the TA termination and complained that he'd lost his tuition and his health insurance
- the Cellebrite couple weren't tasked to look at his SM accounts. We know MPD sent subpoenas to a long list of SM companies so there's that still to be released? When the state's attorney office lawyer tells ATaylor ' we have more aggravating evidence' than the WSU files ,I think it could be his SM posts)

He was appealing his termination? Seriously?

jmopinion

 

[Chloegirl]

The how unnerves me. How did he even know his classmate had a twelve year old girl? (Maybe it came up in introductions or discussions but it's creepy to think he sleuthed it, creepy enough he used her daughter to make his sinister point).

JMO

I have had strong weird feelings about this for a while. I think he was trying to shove the death penalty in his Mother's face. Suicide by cop through another form. She may have excessively demanded (they seem to have a prove you love me back and fourth vibe) he save himself, confess, relinquish the DP.

I think he does not want to live and has been throwing himself away for more than a decade, torturing his family through the process, along with the rest of us now. JMOO

 

[Chloegirl]

He was appealing his termination? Seriously?

jmopinion

When I read that my brain went straight to going through the processes as an act. If he was never arrested he should be doing this, right?! JMOO

 

[Inthedetails]

I have had strong weird feelings about this for a while. I think he was trying to shove the death penalty in his Mother's face. Suicide by cop through another form. She may have excessively demanded (they seem to have a prove you love me back and fourth vibe) he save himself, confess, relinquish the DP.

I think he does not want to live and has been throwing himself away for more than a decade, torturing his family through the process, along with the rest of us now. JMOO

I think "proxy suicide" via incarceration in many cases, especially with men in their late teens into their 20s - they trash their life through crime, essentially "ending" it by going to prison forever.

However, I don't think so with BK. I think he is still proceeding through his life "experiencing" it. Sometimes I even suspect he's totally fine with what is happening to his life.

jmopinion

 

[NyxNY]

Mistakes in that article. Combining incidents that were not about the residents of the house with unrelated things.

Well, at least they're consistent :/ The Daily Mail is known to do this often. They honestly don't care how accurate they are, as long as they get that article out there first. I still don't see how they are considered a reputable source.

 

[Chloegirl]

I think "proxy suicide" via incarceration in many cases, especially with men in their late teens into their 20s - they trash their life through crime, essentially "ending" it by going to prison forever.

However, I don't think so with BK. I think he is still proceeding through his life "experiencing" it. Sometimes I even suspect he's totally fine with what is happening to his life.

jmopinion

You could be right. Maybe this gave him an identity. That was sad to just even type. He suffers from lack of an identity more than anybody I have ever considered.

He attaches himself temporarily to ideas, acts on them via poor judgment or overcompensates when he does not like maybe his own actions. Really just a sad life, hell bent on taking others out with him. JMOO

 

[Arkay]

I think he does not want to live and has been throwing himself away for more than a decade,

SBM

It’s entirely possible, as he refuses to share anything, but if that’s true then IMO he should have accepted the death penalty and insisted on no decades-long appeal process.

He’s going to remain an enigma unless one day he decides to explain his motive and give all the pertinent details.

I don’t see this happening anytime soon. Maybe in 20 years when the attention has been supplanted by future murderers and he wants the spotlight again.


Just my speculation.

 

[cottonweaver]

He was appealing his termination? Seriously?

jmopinion

It's towards the very end of that video if you scroll back from the end. Mentioned by the Mr Cellebrite, not Mrs C.

I wonder how or if he relayed it to his family? No job, no insurance. No PhD

 

[Dotta]

He was appealing his termination? Seriously?

jmopinion

IMO

It shows how detached he was/is from reality

He simply didn't understand what was wrong,
didn't take hints concerning his behaviour towards others.

It seems he said whatever came to his mind,
whatever "saliva put on his tongue".
(Children sometimes do this,
say hurtful things without realizing they may bother others)

I think he is insane.

He is living in his own world,
completely oblivious of his negative impact on others.
He seems law unto himself.

His nocturnal activities look like double life.
Prowling at night
"teaching" during days.
Unable to form meaningful relationships.
Or not really needing them?

His only "soft spot" seems to be his family.
(He reacted aggressively thinking an inmate offended Mother)
But maybe he sees family as extension of himself?

No remorse whatsoever.
It struck me
when during sentencing some members of victims' families offered him forgiveness
which he did NOT ask for!

JMO

Just my observations, my impressions
as I'm not a psychiatrist.
I'm at a loss what to think really.

 

[stormymama]

I think BK had every intention of not getting caught and doing this all over again. He was just getting started. moo

 

[Boxer]

I can't help but wonder how bad of a driver he must be to be pulled over at all, let alone twice in a short span.

Doesn't mean anything, I know, but it's just an odd detail.

jmopinion

MOO
It was an out of state plate drug transport check.

 

[Dotta]

I think BK had every intention of not getting caught and doing this all over again. He was just getting started. moo

He even praised himself!

"About three weeks after the murders,
Kohberger told the Ph.D. student
that whoever had committed the crimes

'must have been pretty good',

Idaho State Police Detective Sgt. Michael Van Leuven wrote in a report."

Colleagues warned of Bryan Kohberger’s sexist, creepy behavior before Idaho murders

Kohberger was sentenced to life in prison without parole last month

www.independent.co.uk

 

[StarryStarryNight]

SBM

It’s entirely possible, as he refuses to share anything, but if that’s true then IMO he should have accepted the death penalty and insisted on no decades-long appeal process.

He’s going to remain an enigma unless one day he decides to explain his motive and give all the pertinent details.

I don’t see this happening anytime soon. Maybe in 20 years when the attention has been supplanted by future murderers and he wants the spotlight again.


Just my speculation.

I think, like you, that he will keep his secrets for awhile to enjoy just by himself. At some point though, could be next year, could be twenty years, he’s going to want to talk.
So many times we heard that he was researching and talking about and wanted to know what it felt like to commit a crime or kill somebody.
Well, now he knows. So for that reason I think he wants to sit down and talk about it all at some point. Not so much to tell it so somebody else can analyze it, but to tell how he analyzed it all. After all, he is the smartest guy in the room.