GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #115

[Arkay]

It might draw attention of all kinds of lawyers dealing with human rights.
Who would like a scandal?
Something like starving an inmate?
Was it in his sentence by Judge?
To cut his food?

Oh definitely, Dotta, the Constitution demands no cruel and unusual punishment for a prisoner.

However, and this is just my opinion and how I read his complaints, he is not at all being deprived of food, so he won’t starve unless he goes on a hunger strike. He is just being neglected in regards to some of the menu items.

I don’t know if this is just typical prison guard games or whatever.

Frankly I don’t care if he doesn’t have all his favorite comfort foods. He offered no comfort to his victims, nor to his poor parents.

He will have plenty enough food for sustenance.

A maximum security prison is not a catering hall. He committed the worst of the worst crimes, he is surrounded by other murderers, this is what he deserves.

He could’ve opted in for the firing squad but he opted for this.

He’s a rookie. He’ll become a veteran. LOTS and LOTS of years to adjust to his new environment.

JUST MY OPINION with respect for those who disagree.

 

[10ofRods]

"Food items also were missing on several occasions from his meal tray
and not addressed when Kohberger asked,
he asserted in another grievance.

'I wish to, without exception,
receive these replacements',

wrote the man referred to in the prison system as Resident #163214.

'The nutritional standard is not being upheld
unless I receive my full tray'."

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article311775212.html

I do wonder what his appeals process is for this. AFAIK, the prison has its own internal prisoner review process, which stops at the Chief Admin/Warden. "I want two fruit cups, due to nutritional needs, they only gave me one." Is a few missing fruit cups or lack of extra bread roll enough to make management talk to the prisoners who are in charge of putting stuff on plates? If there are still "mistakes" then what's his appeal process?

How would he even manage to file a lawsuit against the prison/its admins? I mean, sometimes you see the defense attorney from the criminal trial attempt to redress truly egregious prison conditions, but that's actually rare. In this case, he had a public defender, and I really don't think they're going to go against their own public system to get him his fruit cup.

But let's say that a hungry civil attorney, wanting notoriety, decides to file a lawsuit against the prison and names the State of Idaho as a defendant. To get said civil attorney, BK needs permission from...the Chief/Warden (who approves all visitors and phone call participants who are not immediate family). Let's say the Warden says "Nope," you lost your right to make outside business arrangements when you became a convicted felon.

I can't even imagine a system in which prisoners were all allowed to have civil attorneys stop by and then file suits on their behalf. I have no clue if this happens at all, but I know it's not common.

Warden will likely tell kitchen admin (who doesn't themselves perform the tray filling) to give BK his extra (vegan) fruit cup, as he is entitled to stay on his vegan food plan.

(I imagine he's getting things like a can of drained black beans dumped on top of the standard prison "salad"...plus a fruit cup).

He's entitled to a certain number of calories spread across the traditional categories (protein, carbs, fats). I doubt his micronutrient balance and vitamins are going to be studied by some in-prison health crew. If he wanted freedom to eat as he wishes, he ought not to have done something to land in prison?

IMO.

 

[lonetraveler]

Im not sure if i have to be worried. Im gloating.

Jmo

I know what you mean. I would be totally disappointed if the inmates were not harassing him.

 

[Herat]

Prison lawsuits over food are to be expected and get wildly out of control and abusive.

I recall one over the lack of crunchy peanut butter, only smooth.

 

[DizzyB]

In addition to being a murderer, he is a guy who consistently “doesn’t get it”. Across the board.

 

[cottonweaver]

This is stalking behavior. The occasion when Bryan continuously stood behind her chair as she worked (i.e. stood where she could feel his presence but couldn't see what he was doing or looking at) and the fact that he stopped it when another advisor came into the room indicated that Bryan knew that what he was doing was over the line.

IMO, this woman is fortunate to be alive. She clearly occupied a big place in Bryan's predatory brain.

It makes me furious that more was not done by authorities at WSU to help this young woman - like assisting her in obtaining a restraining order against a man who was clearly stalking and attempting to physically intimidate her.

That one was supplement number 118, page 332 if you want to read the full four pages

here's some relevant parts







source GUILTY - PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #115

 

[cottonweaver]

I agree, he is certainly on a mission.

A mission requiring that he is made comfortable and cozy in every way.

Alas, too bad. He’s in prison with the worst of the worst. Not in nursery school with nap time and lullabies and snacks.

I am enjoying the schadenfreude.

JMO

and it was only last week we heard he was boasting to WSU people about only eating one meal a day but now he's aware of the minimum nutritional standards.

Maybe it's just a power and control game?

At this rate, the media will be FOIA-ing the prison every month because they know - like @CamilleBSP posted on this page - this has Sarah Boone style potential. Viewers love to follow it.

ETA - and then if lots of the inmates watch L& C or Court TV like he does, he'll just get more hazing.

 

[cottonweaver]

In this document, he expects coffee at a cheaper price - line C

( WSU bookstore )

 

[Inthedetails]

In this document, he expects coffee at a cheaper price - line C

( WSU bookstore )
View attachment 609962

Regarding item G. Way to be an ally to a co-worker. I admire that, while at the same time wishing it didn't have to be that way. But, he seems insightful in summing up the situation on the job with BK as a customer.

jmopinion

 

[cottonweaver]

Regarding item G. Way to be an ally to a co-worker. I admire that, while at the same time wishing it didn't have to be that way. But, he seems insightful in summing up the situation on the job with BK as a customer.

jmopinion

agree. What a gent

 

[PunishThenForgive]

In this document, he expects coffee at a cheaper price - line C

( WSU bookstore )
View attachment 609962

The murderer is always making demands on others—his parents, his sisters, his former classmates, his erstwhile childhood friends, bookstore employees, bar staff, WSU professors and staff, and, most recently, prison staff—but NEVER GIVES ANYTHING in return, other than abuse and disrespect.

After FINALLY admitting that he brutally murdered Kaylee, Maddie, Ethan and Xana, you’d think he’d shut up and take the punishment he deserves. But no, he just gets louder and more insistent. Apparently, he thinks he’s the only one with rights. The depth of his selfishness astounds me.

IMO

 

[Tealgrove]

The murderer is always making demands on others—his parents, his sisters, his former classmates, his erstwhile childhood friends, bookstore employees, bar staff, WSU professors and staff, and, most recently, prison staff—but NEVER GIVES ANYTHING in return, other than abuse and disrespect.

After FINALLY admitting that he brutally murdered Kaylee, Maddie, Ethan and Xana, you’d think he’d shut up and take the punishment he deserves. But no, he just gets louder and more insistent. Apparently, he thinks he’s the only one with rights. The depth of his selfishness astounds me.

IMO

He’s a “Taker” not a “Giver”

Probably never GAVE anything to anyone ever.

MOO

 

[Arkay]

In this document, he expects coffee at a cheaper price - line C

( WSU bookstore )
View attachment 609962

I’m so sick of this guy.

There has not been one thing I have ever read or heard about him, over the years now, that shows the slightest inkling about the wants, needs or emotions of any other people.

Not for his mother or father. Not for his students. Not for his colleagues. Not for people working in stores. Not for his bosses. Not for any woman who passed through his orbit. Don’t know about his siblings but the pattern suggests “no.”

Possibly cared about Dr. Ramsland but only as he needed her and other professors to grade him well. Also possibly AT, only because she was the means to an end for him.

Every single thing in his life has centered solely on his needs, wants and preferences.

Until of course it culminated in his mass murder, because he wanted to do that. Whether or not he meant to kill only one, he ultimately slaughtered them all, because of his need to wreak havoc and revenge and then escape.

To my mind he’s just a tornado causing destruction everywhere, and he is as unconcerned as the tornado, too.

He certainly in prison will continue to obsessively focus on what he wants.

Therefore I just cannot feel pity if he doesn’t get his dessert or something.

JMO

ETA : just now read yours above, @PunishThenForgive. Totally agree.

 

[cottonweaver]

The murderer is always making demands on others—his parents, his sisters, his former classmates, his erstwhile childhood friends, bookstore employees, bar staff, WSU professors and staff, and, most recently, prison staff—but NEVER GIVES ANYTHING in return, other than abuse and disrespect.

After FINALLY admitting that he brutally murdered Kaylee, Maddie, Ethan and Xana, you’d think he’d shut up and take the punishment he deserves. But no, he just gets louder and more insistent. Apparently, he thinks he’s the only one with rights. The depth of his selfishness astounds me.

IMO

I agree. Entitled and pushy. It's not just about not understanding social cues, yes that's part of it but...

Even when we saw him when he was on his best behavior - the two traffic stops in Moscow and Pullman - he was also a little manipulative, wants to get his way.

Will try and find the clip from Gray Hughes' account
ETA Sorry can't find the vid now, it was the seatbelt one and the intersection one in the same vid

 

[crhedBngr]

He is entitled to vegan food. He is not entitled to choose his menu. Nor are any special accommodations going to be made, when BK is safely in his own cell, and other people say mean things to him. People may threaten him, but when he is safe in his own cell, nothing will be done, except tell other prisoners that they can not verbalize any threats to BK.

Then, the guard goes back to his work, and prisoners continue to say mean things. Nothing can be done.

RBBM

Didn't he tell a relative to get different pans to cook his vegan food?

I could be wrong, but thought I read this somewhere.

JMVHO.

 

[cottonweaver]

I’m so sick of this guy.

There has not been one thing I have ever read or heard about him, over the years now, that shows the slightest inkling about the wants, needs or emotions of any other people.

Not for his mother or father. Not for his students. Not for his colleagues. Not for people working in stores. Not for his bosses. Not for any woman who passed through his orbit. Don’t know about his siblings but the pattern suggests “no.”

Possibly cared about Dr. Ramsland but only as he needed her and other professors to grade him well. Also possibly AT, only because she was the means to the end for him.

Every single thing in his life has centered solely on his needs, wants and preferences.

Until of course it culminated in his mass murder, because he wanted to do that. Whether or not he meant to kill only one, he ultimately slaughtered them all, because of his need to wreak havoc and revenge and then escape.

To my mind he’s just a tornado causing destruction everywhere.

He certainly in prison will continue to obsessively focus on what he wants.

Therefore I just cannot feel pity if he doesn’t get his dessert or something.

JMO

ETA : just now read yours above, @PunishThenForgive. Totally agree.

Here's another example which stood out

Has a hissy fit because he wasn't acknowledged.
( Same witness and supp number as previous, I'll link it at the bottom)




source and screenshots of other paragraphs from this witness - GUILTY - PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #115
same witness - one of the gay women students he wouldn't leave alone GUILTY - PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #115

 

[browneyes]

My how the “big knife boy” has fallen. He’s submitting complaints about harassment, while he is physically protected, a fruit cup and a roll. IMHO, this killer should have accepted the DP and waived appeals…he will not survive prison. He deserves everything he’s getting, which is nothing in comparison to what he put Maddie, Xana, Ethan and Kaylee through. I hate him.

 

[Diddian]

RBBM

Didn't he tell a relative to get different pans to cook his vegan food?

I could be wrong, but thought I read this somewhere.

JMVHO.

Yes, that was reported many threads ago. Had I been that relative, I'd have bounced him. Or at the very least, told him where he could buy himself some pans and what hours the kitchen was free for him to cook for himself (provided he also cleaned up after himself).

 

[Arkay]

My how the “big knife boy” has fallen. He’s submitting complaints about harassment, while he is physically protected, a fruit cup and a roll. IMHO, this killer should have accepted the DP and waived appeals…he will not survive prison. He deserves everything he’s getting, which is nothing in comparison to what he put Maddie, Xana, Ethan and Kaylee through. I hate him.

SO TRUE.

I want to thank the wayward sheath that caught him unaware.

He wouldn’t be in a Max prison now had he remained what he had always seemed to be—an obnoxious, self-centered, oblivious, offensive, intimidating jerky brat.

Clearly we all know how far he went to satiate his desires. Therefore, prison for four lifetimes.

Suck it up, prisoner. There will be no reprieve for the likes of you.

IMO

 

[arielilane]

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