GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #115

[Chloegirl]

Of course I'm confused. Why now, release the body cam today? Classes start on Monday the timing just seems really weird with the families of MM and EC suing the City and a restraining order or whatever. Just confused. JMOO

 

[LadyL]

Bryan Kohberger — a Vegan — Accuses Prison of Denying Him Food Alternatives, Demands 'Full Tray' at Meals

Bryan Kohberger, 30, wrote in his July 31 complaint: 'The nutritional standard is not being upheld unless I receive my full tray.'

people.com

Food Services | Idaho Department of Correction

www.idoc.idaho.gov

There is a sample menu of food for a month. It is not adapted for vegan, but that can be accommodated.

BK can also have "Commissary Packages" sent to him with additional food items.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/convicted-murderer-bryan-kohbergers-grim-first-meal-inside-hellhole-prison/news-story/918e495cbe00ab5a7ed3faa50c773bf2

Here is a picture of his first meal, looks like tacos and beans. I think BK better like tortillas and beans, because he will probably eat a lot of them. And no doubt, plenty of potatoes.

Idk if that was his first meal as they literally stole that picture from the page you linked above (and lied about it - great journalism!) but anyway ... I would eat that no problem (I'm vegan) except whatever that brown object is in top left - cake?

 

[Tillyjames]

Currently watching the body cam video, and it’s insane to me that he drove past the house the next morning. I know they woke up late that morning but if he had driven by when the police were already there… hard watch with the video though.

 

[MassGuy]

If you watch the officer move around, you can get a feel for Kohberger entering, and Xana’s movements around the ping pong table.

The officer had to swivel a bit when he passed through the sliding door, but it was open more than what I previously believed.

When Xana was running from Kohberger, I think she probably bumped into the corner of the table, knocking over some of those cups.

It could have also been Kohberger, of course (less familiar with the house and all).

 

[DizzyB]

I know that it’s the officer’s job to ask Dylan all of the questions, but I screamed inside when he was asking for her roommates’ birthdates. She stood out there in her bare feet and politely answered every question to the best of her ability, in the middle of unspeakable tragedy, while trying to hold it together. To know that she even yelled out to her roommates in the middle of this carnage, and somehow the monster did not kill her. Ugh.

 

[twall]

Of course I'm confused. Why now, release the body cam today? Classes start on Monday the timing just seems really weird with the families of MM and EC suing the City and a restraining order or whatever. Just confused. JMOO

Same, I watched the first few minutes and had to turn it off. It is midnight where I am so I am tired but it just made me feel ill seeing and hearing the scene in real time.

 

[snooptroop88]

If you watch the officer move around, you can get a feel for Kohberger entering, and Xana’s movements around the ping pong table.

The officer had to swivel a bit when he passed through the sliding door, but it was open more than what I previously believed.

When Xana was running from Kohberger, I think she probably bumped into the corner of the table, knocking over some of those cups.

It could have also been Kohberger, of course (less familiar with the house and all).

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Super grateful for these images because I had been trying before to figure out where exactly the beer pong table was. I've wondered if the positioning of that table didn't somehow result in the "flash/bang" I think one of the surviving roommates said she'd heard that table moving right around the time of the flash & firecracker noise. What's that gold thingy behind the beer pong table?

Getting another couple images online here, those are lights, and lots of electrical cords down there on the ground:


And I think that's a power strip in the viewer's far-left corner there. Ah! And look at this:


That's a weight, I think (?? maybe? still looking at it) like a little dumbbell for arm exercises. Did that fall? I won't say why I'm asking this (graphic), but did he have this upstairs? And then did it later maybe fall, perhaps off the table when he went downstairs and the table started moving?

Having someone look at it with me here, too. Is that a handweight or a lantern?

 

[FoxxTraxx]

Bodycam video!

That body cam video is astounding. Hard to absorb it all it one sitting (52 minutes).

It appears that news of the murders had not yet been reported when this was recorded. Nearby residents driving by are barely curious about the police presence. No news reporters in sight.

I've been trying to think back to when I first heard about this crime. I assumed it was some kind of domestic dispute or drug deal. It's still hard to believe 4 people were brutally killed there by one lunatic.

 

[mickey2942]

These pictures of the victims, crime scene, interspersed with comments about BK's petulant whining, is so surreal to me.

BK complains he is missing a biscuit and fresh fruit.

Dylan is being questioned about her dead friends and their names, date of birth.

BK gets chocolate cake or brownie with dinner.

The officer's bodycam shows the house, and tells his boss to get to the scene of a quadruple homicide.

It is just too much.

 

[crhedBngr]

Super grateful for these images because I had been trying before to figure out where exactly the beer pong table was. I've wondered if the positioning of that table didn't somehow result in the "flash/bang" I think one of the surviving roommates said she'd heard that table moving right around the time of the flash & firecracker noise. What's that gold thingy behind the beer pong table?
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Getting another couple images online here, those are lights, and lots of electrical cords down there on the ground:
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And I think that's a power strip in the viewer's far-left corner there. Ah! And look at this:
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That's a weight, I think (?? maybe? still looking at it) like a little dumbbell for arm exercises. Did that fall? I won't say why I'm asking this (graphic), but did he have this upstairs? And then did it later maybe fall, perhaps off the table when he went downstairs and the table started moving?

Having someone look at it with me here, too. Is that a handweight or a lantern?

Looks to be a handweight.

JMVHO.

 

[Ghostwheel]

From the video, look a how easy it is to get to a car from the back of the house. Not up the hill, but across the back. No effort at all to get there.

 

[gremlin444]

@Ghostwheel what is the time stamp on that object?

 

[Ghostwheel]

@Ghostwheel what is the time stamp on that object?

9:20 at the bottom of the video 12:07:50 on the top right.

 

[gremlin444]

Super grateful for these images because I had been trying before to figure out where exactly the beer pong table was. I've wondered if the positioning of that table didn't somehow result in the "flash/bang" I think one of the surviving roommates said she'd heard that table moving right around the time of the flash & firecracker noise. What's that gold thingy behind the beer pong table?
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Getting another couple images online here, those are lights, and lots of electrical cords down there on the ground:
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And I think that's a power strip in the viewer's far-left corner there. Ah! And look at this:
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That's a weight, I think (?? maybe? still looking at it) like a little dumbbell for arm exercises. Did that fall? I won't say why I'm asking this (graphic), but did he have this upstairs? And then did it later maybe fall, perhaps off the table when he went downstairs and the table started moving?

Having someone look at it with me here, too. Is that a handweight or a lantern?

It's not.

The orange bag is the bag that Officer Nunes (whose bodycam we are watching) grabs out of the trunk of his police car when he arrives. At that point, he thinks unconscious person...so that is likely first aid and basic resuscitation kit. Which has thick white stripes on each side that appear to attach to black areas on the bag. The end pouches of that bag appear to have a big black rubbery sections on them. My computer isn't that great, but here are some screenshots of that bag in his trunk between 2min 25-2 min 28 in the video:


He puts it down right outside the hallway to Xana's room...either right before or right after HJ takes him into the room the first time. When it's on the floor, the ends of the bag kinda squish up against that white side stripe....and that's what is giving it the impression of being a hand weight sitting right next to the orange emergency bag...the not so great quality of the video doesn't help that much.

I think I know what path your mind took you....and I get it. But if it had been used on Kaylee, Nunes would have seen blood on it in when he went to put his bag there....and then he def would not have put his bag there.

Hope this puts your mind at ease.

 

[waitin'4thewrld2chg]

Musing about the following: with all the stir the murderer caused at WSU before and after November 13 via his lurking, staring, blocking of egress, display of argumentativeness, misogynistic tendencies, etc., ad nauseum, I wonder if, among all the tips, his name was ever mentioned to LE. Anyone knowing his car (even though at first its year was not included in the span released) could have further wondered about the guy because of the make/color of the vehicle he was driving. Not to mention the scuffed up hands after the fact. Lying low for a week after the murders.

Seems like I read somewhere that he had crossed someone's mind, and I know one WSU staff person didn't have a glowing prediction for his future, but as to an actual tip, maybe not.....

I like to think *I'd* have been calling his name right in. In my mind, I'd have been all over it. Because in retrospect, it's easy. Enter reality. I wasn't thinking student, really, much less PhD student. Chances are the killer was regarded at WSU as falling somewhere between being a pain and being a huge creepy creeper rather than as a wildly dangerous pre- or post-homicidal maniac.

Luckily LE didn't need my help and did a beautiful and relatively quick job of putting the complicated puzzle pieces together, with the finale occurring in Pennsylvania, all tied up with a bow and some handcuffs.

Edit: rogue comma

 

[NavySubMom]

I already know his motive: Stalking, and the murder weapon is irrelevant to his conviction.

You cannot be sure of his Motive, as you cannot know whether he had any personal interaction, or any specific incidents or verbal conversations , or otherwise, with any one or more of the victims. None of us knows that,
I’m not saying the knife had anything to do with his conviction, but the prosecution could want to retrieve it, if they knew where it was .

 

[NavySubMom]

Does anyone know how the Plea Deal, Kohberger pleading GUILTY to all four (4) Counts of First Degree Murder, came about ? Did the Prosecutor’s Office first float the deal to Kohberger ? Or did Kohberger approach the Prosecutor’s Office , asking to have the Death Penalty removed ? Do we have the Link, Quote, News Article , or Narrative posted here on Websleuths ? I have exhaustively searched , but I cannot find it. I do not know how that Deal came about , thank you very much !

 

[gremlin444]

The officer whose bodycam we are watching is Officer Nunes (you can see how it matches his report in the MPD doc releases #3. He was only 22...

Dylan did good job of describing what she saw to Nunes. I was impressed at how she held it together well enough to answer his questions and keep answering them.

I know some of HJ's reaction is calm reaction is shock....but also...I think he is a person who snaps right into a practical, take care of a situation mode the moment he senses a crisis. He could have waited on Emily to get dressed and walk over with her...he didn't...he went straight over himself...he went right in the house....and once he knew he got BF and DM out and got them calling the cops while he went to get a knife to make sure the murderer wasn't still there. Then he checked Xana's pulse just to be thorough....because while he knew she and Ethan were dead, he had to check if there was any tiny chance she was still alive and he could help.....and if Xana was cold, he knew both of them were long gone. That poor poor boy.

Those poor poor kids.

 

[crhedBngr]

Idaho Police release additional nongraphic photos.

The Elantra is at the end of the document.

https://idahostatepolice.justfoia.com/Attachments/Download/dc78316a-16ca-4f1a-8c2f-96bbae62da9c

ETA: These are in .pdf format. I open all .pdf files in my browser window, because it's easier to scroll through documents.

JMVHO.

 

[crhedBngr]

It’s my birthday for 45 more minutes and I don’t want to go to sleep heartbroken, so I will save this horror for tomorrow.

Thanks @MassGuy for finding it.

Happy Belated Birthday!


JMVHO.