GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #115

[Dotta]

That's interesting that they have an inmate-only system. I wonder if the inmates e-mail each other or if that's restricted too. I'm glad they're monitored.

IMO

I suppose
that an "Inmate-only" system
means
that a prisoner can ONLY connect via Internet with contacts APPROVED by Prison Authorities.

E.g:
- send an email to an approved person,
- make a call to such a person,
- open a book in e-library
- or music site.
Sometimes, also college lectures if a prisoner is allowed to enter educational programme.

Such contacts have to allow interactions with a prisoner as well.
A prisoner cannot interact with a person who doesn't permit it.

Also,
IMO this is a privilege to be able to use this system.
And an inmate must pay for it.

So...
No surfing, BUT only approved, specific contacts.

And, of course, all these activities are closely monitored.

This is how I see it.

JMO

 

[crhedBngr]

I wonder how inmates on J-Block who are restricted to their cells get access to pastors and priests and other religious leaders and how often. Maybe it is done by video visitation?

ebm

You're thinking Zoom, or some other platform for virtual meetings?

It would be interesting to find out if IMSI has virtual-meetings software installed and available to inmates.

JMVHO.

 

[sindydee]

I've used JPay previously to communicate with someone in Louisiana Its not like us having access to the internet. They have very limited access to certain things on a small tablet, like music and games and email. Not sure if books were on there as well. You could also record and send video messages upto 30 seconds from each side. It's quite expensive and everything is monitored. You have to pay for messages with stamps. A person communicating from the outside can gift stamps send over money through the J pay app.

 

[Dotta]

I've used JPay previously to communicate with someone in Louisiana Its not like us having access to the internet. They have very limited access to certain things on a small tablet, like music and games and email. Not sure if books were on there as well. You could also record and send video messages upto 30 seconds from each side. It's quite expensive and everything is monitored. You have to pay for messages with stamps. A person communicating from the outside can gift stamps send over money through the J pay app.

Exactly!!!

 

[ag513]

Yah Hunter was in the police car - though I don't think it was to stay warm, you hear him say something along the lines of "I'm the only one who knows" so I believe he was alone in the car as opposed to being with the others as he didn't want them to ask him questions or read his face and find out through him

Poor lad

I am about 9 pages behind reading the latest posts, so someone else may have already pointed this out (and apologies if this has already been discussed and for me coming in to the discussionso late!)

I do not believe it is Hunter in the police car. If you watch the video, Hunter is wearing a turquoise sweatshirt, white shorts, and white sandals (with no socks) when he shows the police officers into the house and shows them where he found XK and EC. That same person is seen throughout the video sitting with all of the other students outside and he is the one who walks up to greet Ethan's brother when he arrives.

The person in the police car is wearing a darker blue sweatshirt, white shorts, socks, and Birkenstock-like sandals. At one point earlier in the video, while Dylan is being interviewed, that person walks up towards Officer Nunes and says (slightly muffled in the video), "Can I ask what's going on?" At one point Dylan points someone out to Officer Nunes and says it's Kaylee's ex-boyfriend. I believe the person who is in the police car (wearing the darker blue sweatshirt) is actually JD, Kaylee's ex. When I watched Murphy being brought out by the police officers, I was wondering why JD didn't jump up to get Murphy, and I believe it's because he was the one in the police car so he didn't realize Murphy was ever brought out of the house. JMO

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1959718979787747530

"Kohberger first searched for the phrases 'wiretap' and 'psychopaths paranoid,'
data from his phone showed.

He then read a news story
about how police in Moscow, Idaho, were searching for a car whose description matched his.

Clearly spooked,
Kohberger's next internet activity saw him visit the Moscow Police Department's website
to see what the latest news on the murders was.

Immediately after that
he looked up an auto detailing shop.

And just 10 minutes later,
Kohberger was shopping for a new car online.

In the early hours of December 30 2022
- just a few hours after making those internet searches -
Kohberger was arrested at his parents home in Pennsylvania."

 

[Sundog]

You're thinking Zoom, or some other platform for virtual meetings?

It would be interesting to find out if IMSI has virtual-meetings software installed and available to inmates.

JMVHO.

JPay is the private tech firm that handles the video visitations and virtual meetings on inmates' tablets. JPay also provides the tablets. It all goes through JPay, not vendors like Zoom and Google, etc. JPay specializes in prison communication devices and connections, etc. They provide/sell tablets to inmates at IMSI and they install their software and also all educational and communication options to the inmates. Families and inmates have to use JPay to register to communicate for video visitations and emails. It is not a public system, it is a private company that contracts with prisons across the US to provide these resources, including security. The prison vets the contacts before they sign up for JPay to communicate with inmates. Inmates can only go to programs permitted on the tablets by JPay, such as eduational resources, finances, video visitations, email communications with family and friends, and music and some games. According to their website, posted above.

I wonder if the inmates who are in permanent segregation are allowed to watch religious services that may be streamlined on their tablets. And maybe chaplains can communicate with them by JPay email and JPay video visits. I would think that is likely for the J-block inmates. Safer for everyone. The Constitution protects inmates' religious rights, so I think that live video services and video visits by chaplains is likely how they are doing it for these inmates in segregation.

 

[Gemmie]

Who knows if his complaints are even true? He's a liar. He got cursed at? He's in prison for quadruple murder, not a country club. Complaining about his food, too? He is a Karen of Karens and now, his fellow inmates will know he's also a snitch. That should go over well for him.

Bryan Kohberger is becoming a "jailhouse Karen" with numerous complaints filed about his living conditions
...

"Let’s put this delicately: According to the reporting, Kohberger seems to be turning out to be something of a jailhouse Karen," said Paul Mauro, a retired NYPD inspector and Fox News contributor who has been closely following the case. "It doesn’t bode well for his longtime prognosis for getting along in that environment.
...

The frequent complaints make it obvious to other lifers that the treatment is getting under Kohberger’s skin, according to Keith Rovere, a former prison minister.

"He would have been better off just keeping this mouth shut and taking it," the "Lighter Side of True Crime" host told Fox News Digital. "They would have stopped harassing him after a while, but now that they know they're not just getting a reaction from him…now he is requesting a transfer? They are going to ramp it up in ways that he can't even imagine."

"A snitch who is weak will never survive," he added.

Experts react to Kohberger's prison behavior: 'A snitch who is weak will never survive'

Former criminology student Bryan Kohberger, convicted of killing four University of Idaho students, becomes a frequent complainer at his Idaho prison.

www.yahoo.com

 

[iamshadow21]

Bryan Kohberger is becoming a "jailhouse Karen" with numerous complaints filed about his living conditions
...

"Let’s put this delicately: According to the reporting, Kohberger seems to be turning out to be something of a jailhouse Karen," said Paul Mauro, a retired NYPD inspector and Fox News contributor who has been closely following the case. "It doesn’t bode well for his longtime prognosis for getting along in that environment.
...

The frequent complaints make it obvious to other lifers that the treatment is getting under Kohberger’s skin, according to Keith Rovere, a former prison minister.

"He would have been better off just keeping this mouth shut and taking it," the "Lighter Side of True Crime" host told Fox News Digital. "They would have stopped harassing him after a while, but now that they know they're not just getting a reaction from him…now he is requesting a transfer? They are going to ramp it up in ways that he can't even imagine."
"A snitch who is weak will never survive," he added.

Experts react to Kohberger's prison behavior: 'A snitch who is weak will never survive'

Former criminology student Bryan Kohberger, convicted of killing four University of Idaho students, becomes a frequent complainer at his Idaho prison.

www.yahoo.com

He does seem to be ignoring the sage advice for many social systems of 'don't feed the trolls' and doubling down on whining.

I like this for him. What's worked for him his whole life is not going to work in prison. There's no giving in so that he is placated, no mummy and daddy stepping in and pouring oil on troubled waters or facilitating interactions. Just the raw reality of a bunch of very bored incarcerated people scenting blood in the water.

I'm sure he's the best entertainment his fellow prisoners and the screws have had in months.

MOO

 

[LadyL]

I don't think he lost anything.
This is max security prison.
Daily showers were in a JAIL.

There are different rules there.

"You're in the PRISON
Oh, oh you're in the prison now ..." lalala

JMO

oh I get what was meant now (context!)
what I thought they meant was that he lost the privileges due to infractions, not that his shower privileges changed when he moved institutions
thanks for explaining

 

[Dotta]

Re BK's prison complaints

I wonder if he will break G Maxwell's record.
AFAI remember she wrote over 100 of them while staying in Brooklyn Federal Jail
Ted B was also busy writing complaints.
I remember he was angry that the light in his cell was not bright enough for him to study documents while he was preparing for his own Defence for trial.

JMO

 

[Gemmie]

Re BK's prison complaints

I wonder if he will break G Maxwell's record.
AFAI remember she wrote over 100 of them while staying in Brooklyn Federal Jail
Ted B was also busy writing complaints.
I remember he was angry that the light in his cell was not bright enough for him to study documents while he was preparing for his own Defence for trial.

JMO

Awww... so sad. Not.

What about the light that will never EVER shine again for the murdered??? Their lights were snuffed out.

JMO

 

[Chloegirl]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1959671389964706069

Thank you for posting this! I have been hearing all sorts of crazy stuff since practically the beginning, all hearsay of course. JMOO

 

[Melsworld]

I just watched both the body cam and looked at the new pictures released. Kudos to the officer first on the scene. He did a great job. It broke my heart when he was speaking to the officer who was going to get water bottles for the friends and he said they want to know what happened…..water bottle officer (with glasses) says, they know. Seeing Murphy being walked out broke me.

Looking at the pictures, the every day lives of 6 people who were a family and doing everything right. Just living life. The little Christmas pillow on the floor, the 2 tiny Christmas trees, the television left on, the empty toilet paper holder, the cute outdoor space, Xana’s uneaten fries from her DD order….so heartbreaking. I can just picture all the fun they had and the memories made. They went to bed believing in tomorrow.

Perfectly spoken, I didn't have the words but you said exactly how I feel.

 

[Kemug]

These people who have taken/ruined other peoples' lives - how dare their human rights be infringed?

 

[waitin'4thewrld2chg]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1959718979787747530

"Kohberger first searched for the phrases 'wiretap' and 'psychopaths paranoid,'
data from his phone showed.

He then read a news story
about how police in Moscow, Idaho, were searching for a car whose description matched his.

Clearly spooked,
Kohberger's next internet activity saw him visit the Moscow Police Department's website
to see what the latest news on the murders was.

Immediately after that
he looked up an auto detailing shop.

And just 10 minutes later,
Kohberger was shopping for a new car online.

In the early hours of December 30 2022
- just a few hours after making those internet searches -
Kohberger was arrested at his parents home in Pennsylvania."

I always thought it was curious that one of his searches near the time of the arrest was "psychopaths paranoid".

Since it's just a couple of words and not a sentence, one is left to guess what the full question was.

My best guess has always been that he was wondering if psychopaths---he believed himself to be one---typically get paranoid. He wonders if being antsy or panicky comes with the territory, so to speak. He has declared himself a psychopath at some point in the past and now wants to know how his experience of this compares with 'the norm'. Do other psychopaths feel like this? Maybe there is a touch of self-soothing going on.

Or it could be that he feels anxious and paranoid at this point and wonders if that lines up with a psychopathic trait. As in what do I have going on? He is working at a diagnosis. Have I arrived? Am now like Bundy and all the rest?

It would be the difference between already having diagnosed himself vs looking to rule a self-diagnosis in/out.. Whichever it was probably doesn't make a big difference in the overall scheme of things, but I do find myself intrigued by him and 'feelings'.

One of the things the survey he devised as a student examined was how does one feel when committing a criminal act IIRC, and now here he is with feelings again. Paranoia is uncomfortable. He apparently can feel certain things under certain conditions, and this motivates him to 'research'. Feelings are a strange land, but he will try to spend a little bit of time at understanding IF he is the one doing the 'feeling'. Empathy for others, victims and their loved ones most particularly, is, as we know, for him a total black hole.

 

[whirrledpeas]

Link to article: My small-town beer buddy vented about his creepy teaching assistant all semester — it turned out to be Bryan Kohberger

 

[iamshadow21]

Link to article: My small-town beer buddy vented about his creepy teaching assistant all semester — it turned out to be Bryan Kohberger

What a wonderful article. I wasn't expecting much given the Post, but it's a lovely, lovely piece about a great man who treated his career as a vocation, first in the courtroom, then later as a teacher. I'm so glad he was supported by his students and others after BK was arrested.

MOO

 

[cottonweaver]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1959671389964706069

Wonder why he had a ' scheduling conflict', from that link:

' Despite the TA-assignment system being designed to prevent this exact problem, Kohberger had a scheduling conflict and thus limited attendance in class, though he also often didn’t show up when available.'

Seems odd that BK's supervisor would mess up his schedule so was BK inventing a conflicting but regular diary appointment for that semester?

( He wasn't using WSU counselling and support services because MPD already checked that)

He sure wasn't committed to his WSU roles, that much was already clear. Almost as if he applied to WSU and relocated across the country with another priority in mind.....

 

[Dotta]

Wonder why he had a ' scheduling conflict', from that link:

' Despite the TA-assignment system being designed to prevent this exact problem, Kohberger had a scheduling conflict and thus limited attendance in class, though he also often didn’t show up when available.'

Seems odd that BK's supervisor would mess up his schedule so was BK inventing a conflicting but regular diary appointment for that semester?

( He wasn't using WSU counselling and support services because MPD already checked that)

He sure wasn't committed to his WSU roles, that much was already clear. Almost as if he applied to WSU and relocated across the country with another priority in mind.....

I have NO idea.
This all looks like a joke to me.
SMH
I pity the students.

JMO