GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #116

[girlhasnoname]

I just don’t get, if Maddie was his target, why he would be surprised to find so many other people in that house. He clearly staked out the house and had to have known there were other people there. Maybe he just really wanted to do it and knew he’d never be able to get her alone.

Agree, one may have been preferred over another, but I am sure the murderer knew there were multiple girls in that house. I still think he could have wanted to target as many as possible. They were the very representation of who he blamed for his failures and short comings.

Xana being up and moving and then finding a big, strapping jock Ethan in her room, DM awake and calling out, and Murphy barking were factors he didn't consider which put him on the run.

I just don't think he would have gone in and killed Maddie if she was alone and then immediately left. Maybe he was planning some sick pseudo s e x u a l contact with her being passed out or dead.

How I wish he would have tripped on the stairs and fell onto the knife 5 times while chasing Xana.

JMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

Xana ad to have been chased into the living room, per ISP report of living room crime scene. Page 95

You would have to go through the living room from the 3rd floor stairs to get to the short hallway to the BR and Xana's room IIRC.

 

[LinasK]

Where can I watch this new 20/20?

Do you get US ABC channel? Maybe their website or YouTube.

 

[Cedars]

What I still don't know is how he knew which bedroom was Maddie's to head straight to it. He must have stalked the house.

Yes, if you recall on surveillance footage, the vehicle drove past the front of the house and must have parked somewhere, before he entered through the sliding door via the backyard.

There is in fact a retaining wall above the backyard with a little, unobserved road where he could have parked and looked straight into M's room.

It's also speculated he could have followed them on social media and worked out the layout/other occupants, but also, why not even snuck into the house previously, to learn the exact layout.

There is a fascinating discussion about all this (including his admiration for Bundy) in a long Vinnie Politan interview with Dr. Gary Brucato (not sure whether I can link, but easily found on Youtube by searching those names).

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[Ghostwheel]

I found it odd that 20/20 had the bit about the DNA not being "trace". No one said it was "only a trace" of DNA, just that it was "trace" dna, sometimes also referred to as "touch" DNA depending on what it is. It might be small amounts but it could just as well be a lot, you just cannot see it. The original definition of trace dna was that it was so imperceptible you could not see it. Which somehow got translated to "miniscule", which is not the same thing. If you leave a drop of sweat on a counter and it dries, it is trace dna. It can't be easily seen (if at all), but it's not miniscule.

Same with "touch", usually skin cells. Still "trace" but can be a considerable amount. I think they mean trace as in "tracking back" for the DNA, like tracing the origin.

 

[Arkay]

Shocking how immature he is. Bundy and BTK knew how to blend into society. BK bottomed out of his PhD program almost before he started. It takes a special fool to have issues with students, peers and admin. Trifecta of failure-to-get-along-with-anyone.

Not that his was a noble aspiration, but IMO he could never have been Ted Bundy.

Bundy was smooth and a well-spoken charmer. He was conventionally good-looking, and he availed himself of that when wearing a cast and pretending he needed some female’s help to open his car door. Then of course he was able to pounce, as he did in several of his crimes.

BK’s personality was apparently the diametric opposite. Whatever the reason, and we’ve read about several, his affect was very off-putting. He didn’t know how to comport himself in a manner that would attract many women or even friends, and it appears that he took the only means he could to enter and then end the lives of four people who lived nearby, but were worlds apart from him.

JMO

 

[PinkParis2052]

Where can I watch this new 20/20?

Stream the latest 20/20 ‘Idaho Justice’ full episode on Hulu and Disney+ under Season 47, Episode 33.

 

[MassGuy]

State’s Objection to Alternate Perpetrators.

Of note, the DNA samples these four people were compared against:

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/CR01-24-31665/2025/060625+REDACTED+-+States+Obj+to+Defs+Offer+of+Proof+RE+Alt+Perpetrators++Evidence+iso+Offer+of+Proof.pdf

 

[arielilane]

"We were able to stop Bryan Kohberger before he committed that next crime."I sat down with Stacy Chapin and Kristen Mittelman to learn about the DNA technology that cracked the Idaho case -- and how it can be used in future cases.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1964319183900209282

 

[ilgirl]

Yes, if you recall on surveillance footage, the vehicle drove past the front of the house and must have parked somewhere, before he entered through the sliding door via the backyard.

There is in fact a retaining wall above the backyard with a little, unobserved road where he could have parked and looked straight into M's room.

It's also speculated he could have followed them on social media and worked out the layout/other occupants, but also, why not even snuck into the house previously, to learn the exact layout.

There is a fascinating discussion about all this (including his admiration for Bundy) in a long Vinnie Politan interview with Dr. Gary Brucato (not sure whether I can link, but easily found on Youtube by searching those names).

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I was just watching the interview you referred to. Dr. Brucato is one of the best, IMO. I would prefer him to interview BK, since I think he could do the most with the information gained to help in future cases. He said in this interview that he thinks their paths may cross.
JMO.

 

[gremlin444]

Where can I watch this new 20/20?

Correction: It's available on Disney+!

 

[ilovewings]

I do wonder if he had been in before.

I believe he was in that house previously

 

[PunishThenForgive]

Correction: It's available on Disney+!

Although it wasn’t available last night, the new 20/20 special is now available on Hulu, like @PinkButtercup said.

 

[ilovewings]

Although it wasn’t available last night, the new 20/20 special is now available on Hulu, like @PinkButtercup said.

Oxygen has a documentary which is showing now--- it is not nearly as good as 20/20. It was before BK pled guilty-- The documentary on 20/20 was really a tribute to the victims . It helped us get to know them- it was heart breaking to watch but it was well done. The one I am watching now (sort of watching) is really not a tribute to the victims and there is a defense attorney trying to explain how the defendant could not be guilty. Since BK pled guilty this documentary is old news. Too much emphasis on BK and not on the victims.

 

[PunishThenForgive]

Oxygen has a documentary which is showing now--- it is not nearly as good as 20/20. It was before BK pled guilty-- The documentary on 20/20 was really a tribute to the victims . It helped us get to know them- it was heart breaking to watch but it was well done. The one I am watching now (sort of watching) is really not a tribute to the victims and there is a defense attorney trying to explain how the defendant could not be guilty. Since BK pled guilty this documentary is old news. Too much emphasis on BK and not on the victims.

Thanks, @ilovewings.

It looks like Oxygen True Crime is showing the Peacock Original documentary, The Idaho Student Murders, which was created before the murderer pleaded guilty, but dropped on July 3, 2025–“less than 24 hours after [he] confessed in court to killing four coeds in the middle of the night.”

I don’t have Peacock or Oxygen, so I still haven’t seen the documentary. Others here saw it on Peacock back in July and shared your opinion, ilovewings.

For those of you who missed the recent 20/20 special and have neither Hulu nor Disney+, you can listen to the episode here:

20/20: Idaho Justice

Podcast Episode · The King Road Killings: An Idaho Murder Mystery · 09/06/2025 · 1h 24m

podcasts.apple.com

20/20: Idaho Justice

 

[Chloegirl]

Thanks, @ilovewings. I really appreciate hearing about any new documentary that drops.

For those of you who missed the recent 20/20 special and have neither Hulu nor Disney+, you can listen to the episode here:

20/20: Idaho Justice

Podcast Episode · The King Road Killings: An Idaho Murder Mystery · 09/06/2025 · 1h 24m

podcasts.apple.com

20/20: Idaho Justice

Thank you for this. I'm tired of paying repeatedly for new services.

 

[Warwick7]

Stream the latest 20/20 ‘Idaho Justice’ full episode on Hulu and Disney+ under Season 47, Episode 33.

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Thank you!!

 

[Sundog]

MSN

At the Crime Conference (Crime Con), Stacy Chapin describes when she first got the news that her son Ethan had been killed -

After hearing the news, Stacy abandoned her shopping cart and left the store. She and her husband then had to get in their car and drive for more than five hours to Moscow. Stacy and her husband picked up Ethan’s siblings from the police station and the four went to a hotel for the night. The next morning, Stacy woke up early and went out for a walk.

“I walked to the house,” Stacy said, referring to the crime scene. “My son was still there in it. And I just stood outside of it for a little bit.”

 

[LadyL]

MSN

At the Crime Conference (Crime Con), Stacy Chapin describes when she first got the news that her son Ethan had been killed -

After hearing the news, Stacy abandoned her shopping cart and left the store. She and her husband then had to get in their car and drive for more than five hours to Moscow. Stacy and her husband picked up Ethan’s siblings from the police station and the four went to a hotel for the night. The next morning, Stacy woke up early and went out for a walk.

“I walked to the house,” Stacy said, referring to the crime scene. “My son was still there in it. And I just stood outside of it for a little bit.”

soul crushing

 

[waitin'4thewrld2chg]

MSN

At the Crime Conference (Crime Con), Stacy Chapin describes when she first got the news that her son Ethan had been killed -

After hearing the news, Stacy abandoned her shopping cart and left the store. She and her husband then had to get in their car and drive for more than five hours to Moscow. Stacy and her husband picked up Ethan’s siblings from the police station and the four went to a hotel for the night. The next morning, Stacy woke up early and went out for a walk.

“I walked to the house,” Stacy said, referring to the crime scene. “My son was still there in it. And I just stood outside of it for a little bit.”

That is very sobering. Imagine a five-hour drive across a state with that news weighing on you like a cement slab. And then imagine seeing that house, which had become a temporary tomb. Tooooo much.