GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #116

[Megnut]

I doubt if he'd wear brass knuckles into Costco.

I'm confused about the timeline here, are they trying to say it was immediately after? Because I also doubt if any stores are open at 4:30 Sunday morning. The next day? Some random date after the murders?

I mean, are those marks consistently with brass knuckles? Not that he was still wearing them. He wouldn't.

This store footage is about 8 hours after the murders, 3 hours after he drove near the crime scene, then returned to his apartment, took the selfie, then drove quite a ways to shop... for something to drink.

All with also logging hours on the phone with Mother.

JMO

 

[Barbb]

I just realized the Idaho murders occurred on Nov 13 (2022) same date as the Amityville/DeFeo murders Nov 13. (1974)

Btw, I'm not saying that means anything, just noticed it. No 'paranormal' theories or anything

 

[Chloegirl]

I doubt if he'd wear brass knuckles into Costco.

I'm confused about the timeline here, are they trying to say it was immediately after? Because I also doubt if any stores are open at 4:30 Sunday morning. The next day? Some random date after the murders?

I think she means bruising from brass knuckles and not on his hands like jewelry while shopping in Costco. JMOO

I have thought this since I first saw those images of knuckles. I see evidence of injury.

He's at Costco at like 12:30pm the afternoon of the murders, so 8 hours later. This is after taking selfies at 9:30am and going back and forth between Moscow and Pullman.

His hyperactivity = ridiculous murderer trying to compensate, cover-up, get out of dodge, "act normal".

 

[realanastasia]

Thanks for the assist! ~ From what I can tell with my limited knowledge, BK may have been about 5 years old when the first American Psycho movie was released. I don't believe streaming at home was a thing yet but renting movies was. I am wondering if he had older siblings, maybe teens, maybe he saw it at an age too young to appropriately process the subject content.

I've never seen it. Is it very explicitly gory?

Not to get too far afield of the central topic of discussion, but I want to point out that the Bret Easton Ellis novel American Psycho was published in 1991, and (probably due to its author’s reputation for chronicling the zeitgeist of youth culture of the 1980s AND the brouhaha/public outrage surrounding its publication) was an international bestseller and was widely available at libraries and bookstores where BK (if he was a pleasure reader, though TBH I don’t get that impression of him AT ALL) could have encountered it. Alternatively, it seems possible that he could’ve encountered it via an an older sibling with an interest in horror films or books (an older sister has a film credit in a horror film, which might suggest that she’s at least not opposed to films with horror content).
The funniest thing to me about this discussion of BK potentially having been “inspired” by Ellis’ book (or the film versions) is that the book, per Ellis’ own description, is satirical. Patrick Bateman (the titular “psycho”) is an utterly ridiculous figure—vain, insecure, navel-gazing, neurotic—in short, superficial to the max (in the parlance of the era). It would just figure that someone like the clueless BK—lacking in empathy, oblivious to social cues, incapable of looking at anything beyond the surface level—would mistake him as a paragon of masculine virtues and seek to emulate him.

 

[OneLove]

>>>snip<<<
The funniest thing to me about this discussion of BK potentially having been “inspired” by Ellis’ book (or the film versions) is that the book, per Ellis’ own description, is satirical. Patrick Bateman (the titular “psycho”) is an utterly ridiculous figure—vain, insecure, navel-gazing, neurotic—in short, superficial to the max. >>snip<<

Hah; I think this describes BK perfectly: vain, insecure, navel-gazing, neurotic, and superficial to the max. Didnt he also think of himself as too clever to get caught? Yep; I'm more convinced than ever that Bateman was BK's hero and role model.

And thanks for the history. I wasn't aware of the book t all and would much rather read it than watch a version of it on the screen.

 

[Toniab329]

I mean, are those marks consistently with brass knuckles? Not that he was still wearing them. He wouldn't.

This store footage is about 8 hours after the murders, 3 hours after he drove near the crime scene, then returned to his apartment, took the selfie, then drove quite a ways to shop... for something to drink.

All with also logging hours on the phone with Mother.

JMO

Oh! Yes, that makes more sense. Thanks, this was the first I'd seen it heard of the Costco trip, so I had no context for it.

 

[Megnut]

Oh! Yes, that makes more sense. Thanks, this was the first I'd seen it heard of the Costco trip, so I had no context for it.

Oddly enough, BK too seemingly had no context for it.

From a suggestion uothread, perhaps he thought he could sup at the food station without a membership card? Maybe PA Costcos have that. But even then, so far from home? Sunday drive? Pinnacle of the Sunday Drive, Costco. You see that in the travel brochures (sarcasm intended). Wandering the countryside with nowhere to go, no one to see, nothing else he ought to be doing, nary a care in the world, well, until thirst overtook him? Hardly a desert, he had options. How many beverage stands did he pass up?

I gave to wonder what was normal, for him. Did he spend all of his Sundays wandering aimlessly in his maguc carpet Elantra? Where did Mother think he was? Church? Socializing? Studying? Overgrading but underscoring papers? Writing and researching his own papers? Seems the only phone he was blowing up was hers. What did he usually do on Sundays, weekends?

Or did he suddenly find himself with extra time in his hands, because he wasn't spending time grading papers anymore? No more copious criticism in the margins ... no friends ... just Mother.... and thirst.

What a ghoul.

JMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

Hah; I think this describes BK perfectly: vain, insecure, navel-gazing, neurotic, and superficial to the max. Didnt he also think of himself as too clever to get caught? Yep; I'm more convinced than ever that Bateman was BK's hero and role model.

And thanks for the history. I wasn't aware of the book t all and would much rather read it than watch a version of it on the screen.

DBM

 

[AuDHD]

JMO lol yall are rubbing off on me- I just spent a few google searches finding out “does starbucks make VEGAN bottled frappuccino drinks??” (Yes, it appears they do) “when did starbucks start making bottled vegan frappuccino drinks?” (Jan 2022)

Ok story checks out, carry on…

 

[Megnut]

JMO lol yall are rubbing off on me- I just spent a few google searches finding out “does starbucks make VEGAN bottled frappuccino drinks??” (Yes, it appears they do) “when did starbucks start making bottled vegan frappuccino drinks?” (Jan 2022)

Ok story checks out, carry on…

"And it's only available in one small market," said Never.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

Our daughter gave birth to a healthy baby boy, and I'm a grandma now, Y'all!!

It's been great being on this thread with you all, even if I don't get to keep up posting as much as I would like to.

There's always great discussion points coming up, and it's important in my mind anyway for the families and communities of the victims that we keep this thread going in their honor.

I won't be around as much for awhile but will try to check in now & then, and hope you all have a great Fall season!!

 

[angelainwi]

Our daughter gave birth to a healthy baby boy, 7 lb 7 oz, and mom and son are doing great!!

I'm a grandma now, Y'all, and my heart is soaring!!

I won't be around as much for the next month, getting ready to go overseas to meet baby, but will try to check in now & then, and hope you all have a great Fall season!!

CONGRATS!!! Being a grandma is the BEST thing ever!!

 

[LMDlong]

33 minutes ago...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1972670200630989195

Another thing that comes to my mind is that he could have been getting rid of evidence. Bathrooms have trash cans. He could have made multiple stops. And his clothing appears suspicious. IMO

 

[LMDlong]

Our daughter gave birth to a healthy baby boy, and I'm a grandma now, Y'all!!

It's been great being on this thread with you all, even if I don't get to keep up posting as much as I would like to.

There's always great discussion points coming up, and it's important in my mind anyway for the families and communities of the victims that we keep this thread going in their honor.

I won't be around as much for awhile but will try to check in now & then, and hope you all have a great Fall season!!

Congratulations. Being a Grandma is the best!

 

[Gators North]

Our daughter gave birth to a healthy baby boy, and I'm a grandma now, Y'all!!

It's been great being on this thread with you all, even if I don't get to keep up posting as much as I would like to.

There's always great discussion points coming up, and it's important in my mind anyway for the families and communities of the victims that we keep this thread going in their honor.

I won't be around as much for awhile but will try to check in now & then, and hope you all have a great Fall season!!

Congratulations!

 

[Arkay]

Our daughter gave birth to a healthy baby boy, and I'm a grandma now, Y'all!!

It's been great being on this thread with you all, even if I don't get to keep up posting as much as I would like to.

There's always great discussion points coming up, and it's important in my mind anyway for the families and communities of the victims that we keep this thread going in their honor.

I won't be around as much for awhile but will try to check in now & then, and hope you all have a great Fall season!!

Congratulations, Grandma Twisting!

I have three grandkids. One is 21 now and the other two are little. They don’t live near so I don’t see them as often as when they were little, but it sounds like you’ll be very involved! Enjoy every moment.

 

[Teche]

Our daughter gave birth to a healthy baby boy, and I'm a grandma now, Y'all!!

It's been great being on this thread with you all, even if I don't get to keep up posting as much as I would like to.

There's always great discussion points coming up, and it's important in my mind anyway for the families and communities of the victims that we keep this thread going in their honor.

I won't be around as much for awhile but will try to check in now & then, and hope you all have a great Fall season!!

Congratulations!

 

[LinasK]

Doesn't everyone and their brother know that you need a membership card to shop there? Since I think just about everyone knows that, I suspect that he was trying to sweet talk his way into the store when he stopped and was chatting up the door employee. Then that scowl on his face that we've all seen posted here was because he didn't get his (spoiled rotten) way. JMO!

So, if just about everyone knows you need a CostCo card to shop there (you actually don't need one to enter if you're there for prescriptions (I've done it multiple times), an eye exam (but need membership to buy glasses), and to purchase alcohol, although that might just be an Oregon thing since we're controlled by OLLC (Oregon Liquor Control Commission), (again, I've done it without a membership), and possibly more)...why did he want in? The only thing I can come up with is for the free food samples. JMO!

Um, in CA you now need to scan your Costco card when you walk in the door (even just for prescriptions or alcohol- never gotten an eye exam there), but you can have a guest with you. I get in with my husband's card because I gave mine to my daughter in Oregon. Our Costco is only a year old.

 

[Gemmie]

Um, in CA you now need to scan your Costco card when you walk in the door (even just for prescriptions or alcohol- never gotten an eye exam there), but you can have a guest with you. I get in with my husband's card because I gave mine to my daughter in Oregon. Our Costco is only a year old.

Sounds like you're a CostCo member so you'd need to scan your card. What I was saying is that non-members can enter the store, obviously without a member card, if they state they are picking up a prescription. They just wave me in and I hold up my prescription bag with the receipt stapled to it on my way out. I don't even need to stop.

 

[LinasK]

I doubt if he'd wear brass knuckles into Costco.

I doubt if he'd wear brass knuckles into Costco.

I'm confused about the timeline here, are they trying to say it was immediately after? Because I also doubt if any stores are open at 4:30 Sunday morning. The next day? Some random date after the murders?

No, Costco typically doesn't open until 9 or 10 in the morning. They aren't 24/7 and they close about 8pm.