Police say parents are not answering vital questions #3

[hambirg]

If people are there for the purest of intentions, why would they be worrying about public easements and if they had the right to be there when they were asked not to be? Sounds very much like a protest and creating havoc instead of a prayer vigil to me.

Same argument. . .if parents were there for the purest intentions, why would they be worrying about speaking to LE and their 5th Amendment rights? Sounds like a cover-up and creating a defense instead of trying to find their daughter and find justice for her.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

Same argument. . .if parents were there for the purest intentions, why would they be worrying about speaking to LE and their 5th Amendment rights? Sounds like a cover-up and creating a defense instead of trying to find their daughter and find justice for her.

BBM I do believe the parents live there, EF does not.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Because the people with the best intention in this case have been turned away by this family.
Law enforcement, the media, valuable resources, the community.
The Irwin/Bradley families made it sound like they could control who is in front of their house and they cannot.

Maybe a negative can be turned into the positive. Instead of being angry about the lack of effort being shown by DB/JI people can organize real prayer vigils and searches. Can someone local organize an effort to call Tim Miller and host a search by Texas Equusearch? Positive things like that perhaps.

 

[highflyer]

Nope. My kids are amazing. My oldest has consistently scored in the top 1% in the nation. She is currently being recruited by many top universities. I think MIT will be her choice. I don't have any regrets. Both the good and the bad has contributed to who she is as a person. I never sheltered her, I never censored her opinions. She had a rough year in 5th grade. But I always supported her own logical thought process. She never proved me wrong. I don't regret anything.

My kids are amazing too. Aren't everyones?

 

[indepmo]

Maybe a negative can be turned into the positive. Instead of being angry about the lack of effort being shown by DB/JI people can organize real prayer vigils and searches. Can someone local organize an effort to call Tim Miller and host a search by Texas Equusearch? Positive things like that perhaps.

Trust me when I say this...
Professional search teams are all over the Kansas City metropolitan area, as well as several areas within a 50-100 mile radius.

The family and their associates have been presented with opportunities for such efforts by trained professionals.

I contacted Texas Equusearch in regards to training for a local organization a few years back. They are great people and it would be great to see them here.

The "general code of conduct" that has always been presented to us in our training for SAR to become involved is for the family of the missing person(s) to put in a request to law enforcement in the jurisdiction of the missing person(s).

 

[hambirg]

Oh. I'm sorry I misunderstood. But can't everyone have their own opinion about that subject?

Yes, as long as it's logical. You can't say one thing and then say the other. They asked for the vigils to stop because of her, then they didn't pay any attention to her and she wasn't even on their radar. It has to be one or the other. So which is it?

 

[hambirg]

My kids are amazing too. Aren't everyones?

I couldn't agree with you more. I think they all are. So why aren't the parents out there answering LE's questions trying to bring home their amazing child?

I have complete and total faith that God had some special purpose planned for Lisa. It's so sad that this world may never benefit from that.

 

[hambirg]

BBM I do believe the parents live there, EF does not.

I'm confused. Please clarify what you are saying.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Trust me when I say this...
Professional search teams are all over the Kansas City metropolitan area, as well as several areas within a 50-100 mile radius.

The family and their associates have been presented with opportunities for such efforts by trained professionals.

I contacted Texas Equusearch in regards to training for a local organization a few years back. They are great people and it would be great to see them here.

The "general code of conduct" that has always been presented to us in our training for SAR to become involved is for the family of the missing person(s) to put in a request to law enforcement in the jurisdiction of the missing person(s).

BBM
Perhaps the "general code of conduct" needs to be changed. If the family of a missing person is responsible for the disappearance and doesn't want them found, is it fair to the missing person that SAR resources won't be utilized for lack of a family request?

 

[In da Middle]

The parents cooperating or not, there are two little boys that I care about that don't need people having a protest and raising havoc in their yard. Adults should be considerate of the children that are suffering whether they like what the their parents are acting or not. It seems like the adults are the ones acting childish - parents and protesters.

 

[Jacie Estes]

Swope Park where the zoo is ....more well known. Penn Valley Park. More well known. But most popular and known in the Northland.

Never took our son to Swope Park but he loved Penguin Park.

 

[deoneta]

I've seen people chastized for suggesting DB might have a drinking problem (adult time 2 or three times a week not as disruptive as vigils two or three times a week), for suggesting DB was changing her stories or being neglectful for not checking on a sick baby for hours becasue "we just don't know" the situation. I didn't know there were so many mental health professionals here. Now Edith is being characterized as mentally ill? Good grief. All MOO.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

I'm confused. Please clarify what you are saying.

Exactly what it sounds like, the parents have every right to be in their home with their family, EF has no rights to be there.

 

[highflyer]

Because the people with the best intention in this case have been turned away by this family.
Law enforcement, the media, valuable resources, the community.
The Irwin/Bradley families made it sound like they could control who is in front of their house and they cannot.

That's a chilling statement.

 

[indepmo]

The parents cooperating or not, there are two little boys that I care about that don't need people having a protest and raising havoc in their yard. Adults should be considerate of the children that are suffering whether they like what the their parents are acting or not. It seems like the adults are the ones acting childish - parents and protesters.

(IMO) I think there are two parents that should be considerate to one particular child that may be suffering. Lisa.

MOO I don't know if these two boys are suffering. Maybe they wanted to go outside and pray. I still don't see these as protests, sorry. Someone would have been jailed or the police would have been called. That never happened.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

(IMO) I think there are two parents that should be considerate to one particular child that may be suffering. Lisa.

MOO I don't know if these two boys are suffering. Maybe they wanted to go outside and pray. I still don't see these as protests, sorry. Someone would have been jailed or the police would have been called. That never happened.

Could also be the two boys would like to go outside and play but their yard is full of strangers, some of whom could be responsible for Lisa's disappearance. We just don't know.

 

[Jacie Estes]

If people are there for the purest of intentions, why would they be worrying about public easements and if they had the right to be there when they were asked not to be? Sounds very much like a protest and creating havoc instead of a prayer vigil to me.

Can't understand why SOME peeps have to stand out in front of the house on your street when they could go to Crown Center and get a lot more coverage.

Your dogs and the neighbor's dogs might like the 'march'. If I didn't have to drive 14 hours through snow and icy roads, I'd bring my 3 dogs down.

 

[In da Middle]

(IMO) I think there are two parents that should be considerate to one particular child that may be suffering. Lisa.

MOO I don't know if these two boys are suffering. Maybe they wanted to go outside and pray. I still don't see these as protests, sorry. Someone would have been jailed or the police would have been called. That never happened.

People inquiring as to their rights to be unwanted on somebody's property when they have been asked to not be there is peaceful? How is that peaceful? How is that considered a prayer vigil?

 

[Jacie Estes]

(imo) i think there are two parents that should be considerate to one particular child that may be suffering. Lisa.

Moo i don't know if these two boys are suffering. Maybe they wanted to go outside and pray. I still don't see these as protests, sorry. Someone would have been jailed or the police would have been called. that never happened.

yet...

 

[Jacie Estes]

People inquiring as to their rights to be unwanted on somebody's property when they have been asked to not be there is peaceful? How is that peaceful? How is that considered a prayer vigil?

The obvious answer is IT"S NOT. But then peeps who will go, at night, to someone's door unannounced or uninvited and then get mad when they don't get inside don't know that. Also yelling 'roll cameras' to media isn't too cool either.
IMHO