Poll: If an R confessed, would you accept it?

[Chrishope]

just a question,
would you accept it if police found a match for that touch dna and it wasn´t any of the R´s ?
(not telling the R´s did not do it) just a question

Of course, what choice is there but to accept evidence?

As others have pointed out, this "someone else" doesn't necessarily have to be the killer, and if he is the killer, he didn't necessarily work alone.

For me, a match to the touch dna, and evidence that the "someone" was in Boulder at the time, would be reasonable doubt, and I could not find the Rs guilty, were I on a jury.

 

[DIRK SCHILLER]

For those who want to see the Ramseys just before Patsy's death... New Hope TV recently posted the full one hour interview from Hawaii given just a short time before Patsy died. Lots of grist here for those who are fascinated by body language and word choice...

Part 1 is here, and Part 2 can be reached on the page: Connecting Point: John & Patsy Ramsey Part I on Vimeo

are they not wearing wedding rings?

 

[Flatlander]

In order for the remaining RDI confession to take place I believe there would have to be a D.A. that was well equipped to carry the case forward. If the Ramseys covered up the circumstances of JB's death, they won't drop their cover-up and tell what happened unless they're faced with prosecutors determined to throw them in prison :jail: for as many years as possible, or at least prepared to act like they are.
So a deal that would resolve the case is this: a quilty plea to a felony count of evidence tampering, a recommendation for leniency, and the truth of what happened that night (or as much of it as prosecutors can get), in return for no or short prison terms and the right to keep what's left of the family together - no matter what happened that night. :banghead:
The Ramsey's haven't come forward to date; so why now?
But I would be interested in knowing more about Nathan Inouye, his DNA and whereabouts on 12/25/96.

 

[DeeDee249]

In order for the remaining RDI confession to take place I believe there would have to be a D.A. that was well equipped to carry the case forward. If the Ramseys covered up the circumstances of JB's death, they won't drop their cover-up and tell what happened unless they're faced with prosecutors determined to throw them in prison :jail: for as many years as possible, or at least prepared to act like they are.
So a deal that would resolve the case is this: a quilty plea to a felony count of evidence tampering, a recommendation for leniency, and the truth of what happened that night (or as much of it as prosecutors can get), in return for no or short prison terms and the right to keep what's left of the family together - no matter what happened that night. :banghead:
The Ramsey's haven't come forward to date; so why now?
But I would be interested in knowing more about Nathan Inouye, his DNA and whereabouts on 12/25/96.

I am sure they'd have to have tested him against that DNA.

 

[LinasK]

Depends on which R confessed, if John, then Yes because I believe he did it- if it was Burke who confessed, or any of the other siblings, I'd say No, it was a false confession, that they're falling on their sword for John...

 

[Tadpole12]

In order for the remaining RDI confession to take place I believe there would have to be a D.A. that was well equipped to carry the case forward. If the Ramseys covered up the circumstances of JB's death, they won't drop their cover-up and tell what happened unless they're faced with prosecutors determined to throw them in prison :jail: for as many years as possible, or at least prepared to act like they are.
So a deal that would resolve the case is this: a quilty plea to a felony count of evidence tampering, a recommendation for leniency, and the truth of what happened that night (or as much of it as prosecutors can get), in return for no or short prison terms and the right to keep what's left of the family together - no matter what happened that night. :banghead:
The Ramsey's haven't come forward to date; so why now?
But I would be interested in knowing more about Nathan Inouye, his DNA and whereabouts on 12/25/96.

Heyya Flatlander,

NI, as suspect,

http://jonbenetramsey.pbworks.com/w/page/11682529/Worked for Ramsey Family
Exculpatory Evidence Favoring Nathan Inouye

• Alibi. However, Nathan reported in a private email being home with his family in California during Christmas 1996 and Bluecrab has offered no evidence to the contrary despite being pressed repeatedly for this information over many years.

• Already Investigated by DA? Bruce Levin point-blank asked Patsy Ramsey in the 2000 Atlanta interviews(316:9-25; 317:1-11) for contact info on Nathan Inouye and was assured by Lin Wood this would be forthcoming.

 

[LinasK]

How did 4 of PR's fibers end up on the duct tape if the tape was brought by the intruder?:waitasec:

More important to me- How did John's shirt fibers get inside JB's panties??? I don't buy the laundry explanation...:snooty:

 

[DeeDee249]

More important to me- How did John's shirt fibers get inside JB's panties??? I don't buy the laundry explanation...:snooty:

JR's shirt was wool- it wouldn't have been laundered. JB's panties were fresh of the package and had never been laundered.
So the way I see it, JR had to have handled those panties, either pulling them on her, taking them out of the package or both.

 

[UKGuy]

JR's shirt was wool- it wouldn't have been laundered. JB's panties were fresh of the package and had never been laundered.
So the way I see it, JR had to have handled those panties, either pulling them on her, taking them out of the package or both.

DeeDee249,
Absolutely, this places JR at the scene of the crime, in such an intimate manner, suggesting it was JR who redressed JonBenet.

With Patsy's fibers embedded into the knotting of the garrote and under the duct-tape, she also is located at the scene of the crime.

So curiously the evidence suggests it was Patsy who came up with the EA staging and JR who cleaned up and redressed JonBenet?

That is PDI, if we can work that out, how come BPD failed, why no charges, not even the usual holding charges, something smells here.



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[Flatlander]

Heyya Flatlander,

NI, as suspect,

http://jonbenetramsey.pbworks.com/w/page/11682529/Worked for Ramsey Family
Exculpatory Evidence Favoring Nathan Inouye

• Alibi. However, Nathan reported in a private email being home with his family in California during Christmas 1996 and Bluecrab has offered no evidence to the contrary despite being pressed repeatedly for this information over many years.

• Already Investigated by DA? Bruce Levin point-blank asked Patsy Ramsey in the 2000 Atlanta interviews(316:9-25; 317:1-11) for contact info on Nathan Inouye and was assured by Lin Wood this would be forthcoming.

Lin Wood said a lot of things but she also let the Ramseys get through the loop hole. So since Lin Wood stated this in 2000 do you know of any follow-up in regards to Nathan?

 

[DeeDee249]

Lin Wood said a lot of things but she also let the Ramseys get through the loop hole. So since Lin Wood stated this in 2000 do you know of any follow-up in regards to Nathan?

Probably a typo, but Lin Wood is a he.

 

[Flatlander]

Thanks DeeDee,
I do that alot. You are correct Wood is a he not a she.

 

[UKGuy]

More important to me- How did John's shirt fibers get inside JB's panties??? I don't buy the laundry explanation...:snooty:

LinasK,
What laundry explanation? JonBenet's size-12's never saw any laundry, they were clean on her the day she was killed!

 

[sandover]

LinasK,
What laundry explanation? JonBenet's size-12's never saw any laundry, they were clean on her the day she was killed!

UKGuy, was the sweater whose fibers were on JB's crotch ever found?

 

[Junebug99]

The underwear she had worn previously that night had been laundered, fibers could have been left behind that way. You guys also claim that JBR hardly ever bathed, so those fibers could haven been there via the laundry for a couple of days.

 

[UKGuy]

UKGuy, was the sweater whose fibers were on JB's crotch ever found?

sandover,
Yes, the fibers matched those from an Israeli manufactured woolen shirt handed over by JR.



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[UKGuy]

The underwear she had worn previously that night had been laundered, fibers could have been left behind that way. You guys also claim that JBR hardly ever bathed, so those fibers could haven been there via the laundry for a couple of days.

Junebug99,

The underwear she had worn previously that night

What underwear is this. Which evidence list are you referring to?

How do you know what underwear JonBenet was wearing prior to the size-12's, not even Patsy Ramsey knew that. All she said was she would have noticed if she had not been wearing any.

Patsy Ramsey is on record stating that she assisted JonBenet to wash and dress for the White's party. She just never noticed what underwear she was wearing.

The underwear she had worn previously that night had been laundered, fibers could have been left behind that way.

Even if what you suggest was true what is JonBenet's fathers shirt fibers doing in her underwear anyway? His shirt at this point would be upstairs , clean, and waiting to be used, duh!



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[DeeDee249]

The underwear she had worn previously that night had been laundered, fibers could have been left behind that way. You guys also claim that JBR hardly ever bathed, so those fibers could haven been there via the laundry for a couple of days.

The underwear on JB's body was NOT laundered previously. It was determined to be fresh and new out of the package, as was the REST of the 6 pairs sent by the Rs to LE five years later, still NEW in the package .
JR's shirt was a wool shirt and had never been laundered.
Neither garment had ever been in the laundry.

That shoots this right down.

NO one here claims JB never bathed. Her own MOTHER said in her interviews with police that JB didn't like to wash her hands or take a bath.

 

[BBB167893]

Wow, just...OMG, wow. While in some instances those laws may have harmed LE, they offer protection and rights to the accused. I remember being outraged back in the 70s when some murderer was released from prison due to a technical error in his trial. My father, retired Marine colonel and fairly conservative, pointed out to me that if we don't make the police follow the rules then the police can make whatever rules they want!

It can't be ok for the police to come into your house and see something illegal, then go back to the police station and issue a warrant for your arrest for that illegal thing.

That would be one thing, jaded cat. What I'm talking about is something different entirely. Making police follow rules is different from restricting them in their normal duties. The Warren Court's decisions were based on extreme politics rather than reality.

Look how many people are being released from prison because of faulty convictions. DNA has been the biggest boon to LE since the invention of the thrown rock.

Just so. At the same time, not all of those released on DNA are truly innocent. It's more of a technicality.

I don't want to live where the police have the right to stack the deck against me.

Same here! But equally, I see no benefit in the deck being stacked for the criminals. And that's the key here. The rules are meant to protect the innocent from abuses. But they've gone to protecting the guilty from justice.

I'm also quite certain the BPD used whatever means necessary to get info from the not-rich. Police will lie. My BiL is a police officer in a small town SE of us. I mentioned once that if I was ever arrested for something serious, I would immediately ask for a lawyer. He grinned real big and told me, as far as he was concerned, I was guilty. WTF? Because I asked for my lawyer?

That's his personal opinion, jaded cat. As a practical matter, he's not allowed to make that inference.

 

[Noodles]

I would love to know what the pediatrician Dr Beuf knows. Well, if he would tell the truth. What was it ---- something like 33 visits to him in the last three years of JB's life? I bet he's a treasure trove.

P.S. Not to mention, he was one of the first people called wasnt he? Along with their pastor? Guess I should say ALLEGEDLY here because we dont have any phone records...lol.