Maybe no-one is talking about it because they all like Mali.
Porepunkah shooting: Two officers dead and another wounded after shooting at High Country property, Victoria, Australia
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How lucky I am to have folks who remind me of the qualities I lack, like empathy and consideration.. I just never thought of that angle, K!! a perfectly good explanation!
It is reasonable to claim that she, the wife , knows all about the warrant... or.. is it reasonable? to think that?? I think it is, but...... and probably the 15yr old son knows, too .,???
I think the warrant is the reason for these deaths of these 2 policemen, and the attempted death of the third.. Freeman does not want to face the consequences of this particular charge , it relegates him to scorn and obscurity, and even he with his 'vast knowledge' of the legal mechanics , would be hard put to represent himself on such a charge.
Freeman loses all his credibility with what he might term his 'followers'... he thinks he has quite a few, .... What I don't understand is , how come the police did not grasp how he would react to this ( as he sees it ) dismantling and the destruction of his whole persona, the tuff guy, the fixer, the builder, the bushman, the go -to man, the helper and so on...
They were serving a warrant on his entire facade that he had carefully built up over decades.....
Freeman loses all his credibility with what he might term his 'followers'... he thinks he has quite a few, .... What I don't understand is , how come the police did not grasp how he would react to this ( as he sees it ) dismantling and the destruction of his whole persona, the tuff guy, the fixer, the builder, the bushman, the go -to man, the helper and so on...
They were serving a warrant on his entire facade that he had carefully built up over decades.....
I wonder why it took Mali so long to go to the Police station to show that she wasn’t a hostage? It took her 12 hours to let Police know that she was safe. I think there is something not quite right there.
“On Tuesday night, some 12 hours after the shooting, Ms Freeman voluntarily attended a police station after police had been unable to find her and her children.”
“On Tuesday night, some 12 hours after the shooting, Ms Freeman voluntarily attended a police station after police had been unable to find her and her children.”
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One of the news items earlier said that the police asked her to come forward.
To me it does sound like she did come forward when she was asked to.
But also to me, I would think voluntary means coming forward without being asked.
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To me it does sound like she did come forward when she was asked to.
But also to me, I would think voluntary means coming forward without being asked.
Have I confused anyone yet, I know I have confused me
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Sitting here, cosied up, in another state, on a rainy windy night where it's now 3.7 degrees, I'm thinking of all law enforcement and all others connected with this case who are out in the elements just trying to make the community safe.
Hoping they all keep safe.
Hoping they all keep safe.
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I find the 12-hour delay odd also. Furthermore, being in a relationship for well over a decade usually means you're at least somewhat aligned with your partner’s beliefs, especially if those beliefs are very extreme.
Mali's lifestyle; homeschooling, teaching music, embracing herbalism, and living on the fringes of conventional society certainly suggests a countercultural, “alternative living” mindset. Such environments can sometimes attract dominant or charismatic individuals, like Desmond Freeman/Filby, where cult-like dynamics might emerge. It’s also unfortunately true that isolated or alternative communities can be fraught with abuse allegations.
I sincerely hope her eventual contact with police was an act of escape from coercion rather than a sign of complicity.
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I have some questions.
10 officers attended Dezi's home to execute a search warrant on the morning of August 26th (Tuesday).
According to the 7news report quoted above, Mali was at the property, possibly in the bus when one of the officers was shot.
Dezi fled the scene (while allegedly shooting another two officers), but what happened next? Mali was already there, where did she go?
Initial reports said that it was suspected Dezi had taken his family hostage. Then they said that Mali and her children attended a police station on Tuesday evening.
“Police have accounted for the whereabouts of the suspect’s family with his partner and children attending a police station this evening,” a statement read. “There is nothing to suggest they were ever in the company of the suspect following today’s incident.”
Rayner Track is a dead end road.
I just find it weird. Apparently she has a baby or toddler "under the age of two", so it's not like she could easily escape through the bush. Did she stay with other residents of the property? I mean, where the hell did she go that police didn't know her whereabouts until she presented herself on Tuesday evening?
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I read both of these things early on in the caseInterestingly The Age has gone with publishing the journalist intel from question time at the presser today, despite the commissioner’s attempt to shut the question down….
So “allegedly”
- Concerns have also been raised about Freeman’s firearms licence, which was repeatedly removed and returned to him, as new details emerge about Tuesday’s police shooting.
- Freeman allegedly blasted Detective Leading Senior Constable Neal Thompson with a home-made shotgun through the door of a bus he was living in near Porepunkah.
Porepunkah police shooting as it happened: Search for Dezi Freeman impacted by blizzard conditions; ‘sovereign citizen’s’ wife and son arrested
Alleged gunman Dezi Freeman remains on the run, heavily armed and with nothing to lose. Follow our live coverage.www.theage.com.au
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Overnight there were fierce winds, rain, hail and snow.
www.abc.net.au
Porepunkah wakes up to fifth day of manhunt
This is the scene in Porepunkah on Saturday morning.Overnight there were fierce winds, rain, hail and snow.
Live: Authorities navigate rough weather as Dezi Freeman manhunt enters fifth day
The search for alleged Porepunkah gunman Dezi Freeman is now in its fifth day amid predictions of storms across Victoria.
www.abc.net.au
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This article speaks of a text message exchange (obtained by the Herald Sun), between Filby and his family, where he speaks of his hatred of police.
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"Speaking near the Chandler Court address on Friday, Marlie Thomas said Freeman had become more withdrawn in the days before the fatal shootings.
She attends the local Our Lady of Snows Catholic church alongside Freeman and his wife.
"We knew he was withdrawing a little bit," she told AAP.
"We said, 'we've got to keep a closer eye on him'."
She urged Freeman to "please come in, hand yourself in". "
www.seymourtelegraph.com.au
She attends the local Our Lady of Snows Catholic church alongside Freeman and his wife.
"We knew he was withdrawing a little bit," she told AAP.
"We said, 'we've got to keep a closer eye on him'."
She urged Freeman to "please come in, hand yourself in". "
Accused cop killer became 'withdrawn' before shooting
A concerned friend of a heavily armed fugitive wanted over the shooting deaths of two police officers says he had recently became withdrawn, and urged him to surrend...
www.seymourtelegraph.com.au
It makes me wonder how prepared he was. He had an immense hatred for police so its likely he knew how they operate and was quite well prepared for such an ordeal.
My guess is he's left the scene.
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To quote his local priest, who was aware of some of his beliefs after seeing him at church nearly every Sunday, Mr Freeman "absolutely cracked".
The local priest, Father Tony Shallue, says that after a statue at the church was vandalised, Mr Freeman was the one who helped to fix it.
"I knew he was a bit anti-authority, but a lot of people are," says Fr Shallue.
"But I've never encountered him as someone who would do that. It's a shock."
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Protected from the rain by a well-used Drizabone and a bushman's hat, Stephen Mallett is an ex-bikie who knows Mr Freeman from a Facebook group dedicated to preparing for the apocalypse.
No matter how he identifies, Mr Mallett admits he has a similar way of thinking to people like Mr Freeman.
"The nutters are going to jump on this, but a nutter he wasn't," he says.
Mr Mallett also does not like police, nor does he believe in select hate crime laws.
He loathes that police, as he puts it, "can dress in black with their jackboots and put roadblocks on the side of the road and put dogs on people" while a physical gesture like a Nazi salute is a crime.
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More at link about Filby's arsenal of weapons (and his shooting range for practise), as per a friend who has seen them " ... high-powered rifles and he had military rifles"
www.abc.net.au
The local priest, Father Tony Shallue, says that after a statue at the church was vandalised, Mr Freeman was the one who helped to fix it.
"I knew he was a bit anti-authority, but a lot of people are," says Fr Shallue.
"But I've never encountered him as someone who would do that. It's a shock."
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Protected from the rain by a well-used Drizabone and a bushman's hat, Stephen Mallett is an ex-bikie who knows Mr Freeman from a Facebook group dedicated to preparing for the apocalypse.
No matter how he identifies, Mr Mallett admits he has a similar way of thinking to people like Mr Freeman.
"The nutters are going to jump on this, but a nutter he wasn't," he says.
Mr Mallett also does not like police, nor does he believe in select hate crime laws.
He loathes that police, as he puts it, "can dress in black with their jackboots and put roadblocks on the side of the road and put dogs on people" while a physical gesture like a Nazi salute is a crime.
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More at link about Filby's arsenal of weapons (and his shooting range for practise), as per a friend who has seen them " ... high-powered rifles and he had military rifles"
Dezi Freeman: the church-going, gun-owning bushman on the loose
The alleged actions of Dezi Freeman, accused of shooting dead two police officers, reveal a tiny town fraying over anti-authoritarian ideology taken to its unthinkable extreme.
www.abc.net.au
Another cold and windy day around the Punks.. Cloudy. Very high chance of showers in the south, medium chance elsewhere. Snow falling above 800 metres. Damaging winds possible in the south. Winds southwesterly 25 to 35 km/h decreasing to 15 to 25 km/h in the late afternoon then becoming west to southwesterly and light in the late evening. Daytime maximum temperatures between 4 and 12.
Unless he has access to a car, he's on foot, keeping off the roads, and the old rail track, too, it's always full of walkers ( it's a terrific walk, also a bike track Wang to Bright ) keeping away from farms and plantations.... in his old wet tracksuit pants and no hat or gloves.... uncomfy springs to mind.,...
Unless he has access to a car, he's on foot, keeping off the roads, and the old rail track, too, it's always full of walkers ( it's a terrific walk, also a bike track Wang to Bright ) keeping away from farms and plantations.... in his old wet tracksuit pants and no hat or gloves.... uncomfy springs to mind.,...
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