Porepunkah shooting: Two officers dead and another wounded after shooting at High Country property, Victoria, Australia

[Absoluterubbish]

Imagine the poor officer injured, lying under the bus, waiting for help, in pain, with his 2 colleagues dead near by not knowing where the gun man was...............must have been so scary.

And the alleged shooter's wife did not offer any first aid either...................

What a pair of ...................

As well as the other 7 officers that ran for cover knowing their colleagues had been killed or maimed

 

[Marg944]

Weary police hunting suspected cop killer on route to Melbourne to honour fallen colleagues​

“Three buses have been sent to the command centre in Ovens to take police officers home for the funeral of Senior Constable Vadim de Waart-Hottart.

Senior Constable de Waart-Hottart was allegedly shot dead alongside detective Leading Senior Constable Neal Thompson by suspected fugitive cop killer Dezi Freeman.

The fallen officers will be honoured with services to be held at the Victoria Police academy at Glen Waverley on Friday and Monday morning.

Senior Constable de Waart-Hottart will be honoured on Friday morning with the service to commence at 11am.

Two buses (one pictured below) filled with dozens of police and have just left Ovens on route to Melbourne for the funeral.

Replacement police are on the scene with more specialist police to hit the ground on Saturday.
Both services will commence at 11am and will be followed by a police guard of honour exiting the main academy gates and turning right down View Mount Road towards Ferntree Gully Road.”

Sad photo exposes why police officers are leaving the search for Dezi

Follow Daily Mail's coverage here.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Trooper]

Poor Filby's ............we all crack jokes about the mad uncle at the Xmas dinner, but they had the real thing.....

It's not as if Dez was a disabled brick maker from some poor 4th world country, he had medical coverage from the cradle to his ( possibly imminent ) grave, he had free schooling, good schooling in world terms till he was 21 if he chose, ( he left school at 13 ) he had anywhere in Australia to choose to live and he lived in a very lovely place, temperate climate, good shopping, home grown produce, terrific world class cheeses, some of the best wines produced in the country, snow resorts up the road, he never heard a shot fired in anger in his whole life.

He was never drafted into any army and made to be on the front line , he could have been anything , the world was his oyster . He lived in a place where he could vote a Govt out every 4 years. . He lived in a very progressive state government run county.. he had a hell of a lot of safety nets, more than most countries have. He never missed a meal in his life.

But he made up this fantasy about being persecuted by nameless dismorphic entities and armed himself accordingly...

 

[drsleuth]

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/inside-the-chestnut-farm-where-dezi-freeman-found-refuge/news-story/3082b4ffc4a1a69e6bd16f51eb239d31?amp

Inside the Chestnut farm where Dezi Freeman found refuge​

On a Porepunkah chestnut farm, alleged cop killer Dezi Freeman lived among travellers harvesting orchards for board before vanishing into Victoria’s rugged high country.

Mohammad Alfares

September 4, 2025 - 5:30PM

 

[Detective Willy]

IMO he knows he will never be a free man again and will try to go out in a blaze of glory. My prediction is that he will want death by cop and will never surrender unless they capture him sleeping.

 

[Trooper]

IMO he knows he will never be a free man again and will try to go out in a blaze of glory. My prediction is that he will want death by cop and will never surrender unless they capture him sleeping.

It would not surprise me to find that Des has been 'working' on his ' defence' like a maniac, one ridiculous claim after another, and like Gerard Baden-Clay, believes deep in his bowels that he can 'argue' with high falutin legal babble his way right out of it.

 

[Marg944]

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/inside-the-chestnut-farm-where-dezi-freeman-found-refuge/news-story/3082b4ffc4a1a69e6bd16f51eb239d31?amp

Inside the Chestnut farm where Dezi Freeman found refuge​

On a Porepunkah chestnut farm, alleged cop killer Dezi Freeman lived among travellers harvesting orchards for board before vanishing into Victoria’s rugged high country.

Mohammad Alfares

September 4, 2025 - 5:30PM

Well, well! Very interesting!!

The property owner, Andrew Swift must be an expert on the local minefields - he had prepared a comprehensive report for Heritage Victoria -

if Dezi had access to this report, and could follow a map - he would be one lucky person!

https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0034/718657/LiDAR_Buckland-Case-Study-Report.pdf

 

[drsleuth]

Well, well! Very interesting!!

The property owner, Andrew Swift must be an expert on the local minefields - he had prepared a comprehensive report for Heritage Victoria -

if Dezi had access to this report, and could follow a map - he would be one lucky person!

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https://www.heritage.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0034/718657/LiDAR_Buckland-Case-Study-Report.pdf

Interesting!

Another couple of points of interest

The Swifts have have a cabin outpost that was built for visitors, with arrangements in place to task them with harvesting chestnuts from the estate’s orchards and maintaining the grounds. They purchased the property in 2016

The Freeman's / Filby's were "invited" to live on the property following the Covis lockdowns

Up to 8 individuals living on the property at any given time.

The Swift's have gone into hiding

Sources close to Freeman’s estranged wife, Amalia, say the mother of three was considering leaving her spouse even if he comes out of the manhunt alive.

BBM - Estranged??? But considering leaving him??

Did the Freeman's / Filby's live rent free?

 

[Marg944]

The farm is known as Four Gully Farm - and they sold their produce at markets nearby.



July, 2025

 

[Trooper]

Wages for picking chestnuts in Australia are based on the Horticulture Award, with adult casuals paid at least $30.35 per hour from 1 July 2025, and this rate must be guaranteed even if piece rates are offered. Under a piece rate, a competent worker must earn a minimum of $34.90 per hour (the casual hourly rate plus 15%). You can find the exact minimum rate for your situation on the Fair Work Ombudsman's Pay and Conditions Tool.

• Piece Rate:
  If you are paid a piece rate, it must be set so that a competent worker, working at the average productivity, earns at least 15% more than the minimum hourly casual rate.
  
  
• Guaranteed Minimum:
  Even if you are paid a piece rate, your employer must guarantee that you earn at least the minimum casual hourly wage for the hours worked.

The average annual salary for Picker jobs in Australia ranges from $65,000 to $70,000.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

It doesn't make it clear if his wife was considering leaving him before the shooting, or just since it's happened.

Also someone can be estranged and still live at the same place.

 

[3llecia]

From that article, it sounds as though Filby had fully plunged into the conspiracy theorist world by Christmas 2018.
As he is said (by his nephew) to have spent that Christmas regurgitating fanatical views about religion, doomsday theories, and an impending apocalypse, to his extended family who had grown weary of hearing about it.

Remember that Qanon was happening around 2016-2017, not to mention the rise in bot armies and foreign political interference campaigns on Facebook and Twitter by Russia and China.

Nothing has really been done about it. Social media and tech giants have largely succeeded in escaping content regulation, despite becoming playgrounds for the most despicable crimes against democracy and humanity.

Qanon and foreign political campaigns all targeted disenfranchised men and women with Christian beliefs and fuelled distrust in government via conspiracy theories.

It’s tragically ironic that these people find conspiracies that seem to validate their feelings of distrust in authority, when they were (and are) just pawns in the modern global political machine.

 

[Trooper]

I don't know much about guns, but taking it for granted that both, all , these policemen were shot with Dez's home made weapon.. ( he took the police Smith and Wessons on his way out ) could he make one that fires quickly? that quickly? that the second police had no time to duck, and/ or would that have to be a case of Dez having 2 guns, both loaded, one on him for the doorway and one propped up, loaded and unlocked ready to fire from the window?

I am just trying to work out the mechanics of it. Plus, of course, the third shot, we assume only 3 shots but we don't know that for sure. Or, a second shooter?

 

[Trooper]

I am presuming the guns that Dez took from the policemen's dead body were Smith and Wesson because that is what is regularly issued to VICPOL< I think NSW POL are issued with Glocks , what number I don't know ( since I looked it up, now I know NSW is issued both S @ W and Glock )

VICPOL
Smith & Wesson M&P semi-automatic pistol Each operational officer is armed with a semiautomatic handgun. The .40 calibre gun has a 15-round magazine capacity. Potential for misuse: Can be used to threat or to force compliance if drawn. Dangers to public: Penetrative injuries, particularly head, neck and torso trauma, death, (lethal).

NSWPOL
The NSW Police Force currently issues several types of firearms, including:

• Glock 22 Pistol: A semi-automatic pistol commonly used by NSW Police officers.
  https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=8f7a...3cvd2VhcG9ucy11c2VkLWJ5LW5zdy1wb2xpY2Uv&ntb=1
• Smith & Wesson Revolvers: Previously issued, but have been replaced by Glock pistols.
  https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=d49c...cnMtb2YtdGhlLXBvbGljZS1maXJlYXJtLmh0bWw&ntb=1

( could Des make a semi automatic weapon? ) this is Dez we are talking about, not a skilled ironmonger or steelworker...

 

[essareem]

I don't know much about guns, but taking it for granted that both, all , these policemen were shot with Dez's home made weapon.. ( he took the police Smith and Wessons on his way out ) could he make one that fires quickly? that quickly? that the second police had no time to duck, and/ or would that have to be a case of Dez having 2 guns, both loaded, one on him for the doorway and one propped up, loaded and unlocked ready to fire from the window?

I am just trying to work out the mechanics of it. Plus, of course, the third shot, we assume only 3 shots but we don't know that for sure. Or, a second shooter?

Agreed, if it was a home made shotgun like they say, it's hard to imagine how he succeeded. Even a normal double barrel is two shots then reload. How on earth he managed to shoot three officers without return fire through a flimsy bus, I don't know. You could say one shot hit two of the officers, it is a shotgun after all. So he shot at least twice. According to the reports once through the bus door, then managed to open the bus window and shoot again. No return fire? I just don't understand. You could say maybe he was holding Mali hostage, but - and I don't really know this for sure - I would think if being shot at / hit, the police would return fire regardless of a hostage... correct?

There's two things that I keep thinking about on this case - the above and how / where Mali and her two children got away without being apprehended.

 

[Trooper]

The bombshell being, Marli is thinking of leaving Dez.. in the immortal words of Mandy Rice Davies, famous British escort 'she would say that, wouldn't she'....

 

[essareem]

It is. As you said very formative.

Wanna have a go at paraphrasing it ?

Oh boy, I just finished a 12 hour day on a project. I will give it a go tomorrow if nobody else does

 

[TootsieFootsie]

It doesn't make it clear if his wife was considering leaving him before the shooting, or just since it's happened.

Seems to answer my question.

Dezi Freeman's wife makes bombshell confession

Dezi Freeman's wife made a shock confession, Daily Mail Australia understands.

www.dailymail.co.uk

"The wife of Dezi Freeman is considering leaving her spouse after he allegedly gunned down two police officers and escaped into bushland, prompting a 10-day search "

 

[Marg944]

Police have served a search warrant to search Dezi Freeman’s house - so they can now check his electronic devices as well as search for any information to back up any charges.

Old mine shafts that have been cleared by special police….

 

[essareem]

Agreed, if it was a home made shotgun like they say, it's hard to imagine how he succeeded. Even a normal double barrel is two shots then reload. How on earth he managed to shoot three officers without return fire through a flimsy bus, I don't know. You could say one shot hit two of the officers, it is a shotgun after all. So he shot at least twice. According to the reports once through the bus door, then managed to open the bus window and shoot again. No return fire? I just don't understand. You could say maybe he was holding Mali hostage, but - and I don't really know this for sure - I would think if being shot at / hit, the police would return fire regardless of a hostage... correct?

There's two things that I keep thinking about on this case - the above and how / where Mali and her two children got away without being apprehended.

Ah, I forgot to add - according to reports, after shooting the police officers through the bus door / out the bus window, he's not just bolted away. He's gone out of the bus, to the bodies and taken their service weapons.

Like I said, I can't wrap my head around it. Is he Superman? The Flash?