Prosecutors have new material and information that they dont want released to the pub

[RR0004]

That may be what this is all about. Perhaps the defense did indeed provide that information and upon checking it out, Le discovered it was true. Perhaps they need to protect Kc. Just speculating. Moo

...sorry that doesn't explain why the defense wouldn't be there especially if they were the ones to provide the info in the first place. Protect Casey from what? She's in jail.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

There's always been something very strange about DC searching the woods off Suburban near where Caylee's remains were eventually found. Cindy's confession that she sent someone (DC) to search that area, and his confidence that the remains were there - his comment to Jim Hoover that "we're going to go get Caylee today", all indicate that Casey told them where she left Caylee's body.

It's very possible that DC has told the truth about what happened and how he knew with certainty that Caylee's remains were in the woods off Surburban.

If that's the case, the new witness and information may very well be DC and there may be an on-going investigation based on what he's told authorities. He may have been given immunity from prosecution for withholding information on the location of Caylee's remains. Investigators may be gathering evidence for eventual prosecution of George and Cindy. If JB had a role in this, that may also be under investigation.

If this is the case, I can see that the prosecution would want to withhold this evidence from the defense and those involved in the defense until their investigation is completed.

This is EXACTLY what I think it is about. IF that info were to come to light now, JB (if he in fact told DC to go find the body and call him, not LE) would be in deep doo. The entire case would go up in smoke, because a) KC would in essence be confessing to her crime and )b her attorney would be in cahoots to cover it up. MISTRIAL before the trial.

AND...the whole scenario about KC telling JB where the body was located, and somebody overhearing in the jail, and passing that info along to RK......it all fits.

 

[Tulessa]

...sorry that doesn't explain why the defense wouldn't be there especially if they were the ones to provide the info in the first place. Protect Casey from what? She's in jail.

And isolation.

 

[LambChop]

Didn't DC complain to the FL Bar about JB? Could they have recently released the information to LE?

 

[RR0004]

I respectfully disagree. Earlier the Sa withheld information about the duct tape fabric coming from a different source\roll. Bc had to release that doc dump. So not above board at all imo. What is it with all the secrets?

1. Fbi and bodyfarm discovery.

2. Dc interview sealed.

3. JJ tape and anything said in it sealed.

There is much more missing. Just read the what would you like to see in evidence thread.

This is suppose to be a fact finding mission. We don't need any secrets. If the Judge approves this motion, it is only going to look bad on the States part.

The state brought these charges, they need to be forthcoming. Get it all out on the table. No more secrets. This is crazy. This is also how they ended up with the Sunshine Law in the first place, I am sure.

If the public wants Kc to be convicted of this crime and executed, then they need to do it knowing the whole truth. Otherwise how is the public suppose to sleep at night not knowing. No More Secrets. Moo

The public will know the truth at trial. Not knowing now is more "our" problem than their (the State's) problem. They are allowed to request this under the law.

 

[Kentjbkent]

That may be what this is all about. Perhaps the defense did indeed provide that information and upon checking it out, Le discovered it was true. Perhaps they need to protect Kc. Just speculating. Moo

So you are saying that perhaps the defense provided proof to SA that SODDI committed crime and KC is innocent.

SA investigated proof and deemed it factual. They now believe KC is innocent.

So they filed a motion to set up a PRIVATE meeting with Strickland, but do NOT want to invite defense, who has now proven KC innocent ("party for two, please?") in order to come up with a plan on how to "protect KC" (for how long?).

And just for $&^( and giggles, decided to also file a motion for a proposed trial date of May 2011 for the defendant that they now know is innocent.

:waitasec::waitasec::waitasec:

HUH?

 

[Kentjbkent]

Didn't DC complain to the FL Bar about JB? Could they have recently released the information to LE?

Yes, DC filed a complaint with the BAR in regards to Baez but my recollection is that was in regards to nonpayment of his contract for work completed

 

[Kentjbkent]

...and I guess for some unknown reason, JB didn't want to hand over a witness list with DC on it.

Makes ya :waitasec: huh??!!!

 

[logicalgirl]

Just to follow up....and I posted this on the thread about the new trial date...

As suspicion grows, I am now wondering if this new trial date PROPOSED by the PROSECUTION for 15 months from now (which seemed odd at first) is not being suggested by the SA in anticipation of a new attorney replacing Baez' should suspected allegations against Baez be proven and he is reprimanded and removed from case.

15 months for a new attorney to get up to speed on all the discovery released, plan for depos, etc......would seem logical to me! :dance:

AHA! yes, I was wondering that also.....yikes, Baez will be having his stomach problems again if that's the case.

 

[JSR]

Because they still have to seat a jury. And a fair and impartial one. No matter what the "new" evidence is the prosecution still has to go on the premise that they're going to trial and that KC will not plead guilty. And the SA sure as hell isn't going to offer a plea of any kind. If any "bombshell" evidence gets out it WILL taint a jury.[/QUOTE]

But doesn't this conflict with the Sunshine Laws in Florida?

Not if the judge seals the info. KC's videotaped reaction of the discovery of Caylee's body has already been sealed. If any information is more prejudicial than probative then it should be sealed.

You can be assured that if any of this "new" evidence is exculpatory the SA would immediately hand over said evidence. Any delay could be huge grounds for appeal. I'm pretty sure whatever this evidence is, if it's even pertinent to the actual murder case, is NOT favorable to the defense.

 

[logicalgirl]

The abandoned house is intriguing and there may have been some physical evidence he was looking for at that location. But, Cindy's confession to Yuri Malich in Dec. 2008 when Yuri and other detectives were serving a search warrant on the Anthony home, ties Cindy to DC's search of the woods. She said, "I sent someone to search that area (where Caylee's remains were found) last month and nothing was there." Clearly, Cindy was involved in DC's search.

If DC has told authorities the truth, then the real daisy chain may be Casey to Cindy to DC. If DC is the "new witness and new information" source, this could be explosive evidence! It would destroy the defense's claim that "somebody else did it" if the new evidence shows that Casey told Cindy where she left Caylee's body, and Cindy was directing DC where to find Caylee.

Edited to add...............this would be cause for a private meeting between the judge and prosecution. If investigators are still working on this aspect and in the process of verifying what the witness has told them, and if the disclosure of this would hamper further investigation, I could see a reason for withholding this from the defense and the public for a specific period of time. If the new evidence is the "smoking gun", release of that information publicly would taint a future jury pool.

Or perhaps, Casey to Baez to Cindy to DCasey?

 

[Kentjbkent]

I respectfully disagree. Earlier the Sa withheld information about the duct tape fabric coming from a different source\roll. Bc had to release that doc dump. So not above board at all imo. What is it with all the secrets?

1. Fbi and bodyfarm discovery.

2. Dc interview sealed.

3. JJ tape and anything said in it sealed.

There is much more missing. Just read the what would you like to see in evidence thread.

This is suppose to be a fact finding mission. We don't need any secrets. If the Judge approves this motion, it is only going to look bad on the States part.

The state brought these charges, they need to be forthcoming. Get it all out on the table. No more secrets. This is crazy. This is also how they ended up with the Sunshine Law in the first place, I am sure.

If the public wants Kc to be convicted of this crime and executed, then they need to do it knowing the whole truth. Otherwise how is the public suppose to sleep at night not knowing. No More Secrets. Moo

Just two quick questions....

1. When SA withheld information about the duct tape fabric coming from a different source\roll, could you tell me what sanctions or reprimands were issued by the courts? Could you please link to information regarding this doc dump instigated by BC

2. Do you have information on exactly what is "missing"? Is something actually "missing" if you haven't ever had it???

 

[Cher352]

Pardon me if this has been dicussed, I skimmed through this thread rather quickly.

When it says information obtained by law enforcement does that mean the same thing as the State's Attorney Office??

If not, would that mean it was LE that discovered something not the SA's office which rules out anything physical or any witness that the SA already knew about.

True????

 

[Kentjbkent]

Not if the judge seals the info. KC's videotaped reaction of the discovery of Caylee's body has already been sealed. If any information is more prejudicial than probative then it should be sealed.

You can be assured that if any of this "new" evidence is exculpatory the SA would immediately hand over said evidence. Any delay could be huge grounds for appeal. I'm pretty sure whatever this evidence is, if it's even pertinent to the actual murder case, is NOT favorable to the defense.

But if the info is "sealed" from the public, both prosecution and defense are aware of it, correct? My understanding is that SA does not want this new "info" (don't know if I would call it evidence just yet?) known to the defense...yet.

But I agree with you.....whatever the "materials and information" are, they are NOT favorable to the defense....

 

[RR0004]

So who is JK?

 

[LambChop]

So who is JK?

RK's ex-wife.

 

[JSR]

Pardon me if this has been dicussed, I skimmed through this thread rather quickly.

When it says information obtained by law enforcement does that mean the same thing as the State's Attorney Office??

If not, would that mean it was LE that discovered something not the SA's office which rules out anything physical or any witness that the SA already knew about.

True????

We don't know. I'm not familiar with FL. But in other states its fairly common that the DA's office has their own investigators, separate from local LE. It's not clear which investigators the SA office meant.

 

[logicalgirl]

So who is JK?

Where did JK come up again - Jill Kerley?

 

[JSR]

But if the info is "sealed" from the public, both prosecution and defense are aware of it, correct? My understanding is that SA does not want this new "info" (don't know if I would call it evidence just yet?) known to the defense...yet.

But I agree with you.....whatever the "materials and information" are, they are NOT favorable to the defense....

Yes, you are correct. Whatever this new "info" (I also like the idea of not calling it evidence yet) is it absolutely is discoverable. Eventually the defense WILL get their hands on it.

But I doubt they'll want it once they see it .....

 

[Kentjbkent]

So who is JK?

Jill Kerley.....

ex wife (of 4 mos) to Kronk