Great stuff.
Did the sons of LHP move Christmas trees around in the Ramsey basement shortly before the murder? I'll look it up and if they had, I'll see if they were investigated.
DeeDee, can you describe what it is that creates that certainty within you that they know who was involved?
I believe LHP said that her son-in-law??? helped. So she must have older children or stepkids.
As far as what it is that makes me feel certain the parents knew what happened that night....that is difficult to pin down to absolutes. Each of us here has a "gut feeling" about this case, and even if we have more than one theory (as I do) we still have at least some things we feel sure about. I guess, for me, it is more certain that the parents know who did this and how it happened than it is that they did it themselves. It isn't any one thing that makes me feel this way, more like lots of things that I can't explain away any other way.
For one, you have to realize that I believe Patsy wrote the note. That part is not a variable, to me. I base it on MY opinions of the handwriting samples as well as similarities in Patsy's writing style (based on what I've seen). While many IDI feel the length and rambling tones of the note indicate someone other than Patsy (or JR), I feel just the opposite. I feel the length of the note, as well as trying to cover as many "options" as they can indicate it was the parents for sure. They tried to implicate not only the stated SFF, (by outright mentioning an SFF and by threatening what would be expected behavior by a terrorist group). The note also mentions JR's bonus, and I can't see an SFF knowing about that. But by the same token, and in other statements in the note, it seems to implicate a business associate, maybe an employee with a grudge. The note has the sentence "We respect your bussiness (sic) but not the country that it serves". Yet, if you look at the note itself (and this was also pointed out by people analyzed the note) the sentence originally began with "We DON'T respect your bussiness). The word "DON'T" is scratched out. This suggests to me that they were trying not to point too closely to an employee or business associate because then they may have to point too strongly and someone who would then be cleared and sue them. But this was allegedly someone who assaulted, strangled and bludgeoned and innocent little girl. Yet the tone of the note is NOT virulent but almost sarcastically patronizing "Don't try to grow a brain, John". "It's up to you now, John".
A SFF would not write a note this way, nor would an enemy of JR or his company. Besides, the note indicated there was no hatred of his company, but respect- it is the US that they hate- so why not target someone on a more national level?
If this was a real SFF or enemy the note would read more on the line of
"We got you kid, Mother****er. -Call the cops and she dies". End of note.
There are other things, too. The pineapple has long been a sticking point with me. So was lying about JB being asleep and carried in. Why lie about either of those things? They are simple, uncomplicated activities that should have no relation to this chid being kidnapped/killed. So why the lie? Well, it puts her awake and alive VERY close to the TOD, which itself is close to the arrival of the family home. For an intruder to do this, he takes a BIG risk because there is a very good chance that the parents might not actually be asleep. The scream...the pineapple snack and the quite extensive staging, all that would have had a very small window in which to be accomplished all the while under the threat of the parents hearing and walking in on it (or BR, whose room was on the same floor as JB and closer to the kitchen, too as far as hearing anything that went on). This might have necessitated killing the whole family, and if it was an SFF or a madman intruder, why not so this anyway? If it was someone targeting JR, why not kill his son, too? If it was a pedophile, why kill her at all? Take her out of the house quickly and you can assault her over and over again. If you kill her, you dump the body and think you'll never get caught.
Then there is the behavior of the parents. I can see defense attorneys telling their clients to keep quiet. That's what they are paid to do. But these clients went on national television, yet refused police interviews for months (and years). It took Patsy FOUR tries (with her own polygrapher, not the BPD)
I look at the questions LW would NOT allow Patsy to answer. That told me more than the answers she gave. I look at what the DA would NOT provide to the investigation- the phone records, the exhumation (to check to see exactly what those parallel "abrasions" were).
I look at the squad cars Patsy's sister filled with so-called "things for the funeral" which included a golf bag???? that was right outside the wineceller door when the crime took place.
It isn't just one thing. It's all of them. They know more than we have been told.
One thing- I'd LOVE for ALL the evidence in the case to be released- autopsy photos, ALL photos of the house and the party, all the interviews, everything LE knows, I want to know. Then we'll see.