Question re Ransom Note

[Jayelles]

Toth - Just WHO told you that it was Janet McReynolds that was the one who claimed to overhear JonBenet say, "I don't feel pretty" the night of the Christmas party on the 23rd??? That has never been published as to just WHO it was that claimed to hear that.
What is your source?
And while your at it - what is your source too that "no one" else at the party agreed with Janet McReynolds' description of JonBenet that night??

Let's have it.

RST logic:-

"no-one agreed with her" should be interpreted as "Everyone disagreed with her" rather than "no-one voiced agreement with her"

 

[Blazeboy3]

Poco.. that note always bothered me too... for one thing it states that they (the ramsey's) will be contacted tomorrow...

Assuming the intruders were in the house after midnight.. then 'tomorrow' would have been the next day... not the day JonBenet was found but the day after.

I wish someone, somewhere would solve this case.... I guess as long as peolle do not forget and keep asking questions there will be interest.

I wish/pray someone somewhere will solve this case too! IMHO "TOMORROW" is a clue ... it NEVER COMES ... If you read a sign in a bar that says

"FREE BEER TOMORROW"

... what's that mean? (A:It never comes to pass because when you read it, it is not DATED ... get it? if not, role play put this sign in your house and read it every day and then THINK TO YOURSELF: When is TOMORROW? ... NEVER ENDS?>?)

 

[Blazeboy3]

Burke has NEVER been cleared. He was declared a witness and not a suspect by Lin Wood and Alex Hunter in Hunter's fraudulent affidavit of October 12, 2000, but so was everyone else in the case declared a witness and not a suspect. Please show me any credible document that states Burke Ramsey has been cleared. There isn't any, because BURKE HAS NOT BEEN CLEARED.

JMO

LOL NEVER say NEVER ... it comes back to you/source +sum
http://web.dailycamera.com/extra/ramsey/2001/16lsuit.html

Police cleared Burke's name in the case in the early months of the investigation. Authorities reiterated that the boy wasn't a suspect after a tabloid report in 1998.

 

[Blazeboy3]

What difference does it make? Even if Burke WAS previously cleared, it's a new investigation now, supposedly from scratch. That means that Burke is a suspect all over again, just like everyone else.

Not that I give Keenan any more credit than the last group of stooges that investigated this crime...

Ok, so does that mean now it's a "Drawing Board" thing...Patsy's solution to the problem?

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3079093/
‘I don’t give a flying flip how scientific it is. Go back to the damn drawing board. I didn’t do it. John Ramsey didn’t do it, and we don’t have a clue of anybody who did do it. Quit screwing around asking me about things that are ridiculous and let’s find the person that did this.’
:clap: :clap: :clap:
— PATSY RAMSEY

 

[BlueCrab]

Police cleared Burke's name in the case in the early months of the investigation. Authorities reiterated that the boy wasn't a suspect after a tabloid report in 1998.[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR]

Blaze,

Please pay closer attention to what Keenan, Hunter, Beckner, and Wood say about Burke not being a SUSPECT. They are tricking you and others who aren't paying attention. THERE ARE NO SUSPECTS, therefore Burke isn't classified as a suspect either; he's classified as a witness.

It's the only murder case in the world where SUSPECTS are called WITNESSES. It's a fraudulent trick to make it appear Burke has been cleared. He hasn't been cleared. The tricky and fraudulent October 12, 2000 affidavit that Hunter signed to make it appear that Burke has been "cleared" was written by Lin Wood, not Alex Hunter, and I can prove it.

JMO

 

[Shylock]

Please pay closer attention to what Keenan, Hunter, Beckner, and Wood say about Burke not being a SUSPECT.

Why bother? NOBODY from this "new" investigation has said Burke has been cleared. People move on and off suspect lists at any whim or blink of an eye.

 

[BlueCrab]

Why bother? NOBODY from this "new" investigation has said Burke has been cleared. People move on and off suspect lists at any whim or blink of an eye.

Nobody from the "old" investigation said that Burke had been cleared either.

JMO

 

[Shylock]

Nobody from the "old" investigation said that Burke had been cleared either.

I don't give people from the "old" investigation that much credit. Thomas said during a live chat that Burke couldn't have been involved because "he didn't have the wherewithall to commit the entire crime". This shows that Thomas was too caught up and blindsided by his own PDI theory to realize that Burke could have been deeply involved in the crime without writing the ransom note.
The rest of the BPD has similar mental blockages for one reason or another, mainly because they were hell-bent on prosecuting someone which they couldn't do with Burke.

 

[LovelyPigeon]

Here are quotes on Burke from ST in 2 different online chats:
SteveThomas
I certainly do not know anything to lead me to believe that Burke was present or aware that his sister was being
assaulted/killed



Moderator at 12:09pm ET
Marilena Diogo writes: "What evidence led you to dismiss the possibility that Burke may have struck his sister without an intent to kill her?"

Steve Thomas at 12:10pm ET
Beyond what we can fairly address in an online chat, there was just no credible evidence whatsoever that Burke was capable or involved in any aspect of this, from writing the ransom note to staging a crime scene.

 

[BlueCrab]

Here are quotes on Burke from ST in 2 different online chats:
SteveThomas
I certainly do not know anything to lead me to believe that Burke was present or aware that his sister was being
assaulted/killed



Moderator at 12:09pm ET
Marilena Diogo writes: "What evidence led you to dismiss the possibility that Burke may have struck his sister without an intent to kill her?"

Steve Thomas at 12:10pm ET
Beyond what we can fairly address in an online chat, there was just no credible evidence whatsoever that Burke was capable or involved in any aspect of this, from writing the ransom note to staging a crime scene.

Steve Thomas had a "PDI" theory buried in his head andmost of his investigation was centered around trying to prove that theory. His summary dismissal of Burke as possibly being involved was made without a shred of exculpatory evidence to support it.

JMO

 

[Shylock]

Steve Thomas had a "PDI" theory buried in his head and most of his investigation was centered around trying to prove that theory. His summary dismissal of Burke as possibly being involved was made without a shred of exculpatory evidence to support it.

You got that right BlueCrab. Anyone who doesn't think Burke had the ability to bash his sister over the head with a baseball bat when they got home that night is too stupid to be discussing this case.
It's simple physics, supported by ability, opportunity, and several possible weapons found at the crime scene (bat, flashlight, golf club...).

 

[Maxi]

... Anyone who doesn't think Burke had the ability to bash his sister over the head with a baseball bat when they got home that night is too stupid to be discussing this case. ..

I hope that isn't a reference to anyone who posts at WS. If it is, please delete it.

 

[LovelyPigeon]

Anyone can hit anyone...even infants can hit. The question is whether or not the horrorific injury to JonBenét's skull could have been inflicted by a child.

The force involved to displace that large piece of skull and cause that linear crack was beyond the strength of a 9-almost-10-year-old.

 

[Ivy]

That's interesting thing to say, LP, in light of the fact that Cyril Wecht said that there was nothing about what happened to JonBenet that a kid Burke's age at the time couldn't have done. Michael Baden said that Burke should be looked at, so he too must believe that Burke was capable of having inflicted the head blow.
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IMO

 

[Toltec]

Burke "accidently" striking JonBenet on the face with a golf club???

Let's not forget that Patsy also told the Doctor that she was also hit in the leg with the golf club.

ACCIDENT??? Don't think so.

Another example is that Kristina Griffin tells of she and JonBenet teasing Burke...pulling the plug on his computer...he shouting, "Hey, I was at the highest level!"...and then chasing the girls into JonBenet's bathroom and pounding on the door.

Did JonBenet pull the plug on Burke's Nintendo64 Christmas night?

IMO

 

[LovelyPigeon]

Wecht has never been consulted on the case of JonBenét.

It was Wecht's belief that John Ramsey molested and killed his daughter. Wecht didn't even know about unidentified male DNA on the panties until long after everyone else did.

Wecht has become an embarrasment to his profession.

I don't have Wecht's book but would prefer his exact quotes about Burke to summarizations.

 

[Ivy]

LP, Wecht stated in his book that Burke could have done it but dismissed the possibility because it didn't fit his theory of the crime. I don't have the book anymore, so I can't quote Wecht directly. I think Maxi, too, at one time posted that Wecht said that nothing happened to JonBenet that someone Burke's age at the time couldn't have done. Maybe she has the exact quote. Btw, of course you consider Wecht "an embarrassment to his profession." He doesn't buy the intruder theory.

Though you didn't ask, Dr. Baden's actual comment in reference to Burke was, "The boy needs to be looked at." He said it on the CTV special, "Prime Suspects: Who Killed JonBenet Ramsey?" The Ramseys sued CTV for including Burke as one of the possible suspects, as you must know. I taped the program. I don't think the transcript is available, but I could be wrong. Anyway, I'm not going to try to find it. If you decide you don't want to take my word that Dr. Baden said that Burke should be looked at, it's okay with me.
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IMO

 

[River]

If you decide you don't want to take my word that Dr. Baden said that Burke should be looked at, it's okay with me.
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IMO

Ivy, Dr Baden did say that. I heard it with my own ears. (Unless I'm further off of my rocker than I give myself credit for...)

 

[Ivy]

Thanks, River.

 

[LovelyPigeon]

I don't doubt Baden said Burke should have been looked at. I don't know when he said it or when he was videotaped saying it (it could have been on a CourtTV appearance in January 1997 for all I know). He may have been recorded saying that 2 years before the CourtTV special aired.


I think Burke was looked at as an immediate possible suspect by BPD but there was no indication found that that he had anything to do with the murder or with writing the ransom note. He never became an actual suspect because there was no reason and no evidence to support it.