Reasons Terri May or May Not Have Done it

[gwenabob]

I've seen it brought up repeatedly about her fascination with crime shows. If she'd been paying attention, she'd have known she would be the first person LE would go after and hard. Maybe she was incredulous because she hadn't done anything wrong? Who knows.

And what are the odds of hitting the Lotto?

I'd say they are quite good if you are the one choosing the winning numbers.

 

[miabellamoure]

I suppose. She would still have to prove that she was the injured party. Feigning a suicide w/Kaine wouldn't work. Life insurance policies don't pay out for suicide.

Seems like an awfully convoluted way to snag a few bucks.

bbm

think again...they do!

 

[SmoothOperator]

Question-hypothetical: It's obvious that Terri set this up to look like a stranger abduction, with her saying that there was a male chaperone that no one knew and that Kyron was seen with him.

So, Kyron disappears - the male chaperone is blamed.

Then say, for the sake of this question, Kaine is killed in an accident or feigned suicide a year from now.

Would BabyK stand to receive social security monthly checks after her father passed away? Would Terri receive anything from SS after Kaine's demise?

Thanks to anyone who understands the intricacies of SSI and all... I know nothing about any of it.

You are 100% correct baby k would be receiving a monthly SSI check til she turned 18. The checks are c/o "in care of" Terri. Meaning Mrs. Terri Horman would be receiving SsI til baby k was 18. As Terri would have full discretion of where, what, and how she wanted to spend each amd every months checks.

(I know this because this was the exact situation that I grew up with. After having my father die at a very young age I received SSI Check every single month til turning 18 and they were all c/o my mother with of course her full discretion of how every penny was spent. There are no stipulations whatsoever that ensure a penny of it even goes towards the Childs wellbeing)



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[debs]

You are 100% correct baby k would be receiving a monthly SSI check til she turned 18. The checks are c/o "in care of" Terri. Meaning Mrs. Terri Horman would be receiving SsI til baby k was 18. As Terri would have full discretion of where, what, and how she wanted to spend each amd every months checks.

(I know this because this was the exact situation that I grew up with. After having my father die at a very young age I received SSI Check every single month til turning 18 and they were all c/o my mother with of course her full discretion of how every penny was spent. There are no stipulations whatsoever that ensure a penny of it even goes towards the Childs wellbeing)



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There isn't a stipulation that the funds received go toward the wellbeing of the child, but SSI does send a form every year and asks one to account for where the funds are. Sure one could lie.....but speculating that Terri would no doubt lie on forms she'll never receive is just ...... strange.

 

[Scamperoo]

So Terri squeezed in texts in between the sexts and sending explicit pictures of sexual acts that she was concerned about Kyron? That would be a rare occurrence. I believe she is involved because of all the facts about her character, behavior, and words that just don't add up to innocent, and it certainly doesn't add up to caring :twocents: for Kyron.

With all due respect, using those criteria as and indication of guilt a huge proportion of the great American public may as well fall on their collective swords right now...innocent or guilty. The court of public opinion can be much more damaging than a court or law. JMHO

 

[mmmagique]

I suppose. She would still have to prove that she was the injured party. Feigning a suicide w/Kaine wouldn't work. Life insurance policies don't pay out for suicide.
Seems like an awfully convoluted way to snag a few bucks.

FR: Actually, many do. The policies I used to sell did pay out for suicide, but the policy had to have been in effect for 2 full years before the suicide occured.

 

[wondering1]

I suppose. She would still have to prove that she was the injured party. Feigning a suicide w/Kaine wouldn't work. Life insurance policies don't pay out for suicide.

Seems like an awfully convoluted way to snag a few bucks.

Something happening to KH was off the table in my post that you were responding to. The only thing my hypo assmes is that TH is not, herself, under suspicion. In that event, she would still be KH's wife and, eventually, his beneficiary (or at least baby), and that would be a whole lotta cash to improve her lifestyle.

Something happening to KH would be unecessary except if TH were inclined be his beneficiary (directly or indirectly, through baby) sooner rather than later. My OP didn't use a suicide. I'm aware of how life insurance pays. That's why I said *accident* -- I wonder if she was planning to buy him a motorcycle for this b-day :innocent:

 

[wondering1]

With all due respect, using those criteria as and indication of guilt a huge proportion of the great American public may as well fall on their collective swords right now...innocent or guilty. The court of public opinion can be much more damaging than a court or law. JMHO

so long as our child doesn't go missing under suspicious circumstances, we should all be fine

 

[AlexisFresca]

Oh, I don't know about that... I once took some pictures of my 3 year old crying. She had just cut off her bangs all the way to the scalp. I just felt a need to save that episode for posterity. :crazy:

Yep! I think there are several of us moms who have some teary 'memories' from little ones!

 

[Billylee]

Oh, I don't know about that... I once took some pictures of my 3 year old crying. She had just cut off her bangs all the way to the scalp. I just felt a need to save that episode for posterity. :crazy:

Been there done that! LOL I just gotta know though, was she crying because she got scolded or because she was having a bad hair day!? LMAO

 

[SmoothOperator]

There isn't a stipulation that the funds received go toward the wellbeing of the child, but SSI does send a form every year and asks one to account for where the funds are. Sure one could lie.....but speculating that Terri would no doubt lie on forms she'll never receive is just ...... strange.

Sorry that it may seem strange to some. But it is indeed a fact there are no stipulations(just as i detailed in my post replied to above) Nothing "strange" when it is in reply to a member's inquiry about how SSI works and that is what my post is replying to. I personally do not find the subject of puf's post, nor my reply to that post, "strange" at all. Rather I find it more than completely relevant when we are infact discussing "possible" reasons for Terri's IMO evil plots, plans, and executing of atleast one(that we know of)of those plots. IMO.

What I do find "strange" is the actions, behaviors, etc of a forty year old woman that IMO "IS AT THE VERY ROOT OF THE CAUSE" of EVERYTHING IN AND AROUND THIS CASE OF THIS PRECIOUS, little boy, named Kyron. That is what IMO is quite "strange"




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[miabellamoure]

Sorry that it may seem strange to some. But it is indeed a fact there are no stipulations(just as i detailed in my post replied to above) Nothing "strange" when it is in reply to a member's inquiry about how SSI works and that is what my post is replying to. I personally do not find the subject of puf's post, nor my reply to that post, "strange" at all. Rather I find it more than completely relevant when we are infact discussing "possible" reasons for Terri's IMO evil plots, plans, and executing of atleast one(that we know of)of those plots. IMO.

What I do find "strange" is the actions, behaviors, etc of a forty year old woman that IMO "IS AT THE VERY ROOT OF THE CAUSE" of EVERYTHING IN AND AROUND THIS CASE OF THIS PRECIOUS, little boy, named Kyron. That is what IMO is quite "strange"

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bbm

I just felt especially this part of your post was deserving of being repeated...thank you!

 

[LillyRush]

The financial motive could make sense, imo, if Kyron were a teenager close to 18 or already a young adult and just about to inherit whatever Kaine might have left to him. But, a 7 year old? I don't see how Kyron, as a 7 yr old, would have stood in her way to an inheritance. What exactly would he have immediately inherited that would have been greater than anything left to Terri? Terri probably would have gotten the house, vehicle(s), any pension or death benefits from Intel, etc. She also would have gotten SS benefits for Baby K. I'm assuming Desiree would be the one left to handle Kyron's SS benefits, but I have no idea. As others have said, it would have made more sense for TMH hypothetically to kill Kaine. Also, if Kaine had gone first, Desiree might have even filed for custody or just automatically been able to take Kyron back home...which if you believe the theory that she was just tired of Kyron or whatever would have taken care of that right there.

eta: This was in response to some earlier posts, not the ones right above it, just for clarification on where this post landed in the thread.

 

[gwenabob]

To answer your question, it depends on whether Kaine had a will in place. If he did, it probably divides his estate equally between Terri, Kyron, and baby. Or perhaps between Terri and Kyron, expecting Terri would use her proceeds to care for the baby. If there was no will, I believe the Oregon default when there are children from a previous marriage is half to the children from the other marriage, and half to the current spouse.

Either way, Kyron would be receiving a large chunk of the estate, whatever that might be, regardless of his age. If he were still a minor, it would be put in a trust for him until he comes of age. Since Terri is not on the mortgage, she would not automatically inherit the house free and clear. A portion would be Kyron's. Same with retirement funds, life insurance, and any other money.

Desiree, as the next of kin to Kyron, would take custody of him, and his inheritance trust. It is quite possible the house would have to be sold.

 

[LillyRush]

Pure speculation here. *If* TH was involved in *whatever* happened to Ky, IMO it is directly linked to her involvement with unsavory characters. Maybe she owed "them" money, and they demanded a guarantee of payment (could also explain getting J out of the house). Maybe "they" needed a guarantee TH wouldn't "out" them for a co-illicit activity. IDK. IMO, a payout to TH from a lawsuit/life insurance/SSI makes little sense. But that's just me.

I can agree that if she is "involved" at all it could be in an indirect manner as far as maybe allowing an unsavory character (perhaps someone even more unsavory than she even knew) into her life. Her judgement in social relationships/interactions does seem to be questionable. Of course, there are many predators that gain access everyday to children by using that tactic. So, would that necessarily be her fault entirely? Not really. Although, I suppose if she were going over things in her mind and feeling like she was to blame for bringing that person around, then she might come across as evasive or something during certain investigative interviews.

 

[LillyRush]

To answer your question, it depends on whether Kaine had a will in place. If he did, it probably divides his estate equally between Terri, Kyron, and baby. Or perhaps between Terri and Kyron, expecting Terri would use her proceeds to care for the baby. If there was no will, I believe the Oregon default when there are children from a previous marriage is half to the children from the other marriage, and half to the current spouse.

Either way, Kyron would be receiving a large chunk of the estate, whatever that might be, regardless of his age. If he were still a minor, it would be put in a trust for him until he comes of age. Since Terri is not on the mortgage, she would not automatically inherit the house free and clear. A portion would be Kyron's. Same with retirement funds, life insurance, and any other money.

Desiree, as the next of kin to Kyron, would take custody of him, and his inheritance trust. It is quite possible the house would have to be sold.

Thanks for the information on what the default process might be in Oregon. Yep, of course, we'd need to know whether Kaine even had a will in place and if he did how he arranged everything. Even if Terri is not on the mortgage, I can't imagine that Kaine would have created a (hypothetical) will where his wife and baby daughter would be left homeless. Can you? Remember any such will would have been written before knowledge of anything that is happening right now. I don't remember the reason why she's not on the mortgage. Was it a credit reason? Or, did he just happen to purchase this house before he met her?

There also would have been no worries, on TMH's part, about Kyron taking over the house or the finances anytime soon. Plus, he likely would have gone back to Desiree's custody, reducing/eliminating TMH from having to take care of him financially. Desiree would then, as we said, be the one making the financial decisions and management for Kyron. You could be right, that in the end the house might have had to have been sold. But, even then, Terri still likely would have received more with her portion combined with baby K's portion.

 

[LillyRush]

I've seen it brought up repeatedly about her fascination with crime shows. If she'd been paying attention, she'd have known she would be the first person LE would go after and hard. Maybe she was incredulous because she hadn't done anything wrong? Who knows.

And what are the odds of hitting the Lotto?

Oh, the irony of correlating "fascination" with crime shows to guilt in a kidnapping/murder as we discuss true crime daily. lol

 

[PaulaF513]

Oh, the irony of correlating "fascination" with crime shows to guilt in a kidnapping/murder as we discuss true crime daily. lol

:thumb: Not only do I read here daily, I'm a Criminal Minds junky.

 

[Calliope]

Something happening to KH was off the table in my post that you were responding to. The only thing my hypo assmes is that TH is not, herself, under suspicion. In that event, she would still be KH's wife and, eventually, his beneficiary (or at least baby), and that would be a whole lotta cash to improve her lifestyle.

Something happening to KH would be unecessary except if TH were inclined be his beneficiary (directly or indirectly, through baby) sooner rather than later. My OP didn't use a suicide. I'm aware of how life insurance pays. That's why I said *accident* -- I wonder if she was planning to buy him a motorcycle for this b-day :innocent:

There are too many "KHs" in this case (pretty much everyone on Kaine's side, it seems), but only one I really care about.

 

[Calliope]

Oh, the irony of correlating "fascination" with crime shows to guilt in a kidnapping/murder as we discuss true crime daily. lol

If LE ever suspects me of a crime and does a simple search on my computer, I'm screwed.