Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #2

[Dum-Dum Sucker]

In photo #5, RN's right leg, bent at the knee, appears to be suspended in mid-air.

Sure looks like rigor to me.

 

[mikeysmommom]

This is a very sad thing to have happened.First he loses his son then the woman he was going to marry.So very sad,how much grief can a person take.

 

[mrsu]

Where is Casey????:crazy::crazy:

I wish she would find a rope. :innocent::innocent::rocker:

 

[peace9274]

In photo #5, RN's right leg, bent at the knee, appears to be suspended in mid-air.

Sure looks like rigor to me.

It looks like rigor to me also.

As a nurse (35+ yrs), I'm mandated to be CPR certified, renewed yearly.
In the classes I've taken, we're taught that when coming upon a person not breathing & has no pulse
(away from a hospital setting)... there are only 3 things that would allow someone to NOT initiate/perform CPR:

Rigor mortis
Skull is crushed/decapitated
Decomposition

However, there are other factors to consider, also. If there is danger to self or others (fire, etc).
Otherwise, you do the best CPR you can with any obstacle at the setting...
i. e. the victim is stuck in a car & can not be removed to perform CPR on a flat surface.

 

[tiredblondy]

I just got here and don't know if this has been posted yet or not, a recent article;

http://news.lalate.com/2011/07/20/rebecca-nalepa-has-police-secrecy-helped-the-investigation/

 

[tiredblondy]

According to this article, scroll down to the end, he is taking care of her funeral too. I assume that's what they meant when they say he is taking care of two funerals.

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2...-pr-firm-as-police-probe-death-of-rebecca-na/

 

[tiredblondy]

This is the first time I've seen it mentioned WHY Adam was there since he lives in Memphis.(Adam does not live in the guest house was just visiting.) Also as you read this article you'll see on the right side there are several more articles about Rebecca and JS etc.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...rother-adam-house-comfort-after-son-max-death

 

[elementry]

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But I just read on radaronline that they have subpoenaed the hospital security tapes. So even though I take radaronline with a grain of salt... I guess I shouldn't assume that he didn't go home that night.[/quote]

I met *youknowwho* in the bar of a prominent Scottsdale hotel after a charity event. Most had cleared out. I was waiting for numbers from hotel staff when I was engaged by Mr. "s". He was drunk. We talked (as well as you can talk to a drunk) and he took more than one call from girlfriend Rebecca. At one point, he tried to put me on the phone with her.

There was UGLY convo between those two. I couldn't wait to get away from him and his conversations.

IMO, LE needs to look at him


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[Dr. Know?]

Read oceanblueeyes posts for opinions on suicide.

I have and think they are well constructed but still not agreeing with that opinoin. Thanks just! xoxo

 

[Whisperer]

Her face does not look black in those photos. Every hanging victim I've seen, the face is black.

 

[elementry]

Is that an engagement ring on her finger? No rock I can see. Or she was playing at engagement with a plainer band.

http://i54.tinypic.com/33cwtv7.png

 

[peace9274]

Her face does not look black in those photos. Every hanging victim I've seen, the face is black.

But it would depend how long the person was hanging.
If cut down immediately afterwards, face would not neccessarily be black.
I know this from working in a psych hospital where I came upon a hanging.

But I do think RN was in a state of rigor, with knees bent.
This leads me to believe she was hanged after she died. MOO

 

[Charlie09]

bbm

CPR would not be performed on any patient in this position (hands tied behind back).

ETA: I'm required to be (and am) certified in first aid/CPR.

I used to be certified to teach CPR and am currently certified in first aid/CPR as well, I don't ever remember seeing anything in any materials about what to do when someone is bound in performing CPR.

Depending on the knot, I would think it likely they did the best they could with what they could and didn't care if she was perfectly aligned or not.

 

[Melanie]

Her face does not look black in those photos. Every hanging victim I've seen, the face is black.

Interesting thought - thank you.

A law enforcement source told Radar Online, “The San Diego Sheriff's Department will be obtaining a search warrant to review the footage. Investigators want to confirm details of what Jonah, Adam, and Dina [Shacknai's second ex-wife and the mother of Max], have revealed to them. Jonah maintains that he was at the hospital when Rebecca's body was found. This is a very fluid investigation.”

Source: http://www.examiner.com/us-headline...veillance-tapes-to-be-examined-by-authorities

I'm glad LE is looking at the video to make sure there's nothing hinky going on.

MOO

Mel

 

[peace9274]

It looks like rigor to me also.

As a nurse (35+ yrs), I'm mandated to be CPR certified, renewed yearly.
In the classes I've taken, we're taught that when coming upon a person not breathing & has no pulse
(away from a hospital setting)... there are only 3 things that would allow someone to NOT initiate/perform CPR:

Rigor mortis
Skull is crushed/decapitated
Decomposition

However, there are other factors to consider, also. If there is danger to self or others (fire, etc).
Otherwise, you do the best CPR you can with any obstacle at the setting...
i. e. the victim is stuck in a car & can not be removed to perform CPR on a flat surface.

You do the best CPR you can in any given setting.
Including initiating it as soon as possible.

Some/most are not in the perfect setting or location
nor is the victim always in the best position for receiving CPR.

 

[MsFacetious]

We dont know when they were closed or by whom. Maybe LE closed them so the media couldnt see into the bedroom.

Or they could have been dusting for fingerprints.

IMO

I agree, the scenario you described is entirely possible.

However, it has been reported by LE that AS stated he cut Rebecca down.

Since there is no evidence in the media photos of any remnant of the rope on the balcony railing, I am skeptical that the rope was ever anchored to the railing (or anything else, for that matter).

Hypothetically speaking, even if the rope was cut by someone standing on the balcony, I don't find it (personally) plausible that the person would have removed any remnant of the rope from the railing. I also don't find it plausible that the person would have closed the French doors behind themselves before returning to the ground below where Rebecca lay.

A person in a panic about someone's life would not take the time to perform those time-wasting actions, IMO. A person in a panic would not take the time to untie knots around railings. A person in a panic would not take the time to close doors.

A person in a panic RUNS.

Those closed French doors are a big clue, IMO.

Or maybe... they aren't.

As I walked out onto the deck... and the doors "sprung" shut behind me. (And hit me in the @$$...)

What if the french doors shut by themselves? Like hotel doors?

Nobody would have had to shut them, they would have shut by themselves...
Whether it was Rebecca hanging herself or Adam cutting the rope.

 

[MsFacetious]

Well that saving of a dead body would just destroy a potential crime scene.

When I was in junior high a few friends and I walked into the bathroom to find a teen girl hanging from the stall. Her boyfriend had dumped her.

I'm not that old... we already had Law and Order and things like that. People knew not to contaminate a crime scene and one girl said not to touch her.

I cannot type what I said, because it's R rated. But one girl helped me lift her up to get her down, the other girl ran to get a teacher. The teacher assisted us with CPR.

She lived.
She is now a nurse, wife and mother.


There was also a neighbor boy who hung himself and was pulled down by his father.
He also survived and now does motivational speeches.


I would hesitate if I encountered someone hanging... for about half a second. But I would flash back to junior high... and immediately do everything I could to get the person's airway open.

Because I have nightmares... what if we had "not contaminated the scene" in that bathroom?
I know what would have happened if we had not taken her down...
I have no intention of ensuring a negative outcome if that scenario happens again.
If the person is obviously dead and beyond saving... okay. But any hope of saving them? I will try.

I have to ask myself and maybe I'v read too much but how could MS have been injured so badly from this staircase. I would believe hitting the carpet would soften the fall. I just can't get a grip on how he fell. What was said about the chandalier? I am so very sad this child died and also Rebecca. This is just all too creepy.

I agree... after seeing that staircase from the other angle... I am even more confused.
Unless he hit the table on the way down and cracked his head on that. If that table is really heavy.

My daughters have seizures. We have had some pretty incredible falls, head injuries, etc.
My daughter has fallen down stairs just like that more than once.

I know there are "freak accidents" and I get that... but just falling down those stairs wouldn't be enough.
He had to hit something... or had an undiagnosed condition that caused him to fall and also killed him.

 

[Bonepile]

I still find that 15 police working on the case is significant. The fact that a very high priced attorney to known stars is significant. Also a very expensive PR firm has been hired is significant. Who the heck needs a very high priced law firm and PR firm unless there is more hidden than exposed? Stay tuned.

 

[4Jacy]

I would not be happy with a girlfriend calling my son hers.
I would even be more unhappy that he had a fatal accident in her care.
Rebecca confused her role in JS's life, but nobody asked me, just saying.
Was he really going to propose? Who knows, that was a statement from an unidentified "friend".

IMO

Your first two sentences alone would make me a suspect. And for a very good reason!

 

[TGIRecovered]

I don't necessarily believe that Rebekkah was killed because she was blamed for Maxie's accident. Maybe she was killed so she wouldn't tell anyone what really happened to Maxie. I don't know what happened, but I'm not buying the simple fall down the stairs story.

I think she either refused to continue to participate in a cover-up, or was using what she knew about it to manipulate Jonah. What if she told him, "marry me or I'll tell"?

I don't believe the spin about his intention to marry her. Why would he want to share his assets? He doesn't seem like a lovey-dovey family man to me!