Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #3

[Paladine]

My hinky meter is up high on DS right now - I'm going out on a limb here.

Would DS have checked herself into a psych facility? Either with good reason or future defense reasons?

This could explain why a certain defense attorney may have been forbidden to talk to his client at the moment.I'm curious that we've heard nothing about DS' whereabouts since the combined sorrow statement from JS & DS re MS.

No indication that DS returned to AZ for MS' funeral.

Something's going on.

RBBM

It certainly could. Great theory, imo. I also wondered if the client could be a minor and a parent could retain, yet, possibly restrict? Or another parent could restrict? Not sure on the legalities of that. I'm not saying the minor did any 'wrong', so to speak...but to watch out for the best interest of the child, during the investigation, who may have been present during Maxies accident/fall.

 

[pferrin]

http://news.lalate.com/2011/07/24/r...-zahau-suffered-murder-staged-suicide-doctor/ forensic psychologist says he believes it is murder staged to look like suicide.

 

[Carrington]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...ommit-suicide-jonah-shacknai-coronado-mansion think that this is interesting ...Mary Loehner..Rebecca's sis is planning a memorial for Rebecca..doesn't know if JS will be there. hmmmm

Wonder if her body has been released

IMO

 

[justbetweenus]

My hinky meter is up high on DS right now - I'm going out on a limb here.

Would DS have checked herself into a psych facility? Either with good reason or future defense reasons?

This could explain why a certain defense attorney may have been forbidden to talk to his client at the moment.

I'm curious that we've heard nothing about DS' whereabouts since the combined sorrow statement from JS & DS re MS.

No indication that DS returned to AZ for MS' funeral.

Something's going on.

Very possible Quester. Concering the lawyer being sent away, did he come to the mansion and was forbidden from there? I'm thinking it would have been sealed off by then as a crime scene. Maybe he just came on his own thinking someone might be needing his service? I don't know. I hope we don't have to wait too long for answers. I need to clean my house lol

 

[pferrin]

DS sister had been at the hospital ..could she be involved?

 

[Quester]

DS sister had been at the hospital ..could she be involved?

Good point!

However, I would think that DS' sister would serve more-so as a voice of reason, a cooler head.

But, then again, who knows?

 

[gngr~snap]

Hi guys. I'm headed back to the first thread to read about this case. I may answer myself, but before I forget...do I understand correctly she was reported to be hanging when found and when 911 got there she had been taken down?-

I question this because I would hope an autopsy would show whether she was srangled (force being applied inward)or hung where choking force would be in a more upward motion from body weight.

In nursing school I attended an autopsy of an older man who hung himself. When hey took the rope off I was shocked! His neck was the size if his ankle. Can't imagine a person could apply that kind of force. Perhaps she was choked to death and the rope /power cord was meant to hide it.
Her being bound may also prove to be done after the fact.
off to cathch up!

 

[pferrin]

I'm not saying that DS sis did anything..I remember DS mom said that DS and her sis were both staying at the hospital. POI list is growing for me.

 

[justbetweenus]

Who else do you think is involved and how?

At this moment (subject to change lol) I'm thinking someone we don't know/or should say haven't heard of yet. Someone that may be mad at JS and partially blame him too for Rebecca caring for Max.

Sometimes I do wonder about JS but then how many times do you hear of a husband/bf kill/hang their spouse and leave the body in the house? I think they would take her to the woods and hang her somewhere. If she was just simply hanged to make like a suicide, yes I could see that, but I'm thinking this death is more violent.

ETA. I should have added in my first par. that I believe it is someone from Dina's circle.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Thanks ...my link was statistics from 2007. Even this link from 2004 shows firearms as being at 32.4% for women with poisoning at 37.8%...hanging, which includes strangulation and suffocation, sits at 19.7%, interestingly, enough...not such a popular choice, it would seem.

I guess it is all to do with perception. 1356 deaths due to hangings, ligatures and suffocations is a lot of lives lost imo.

It shows it isn't uncommon.

I just read that the suicide rate rose in 2008 but in 2009 it leveled off again.

It sure shows a lot of people commit suicide each year though. More than those who are murdered in our country yearly. That is terribly sad.

imo

 

[Quester]

Hi guys. I'm headed back to the first thread to read about this case. I may answer myself, but before I forget...do I understand correctly she was reported to be hanging when found and when 911 got there she had been taken down?-

I question this because I would hope an autopsy would show whether she was srangled (force being applied inward)or hung where choking force would be in a more upward motion from body weight.

In nursing school I attended an autopsy of an older man who hung himself. When hey took the rope off I was shocked! His neck was the size if his ankle. Can't imagine a person could apply that kind of force. Perhaps she was choked to death and the rope /power cord was meant to hide it.
Her being bound may also prove to be done after the fact.
off to cathch up!

Hi gngr~snap,

Yes, to your first question. RN was discovered by AS who stated he cut her down, attempted some life-saving technique and called 911. Order?

When emergency personnel arrived she was, therefore, on the ground

Yikes on the neck – ankle comment.

We’ve talked about staged suicide – which it’s sounding more like this could be.

See you when you catch up!

 

[Lawgirl]

IMO I don't think she would have done this herself. But I do believe she is involved.

Well this is interesting because the thought occurred to me that if AS was in the guest house and heard loud music coming from the house...wouldn't he have at least called the main house to make sure everthing is alright. I mean...they are mourning the child's condition in the hospital and I say mourning because he was brain dead. Did he simply chose to ignore the music/party and get back to sleep? If this is what is proposed, I would find it a bit hard to believe. If the neighbors heard it, then he must have heard it too. Maybe he knows more than he is telling so as to no incriminate anyone or even himself.

 

[Carrington]

Why not just walk across the street to the ocean?
Seems so much easier, than this rigmarole.
IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Very possible Quester. Concering the lawyer being sent away, did he come to the mansion and was forbidden from there? I'm thinking it would have been sealed off by then as a crime scene. Maybe he just came on his own thinking someone might be needing his service? I don't know. I hope we don't have to wait too long for answers. I need to clean my house lol

I thought I just read an article here today that said LE would not let him enter the premises.

IMO

 

[Lawgirl]

I thought I just read an article here today that said LE would not let him enter the premises.

IMO

And rightfully so. It's not fair that just because someone has tons of money to afford to "hit the ground running" with a lawyer that they should arrive at the scene of the crime and attempt to begin a defense...come on... wait for the evidence to be analyzed like everyone else.

 

[Lawgirl]

I do wish Rebecca's family would speak out again..but I know this is a difficult time for them.

If her family comes out again, then maybe we can bring the spot light back to this case with the general media. Who knew PR firms did their job sooo dam well. It must be nice to be able to afford to manipulate the media like that... *sarcastic*

 

[scorekeeper]

And rightfully so. It's not fair that just because someone has tons of money to afford to "hit the ground running" with a lawyer that they should arrive at the scene of the crime and attempt to begin a defense...come on... wait for the evidence to be analyzed like everyone else.

I remember reading it somewhere or saw it on TV but it is now recommended (by defense attorneys) that if anyone is "at the scene" of an alleged crime, they need to lawyer up and not talk to LE........is it a sales ploy????

I can remember talk on the H. Dunn link that BJD needed to get an attorney....

 

[Money Girl]

Will never believe RN was a suicide.

Very wealthy people can put a hit on someone very easily.

 

[justbetweenus]

Well this is interesting because the thought occurred to me that if AS was in the guest house and heard loud music coming from the house...wouldn't he have at least called the main house to make sure everthing is alright. I mean...they are mourning the child's condition in the hospital and I say mourning because he was brain dead. Did he simply chose to ignore the music/party and get back to sleep? If this is what is proposed, I would find it a bit hard to believe. If the neighbors heard it, then he must have heard it too. Maybe he knows more than he is telling so as to no incriminate anyone or even himself.

It wouldn't surprise me if it was Adam. Do we know for sure if he has gone home?

 

[Lawgirl]

I remember reading it somewhere or saw it on TV but it is now recommended (by defense attorneys) that if anyone is "at the scene" of an alleged crime, they need to lawyer up and not talk to LE........is it a sales ploy????

I can remember talk on the H. Dunn link that BJD needed to get an attorney....

I suppose that makes sense now that I think of it. To want to enter the scene of the crime while they are still investigating all the evidence is a bit presumptious I think.