Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #4

[IzzyBlanche]

Some may have thought she was bordering on abusive to the youngest. Once MS was accidentally injured, JS blamed RN based on those intimations of abuse.

Who thought she was bordering on abusive?

[snipped]

RN's known kinky intimate tastes.

Known by who?

Please provide mainstream media sources for these allegations.

 

[gngr~snap]

Very interesting, thank you.

I wish there was more in the article about the killer making a 911 call when the victim has been dead for a while - in other words, they just walk in and find them already dead.

Here is the full FBI article!
http://www2.fbi.gov/publications/leb/2008/june2008/june2008leb.htm



Cindy Anthony's 911 call is in this one.:giggle:
http://behindthecrime.wordpress.com/about/911-homicide-calls-is-the-killing-calling/

This site is referenced in the site above. ^^^
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/575793/exploring_the_inner_workings_of_a_911.html?cat=8

 

[Paladine]

http://www.10news.com/news/28689113/detail.html

Forensic Expert Discusses Coronado Death Investigation

--snipped----

The deaths that occurred at a Coronado mansion two weeks ago have not only grabbed the attention of San Diego but the attention of experts such as Dr. Werner Spitz.

RBBM

Spitz, who was in San Diego to testify in another case, spoke with 10News about Max Shacknai's fall down the grand staircase at his father's mansion and the mysterious death of his father's girlfriend, Rebecca Zahau, two days later.

"You have to consider them as one incident…not one body, one occurrence… and solve it together," said Spitz.

"Could it be that the head injury was not from a fall?" said Spitz. "Perhaps this is all an argument where the dead person cannot talk. But you know, the dead person can talk by telling the medical examiner what really happened."

Man, Spitz impresses me, at times...most times, actually...this time ESPECIALLY. Thanks for this...I've been out actually living up to some responsibilities, today...WAY behind.

 

[branwynbreeze]

Here is the full FBI article!
http://www2.fbi.gov/publications/leb/2008/june2008/june2008leb.htm



Cindy Anthony's 911 call is in this one.:giggle:
http://behindthecrime.wordpress.com/about/911-homicide-calls-is-the-killing-calling/

This site is referenced in the site above. ^^^
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/575793/exploring_the_inner_workings_of_a_911.html?cat=8

Great link. Thanks.

 

[Paladine]

Who thought she was bordering on abusive?

[snipped]



Known by who?

Please provide mainstream media sources for these allegations.

I BELIEVE that statement by justice be served was prefaced by it being a theory or an opinion ETA: at end of post:

(Just my little opinion based on the blogs.)

...since they are a new poster, the wording throughout the post may have veered to what appeared to be posted as fact...I'm not sure it was intentional.

New posters need to remember if one cannot provide a link, it must clearly be stated as a theory...throughout the post...ALL imo, of course. It can be hard to learn...but it is learned...or peeps will ask for links.

 

[scorekeeper]

We don't know the details and which one of them argued about what.
Usually people assume it's the father who was not happy, but we don't know that for that particular case, do we?

Well, we do have DS telling JS to not leave her......I don't have the direct quote but it seemed he had his mind made up....

 

[time]

Here is the full FBI article!
http://www2.fbi.gov/publications/leb/2008/june2008/june2008leb.htm



Cindy Anthony's 911 call is in this one.:giggle:
http://behindthecrime.wordpress.com/about/911-homicide-calls-is-the-killing-calling/

This site is referenced in the site above. ^^^
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/575793/exploring_the_inner_workings_of_a_911.html?cat=8

Thanks so much snappy!

 

[justbetweenus]

I hope I don't get in trouble for saying this (hopefully this is okay with the Moderator)...but there's some confusion here to the relation: GS is not related to DS, so I don't think this scenario is even slightly possible. GS is from the 1st marriage; MS is from the 2nd, so they are considered "half" brother/sister.

I think she was aware of that as she mentions it further down in her post.

 

[gngr~snap]

I hope I don't get in trouble for saying this (hopefully this is okay with the Moderator)...but there's some confusion here to the relation: GS is not related to DS, so I don't think this scenario is even slightly possible. GS is from the 1st marriage; MS is from the 2nd, so they are considered "half" brother/sister.

:waitasec: that is what I thought I just didn't call him "half"
but I changed my mind on that part.
maybe she was carrying him down the stairs.
If she was headed home anyway maybe they were carring luggage?
Tripped on a blanket?
without autopsy results who knows!

 

[justbetweenus]

Here is the full FBI article!
http://www2.fbi.gov/publications/leb/2008/june2008/june2008leb.htm



Cindy Anthony's 911 call is in this one.:giggle:
http://behindthecrime.wordpress.com/about/911-homicide-calls-is-the-killing-calling/

This site is referenced in the site above. ^^^
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/575793/exploring_the_inner_workings_of_a_911.html?cat=8

Thank-you so much gngr. VERY interesting, I have to save this one.

 

[Paladine]

Speculation....

I know we discussed this before, could it have been possible for Maxie to be a special needs child?

God bless him.......

Speculation, yes, scorekeeper, but that came from his Mother...it was in the accusations that flew back and forth...and special needs? Unless I've missed something, as far as I've seen, THAT'S more speculative than anything; I've seen no indication of that. I volunteer and donate to the Cancer Society...but I don't have cancer, and, no one in my family currently does (knock on wood, God willing, and all that).

No one should get ANGRY about a child wetting a bed...as if that helps anything, and if true...imo, he's a nut.

 

[jstwondering]

How can you get mad about a child wetting a bed?
Someone has rage issues.

Especially, IIRC, this took place in 2008? so if MS was 6 in 2011, he was all of 3 then? How do you get mad at a 3 year old boy for wetting a bed? I think its pretty normal to have accidents when 3 years old.

 

[i.b.nora]

Where is the original story about bedwetting, does anyone have a link?

 

[justbetweenus]

Where is the original story about bedwetting, does anyone have a link?

Thank-you, I'm wondering too.

 

[jstwondering]

Thanks for the kind words, jstwondering!

I completely agree with you on your paranoid statement [haha - that didn't come out right but you know what I mean].

And also, very nice addition of the phrase: "self-fulfilling prophecy"! If true, it does add an interesting and fateful dimension to this double tragedy.

BBM ha ha ha... :floorlaugh: Yes, I'm always getting into trouble with my "paranoid statements"!

 

[scorekeeper]

gngr-snap,

Thanks so much for the FBI information on 911 call information. Very good read!!

score

re-posted:

http://www2.fbi.gov/publications/leb/2008/june2008/june2008leb.htm

scroll down for 911 overview.....

 

[10-6Mom]

http://www.10news.com/news/28534601/detail.html

- Police officers responding to a report of a possible death
shortly before 7 a.m. Wednesday found a woman in "distress"
at the 27-room manor, according to the San Diego County Sheriff's Department...and called in paramedics to administer aid
The police were responding to a death! Why would they call in medics?
* I don't know sounds lke she may have had a pulse. Why would they have brought the cervical collar if she was dead? :banghead:

Remember her trainer said she was a fighter!

Just an FYI, it is standard for police and medics to both be dispatched in cases like this one. Generally speaking, if there was obvious signs of death (decomposition, rigor) then medics could be cancelled by LE prior to arrival. Police officers in California generally receive basic first aid and don't have the
authority or training to pronounce someone deceased, again unless it is real obvious. Even in cases, such as hangings, where it is somewhat obvious, medics have the equipment to determine that the individual is deceased. Given what LITTLE facts we have (GRRRR) CPD officers could have been covering their butts, by calling medics. But on the flip side why would they want more people in the crime scene than necessary??:banghead::banghead:

 

[mentalsolstice]

:waitasec: that is what I thought I just didn't call him "half"
but I changed my mind on that part.
maybe she was carrying him down the stairs.
If she was headed home anyway maybe they were carring luggage?
Tripped on a blanket?
without autopsy results who knows!

I like the way you think for the most part, but I think implicating a minor, or a mom causing physical injury to her child to disrupt an engagement party is a little out there.

To think Mom would try to cause a minor bodily injury to her child would be a hard undertaking, especially if she wasn't present at the scene. If she wanted disrupt the engagement party, there are more controlled ways to do that where your child ends up living and healthy. She could have given him sour milk, rotten eggs, bad meat on Sunday thru early Tuesday, the day of the party, and guilted JS into cancelling the party because his son was in the ER. And she could've done those things, and claimed MS was in RN's custody when he ingested those things. Max would've been more likely to pull through food poisoning, allergens. etc., than he would have a TBI. I just don't see an educated mom plotting to throw her child down the stairs thinking he would suffer minor injuries...just to disrupt the ex's engagement party.

However, DS is still at the top of my POIs.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I BELIEVE that statement by justice be served was prefaced by it being a theory or an opinion ETA: at end of post: ...since they are a new poster, the wording throughout the post may have veered to what appeared to be posted as fact...I'm not sure it was intentional.

New posters need to remember if one cannot provide a link, it must clearly be stated as a theory...throughout the post...ALL imo, of course. It can be hard to learn...but it is learned...or peeps will ask for links.

Thank you. Yes, I know the OP stated it was his/her theory--but every theory must have some facts embedded in it, and the two statements that I bolded were presented as fact, it seemed to me.

Next thing you know those things will be repeated as fact and become fact in people's minds, just like the "fact" that the loud music was heard around 1:00 a.m.

I have asked on these threads, no one in particular, where the 1:00 a.m. time came from and no one seems to know, and I can't find a source, but it is now repeated as fact in everyone's speculations.

This kind of thing makes it so confusing to separate fact from rumor, especially in light of the dearth of official information.

I find it very frustrating.

:twocents:

 

[Paladine]

Where is the original story about bedwetting, does anyone have a link?

I remember a link being posted...it wasn't me, though. It was in with the divorce allegations, I think? Anyone else recall? Maybe Time, do you recall?

(my daughter is pushing for the laptop...I'll look later, if ya'll haven't found it by then...)