Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #5

[Paladine]

The only thing I know for sure at this point is: That the delays of releasing real information by LE to the press has done its job -- if that was indeed the desired effect of the clam up. The spotlight on this case has been diminished to a sliver of light - and I truly hope that WS carries on the mission of looking for the truth in spite of the dearth of information. LE, however, does owe the public information -- and it has to be coming soon!!!

I have a sliver of faith that some in the media are simply waiting...waiting like we are to see what is released, autopsies and such. When I listened to the presser there were some good questions asked...most just weren't answered, imo: No Comment.

BUT....once info starts coming out, good luck in stopping us! People on this forum will be going over it with a fine-toothed comb...so far, this case has almost nothing released, more or less... WAIT. Just wait. Once we have evidence and if it's deemed a crime, I bet we'll get even more experienced, resourceful, posters on this thread and boy, watch them go!

We are watching. Many others are watching. We will not let justice be denied. Casey isn't having alot of fun, yet, I'd venture a guess. Public opinion matters.

 

[justice be served]

IMO...let's assume this is a person who has alot of anger and rage issues (possibly evidenced by the scene), and is used to being 'in control' and being able to 'fix' most things, as most powerful men feel, imo...HE is the center of the Universe. Now, let's assume, his Child is brain dead and no amount of money, power or connections can fix it...maybe there is no one to blame and it was a sad, sad, accident.

Could be less about 'blame' and more about a mans lack of control and level of rage, when it came to his grief at loss of his Son? Maybe he was raging and someone was going to pay...IMO and IME, some powerful men, businessmen, sucessful men, keep it SO under control when they are 'out there' in the real world...when they get home, all h#ll can break loose.

Paladine -- I think you really keyed in here on this portion of your quote

"....and no amount of money, power or connections can fix it"

- (sorry but haven't figured out yet how to bold tho I'll work on it) -

I believe IMO that a true megalomaniac DOES believe he can fix anything -- but poor Max couldn't be fixed and he knew it at that time of his rage and somebody had to pay IMO. So sad all of it.

 

[4Jacy]

Well,...I hope I don't get banned for this, however, if RN had any neglience in Maxie's death......I too would have...............................(If I were JS or Dina) :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: (you get it, right?) If you don't, RN would be dead!!!

 

[mentalsolstice]

Imo, it shows that all suicide victims cant be lumped into one because they are individuals..separate from each other. There is nothing set in stone showing how a suicidal person must act before they carry out their premeditated act.

There is no guarantee that a suicide victim will give off any red flags before they commit suicide though jjenny.

If it was that simple and red flags were always present more people would be saved from themselves by family members and friends rather than around 5,600 females and 25,000 males who are able to accomplish committing suicide every year.

A lot of families wrestle with the "not knowing" and "why" for the rest of their lives when someone they loved committed suicide.

IMO

ITA, I really wish we could stop talking about suicide victims as if "one size fits all." Each one is as individual as their own DNA.

 

[arielilane]

I had to come back and glad I did.

Bonepile that's the images I saw one time and they disappeared. I could not find them anywhere. I looked for a day or so. Good find!

Hey if you can't find what you need go to the bonepile.



The is where the assailant(s) screwed up.

Look at the position of the head. If AS carried her from the balcony her head would be closer to the table at the opposite angle. Envision a man carrying a women. His right arm under her knees, left arm supporting the head/shoulders. Even if he walked backward the cord would have trailed from the balcony instead of the right.

Looking at the image
His path would have been upper left to lower right. Her head and feet angled in the other direction. In all actuality he carried her from upper right of the picture to lower left direction and the cord drug behind.

That cord is saying we came from over there.

The table forced the deviation in the path onto the grass. The knees are apart and should have fell together indicating AS put her down post RM.

His account is not accurate with the visual evidence in the scene.

The rope on the lower rung or below the balcony rung does not make sense.
If she hung her self she would have had to jump directly into the wall

That is why I have been claiming "staged scene" since the beginning.

This case is about all the wrong personalities clashing together and causing a train wreck.

Now that I could see the image again up it to 93%

Oh,
I don't think EMT touched her. she was in RM and they saw it. If not they would have position her body to stabilize her.... being that we see her in that position I don't think they touch her. Look at how far everything is from her. I would guess they did a visual and backed off.

This is one thing I'll say you may hear some deep stories that may sway your opinions. I'll rate that comment at about 70% possibility.

One thing for sure all of you guys are resourceful.

Inobu

Wowza, Inobu! That is a well thoughtout theory. Your detailed account and observation of the crime scene is remarkable.

 

[mentalsolstice]

Well I think that story ought to be pretty unusual. In a lot of these suicidal cases, relatives have at least an inkling a person is suicidal. From what I gather, most people do exhibit suicide warning signs.

From what you're gathering is so very wrong. I'm a survivor of several suicides and attempts by family and friends. Additionally, I was also a volunteer for our local crisis center which among other things runs a suicide prevention hotline. Although I did not work in that area, I did receive some mandatory training on suicides.

eta: To adhere to the opinion the relatives have an inkling, is hurtful in itself, as it then puts the burden of responsibility on them. I have an <unusual> in-law that is of the opinion that the suicide victim's next of kin should be held criminally responsible. I'm not accusing anyone here of thinking that. I'm just mentioning it as it illustrates the myths that surround the subject of suicide.

 

[arielilane]

Is anyone keeping up with Facebook accounts? I don't have a Facebook account.

 

[justice be served]

Well,...I hope I don't get banned for this, however, if RN had any neglience in Maxie's death......I too would have...............................:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: (you get it, right?)

My rage years are over -- after menopause hit! (I was hoping there was an acronym for that and I didn't have to say it!) I'm all about women's rights -- but, man, I could REALLY be MAD (corrected) back then!:waitasec:

 

[arielilane]

My cousin committed suicide and she called her mother and told her she was going to do it. It still left us all devastated and to this day wondering why.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I really don't think this looks so obvious. If it was so obviously a suicide, I presume police could have declared this a "suicide" already.

That is true and the police are evidently having problems proving it to be a homicide or they would have declared it already.

But in the end no matter which MOD is determined the scene and evidence will line up with whatever is declared.

Sometimes we as human beings tend to make things more complex than they really are.

IMO

 

[justice be served]

Is anyone keeping up with Facebook accounts? I don't have a Facebook account.

I don't either. It drives my kids crazy that I don't.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

ITA, I really wish we could stop talking about suicide victims as if "one size fits all." Each one is as individual as their own DNA.

I couldn't agree with you more.


IMO

 

[MizStery]

Is anyone keeping up with Facebook accounts? I don't have a Facebook account.

No,I don't arielilane. I am all about using the interrnet but I do not even own a cell phone. I have a land phone. I take my iPad with me so I can get or send e-mails. I love to read so I always have my e book library with me. Another confession....Oh,the horror of it all I am 'so old school' I do not send or receive text messages. :wink:

 

[arielilane]

ITA, I really wish we could stop talking about suicide victims as if "one size fits all." Each one is as individual as their own DNA.

Well stated. I too volunteered for the local Suicide Prevention Center (years ago) and couldn't agree with you more.

 

[arielilane]

No,I don't arielilane. I am all about using the interrnet but I do not even own a cell phone. I have a land phone. I take my iPad with me so I can get or send e-mails. Another confession....Oh,the horror of it all I am 'so old school' I do not send or receive text messages. :wink:

no cellular!
At least your on the Internet! I know a guy no cellular or Internet. That is cave like.

O/T

 

[4Jacy]

My rage years are over -- after menopause hit! (I was hoping there was an acronym for that and I didn't have to say it!) I'm all about women's rights -- but, man, I could REALLY be MAD (corrected) back then!:waitasec:

Thank you for your post, justice. You are, a much better person then I could ever be. I have two wonderful sons, a d-i-l every mother shoud have, and five beyond wonderful grandchildren.

I have also passed meopause, however, IF ONE PERSON HURT ONE OF MY FAMILY, THE RAW RAGE WOULD COME OUT!!!!

 

[Bonepile]

But the greatest thing of all is the opportunity to come here to this site and share our thoughts and our impressions in a friendly constructive setting with people who still care and who still think.

 

[jjenny]

That is true and the police are evidently having problems proving it to be a homicide or they would have declared it already.

But in the end no matter which MOD is determined the scene and evidence will line up with whatever is declared.

Sometimes we as human beings tend to make things more complex than they really are.

IMO

Frankly I am not that convinced LE is always able to figure things out.
Just today I was reading about the guy accused of killing his third wife. Now LE is going to look at the supposed suicide case of his first wife from years ago, to see if they need to reopen that case.

 

[Inobu]

Imo, you are trying to read the minds of suicide victims locking in their perceived behavior and placing it into a tiny box for one size to fit all, Inobu.

You are wrong imo. The person contemplating suicide does not have to show outwardly signs. In fact they often cover up their suicidal thoughts especially to close loved ones and friends. They know if they slip and show them any other way that family members and friends can pick up on the signs and stop what they are wanting to do.

When my husband's 24 year old nephew killed himself with a shotgun he outwardly pretended to be happy and life was normal. That very night he went to a movie with his fiancée and out to eat after then and talked about looking forward to their wedding that was two months away. He kissed her goodnight and within 30-40 minutes he was laying dead in the front yard of his grandparents home.

IMO

I can only leave you with this.............

You cannot have darkness in light

and all people express the emotion in different manners it is up to the ones who care to learn and know their means of expression.

 

[justice be served]

Thank you for your post, justice. You are, a much better person then I could ever be. I have two wonderful sons, a d-i-l every mother shoud have, and five beyond wonderful grandchildren.

I have also passed meopause, however, IF ONE PERSON HURT ONE OF MY FAMILY, THE RAW RAGE WOULD COME OUT!!!!

4Jacy - For you to be involved in this very important cause - tells me that you are made of something special. Yes, you have passion for many things, but when push comes to shove you are about the right thing to do - so don't kid yourself!!!! I know these emotions are all related however..........and we are all about protecting those we love as mothers.