Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #6

[jjenny]

What if she left a communication of some kind which has not been released?

I don't think so.

 

[MyBelle]

As far as I can tell, the hospital has a duty to report injuries if they suspect abuse. Otherwise they would be reporting to the police all day long.

According to some news articles the child wasn't breathing on his own when first responders arrived. Do you really believe they would draw a conclusion on their own about abuse and not notify cops? I don't.

 

[defense101]

What if she left a communication of some kind which has not been released?

I think if RN had left a note, the suicide determination would have been made after the autopsy.

 

[jjenny]

According to some news articles the child wasn't breathing on his own when first responders arrived. Do you really believe they would draw a conclusion on their own about abuse and not notify cops? I don't.

Yes I really believe that. As far as I can tell, LE was not at all investigating the injury to Max until RN was found dead.

 

[believe09]

I think if RN had left a note, the suicide determination would have been made after the autopsy.

I wasnt specific enough-a statement of regret, a note, a line. Clearly if she had written a formal note, there would have been no question. Maybe she wrote a line or two about Maxie.

 

[defense101]

According to some news articles the child wasn't breathing on his own when first responders arrived. Do you really believe they would draw a conclusion on their own about abuse and not notify cops? I don't.

There were two people there that would have been able to relate to LE what happened, and maybe the injuries MS suffered showed that what they said did in fact happen.

 

[MyBelle]

What if she left a communication of some kind which has not been released?

Very possible. They sealed search warrants didn't they?

I think she may have disarmed the house's security system before she went outside. That mansion had to have had some kind of security system imo.

 

[sdcali]

That's news to me, considering that in quite a few recent cases police announced a suicide even before tox screen came back.

In general, LE does not announce suicides. There are more suicides on a daily basis in San Diego than you would even imagine--which I have learned from friends who are in LE. Many of the recent ones I have heard of in San Diego involve murder/suicide, so it makes the news via the murder aspect. One friend works the area of the Coronado Bridge and there are numerous attempts (and sadly, many successful) jumps that are never publicized.

It is generally not publicized, because when it is, more suicides occur. So sad to learn just how common it is.

 

[CalElliot]

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Kimster, this is such complex territory. If a community member posts regarding a opinion-based blog or citizen journalism site posting what are in essence rumors/unattributed statements about the case, or rumors embedded in fact, how is that not a rumor?

I ask this in all sincerity.

 

[scorekeeper]

fftobed:

I'll bet you a dollar we get a determination tomorrow......

 

[MyBelle]

There were two people there that would have been able to relate to LE what happened, and maybe the injuries MS suffered showed that what they said did in fact happen.

Sorry, but I seriously doubt the hospital didn't call cops. Their duty is to the child, not to the people trying to explain how a child ended up with massive, fatal injuries.

 

[CalElliot]

fftobed:

I'll bet you a dollar we get a determination tomorrow......

20 bucks

 

[defense101]

Sorry, but I seriously doubt the hospital didn't call cops. Their duty is to the child, not to the people trying to explain how a child ended up with massive, fatal injuries.

The cops were already at the house, they responded to the 911 call and they transported RN and the other female to the hospital and returned them to the house an hour later.

 

[4Jacy]

I wasnt specific enough-a statement of regret, a note, a line. Clearly if she had written a formal note, there would have been no question. Maybe she wrote a line or two about Maxie.

Perhaps she did, under duress. She wouldn't have shamed Maxie's honor by committing suicide nude!

 

[jjenny]

Sorry, but I seriously doubt the hospital didn't call cops. Their duty is to the child, not to the people trying to explain how a child ended up with massive, fatal injuries.

Again, the hospital has to call cops if they suspect abuse. If the hospital called cops for every injured child brought in, parents would be afraid to bring their kids to the hospital.

 

[sdcali]

The most recent media stories I read referred to unnamed sources. That's customary when LE goes off the record--which, btw, is allowed.

They are also allowed to say things that aren't true for their own purposes. I am in the "I believe it was a murder camp" and believe that if it were a suicide, LE would have made an announcement by now, not set up a specific web page to direct inquiries for this incident.

IMO, LE knows it was not a suicide and are carefully laying the groundwork for an arrest. My opinion is that LE is throwing out breadcrumbs and based on what information is "leaked off the record" someone may lower their defenses and slip up.

If you were the murderer and you thought that LE thought it was a suicide...you would act differently than if you thought LE was actively investigating and pursuing a suspect. But this is just all my own opinion, of course.

 

[mentalsolstice]

I'm still on the fence with this case. However, I'm going to ask Trish and the Mods to start a general thread about suicide. This thread alone (and I'm on the fence suicide/homicide) is indicative of the "generalizations" about suicide.

eta: each suicide is as unique as a fingerprint or DNA.

 

[jjenny]

In general, LE does not announce suicides. There are more suicides on a daily basis in San Diego than you would even imagine--which I have learned from friends who are in LE. Many of the recent ones I have heard of in San Diego involve murder/suicide, so it makes the news via the murder aspect. One friend works the area of the Coronado Bridge and there are numerous attempts (and sadly, many successful) jumps that are never publicized.

It is generally not publicized, because when it is, more suicides occur. So sad to learn just how common it is.

Well LE set up a special website for this particular case. So I have no doubt if LE rules this a suicide they will announce it.

 

[MyBelle]

The cops were already at the house, they responded to the 911 call and they transported RN and the other female to the hospital and returned them to the house an hour later.

Great, the cops could have interviewed her then. The hospital still had a duty under Cali's Mandatory Reporting statute.

JMO.

 

[sdcali]

It was run through a filter of his legal department imo.

If that is true, that's sad. Unless there was a legal reason to run it through his legal dept....