Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #6

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Mandatory reporting is law in California. To determine if it was an accident required police to at least ask questions. Has it occurred to you that the reason they decided to investigate Maxie's accident is because they didn't believe RN's version of events? If I was his parent, I sure wouldn't just accept that it was an accident. RN wasn't his parent and kids don't routinesly suffer massive, fatal injuries in their own homes.

JMO

No, it hasn't occurred to me the reason they decided to investigate Max's accident is because they didn't believe RN's version of events, considering LE has decided to investigate Max's accident because of RN's suspicious death.
 
  • #823
Mandatory reporting is law in California. To determine if it was an accident required police to at least ask questions. Has it occurred to you that the reason they decided to investigate Maxie's accident is because they didn't believe RN's version of events? If I was his parent, I sure wouldn't just accept that it was an accident. RN wasn't his parent and kids don't routinesly suffer massive, fatal injuries in their own homes.

JMO
No, I don't believe for a minute that they investigated his death because they didn't believe RN's version. They investigated it because of RN's death the second search warrant was issued because of her death. period. imo of course
 
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That's not a direct quote from LE. The same article states:

The cause of death in both incidents has not been released, pending toxicology and forensic testing.

At least the information is attributed to LE and not to "sources with the knowledge of the investigation." But you seem to find "sources with the knowledge of the investigation" quite believable for whatever reason.
 
  • #826
No, it hasn't occurred to me the reason they decided to investigate Max's accident is because they didn't believe RN's version of events, considering LE has decided to investigate Max's accident because of RN's suspicious death.

Maxie died AFTER RN. Why would they decide something they concluded was an accident would be any different just because the person who was responsible for his care died? To me, that doesn't make any sense at all unless they believed she was in some way responsible for Maxie's death.
 
  • #827
Cops are not allowed to use the media to say things that are not true. That's why it is called Freedom of the Press. No link so jmo.

IMO, the delays in this case aren't about Rebecca's death, they are about Maxie's. His death was entirely preventable imo.

The delays has nothing to do with MS and all to do with the sealed evidence, autopsy and pending toxicology results for RN death.

It was stated early on that the deaths are not related. The only way it can be related if there is a confession by an assailant or one/two of the three "witnesses"

Inobu
 
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The delays has nothing to do with MS and all to do with the sealed evidence, autopsy and pending toxicology results for RN death.

It was stated early on that the deaths are not related. The only way it can be related if there is a confession by an assailant or one/two of the three "witnesses"

Inobu

Sealed evidence isn't secret to investigators. There is a way the deaths can be related....as the news story quoted sources staing that RN felt responsible for Maxie's injuries. I think it is entirely possible that she was responsible. If she was, Maxie's parents are certainly entitled to the truth imo.
 
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Maxie died AFTER RN. Why would they decide something they concluded was an accident would be any different just because the person who was responsible for his care died? To me, that doesn't make any sense at all unless they believed she was in some way responsible for Maxie's death.
I haven't seen the search warrant, I just know that they did search the house with a second search warrant on Friday. We don;t know what happened in the house regarding MS, so assigning blame to a victim here imo is inappropriate.
 
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Maxie died AFTER RN. Why would they decide something they concluded was an accident would be any different just because the person who was responsible for his care died? To me, that doesn't make any sense at all unless they believed she was in some way responsible for Maxie's death.

It was publicly stated by police they only gave Max's death a second look because of RN's suspicious death. So how is it that it doesn't make sense to you?

"Corbin said that the police continue to approach the boy's July 11 fall as an accident, but are taking another look because of Zahau's death.

“It's something that needs to be investigated a bit further,” she said."
http://coronado.patch.com/articles/autopsy-to-be-conducted-on-jonah-shacknais-son
 
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I haven't seen the search warrant, I just know that they did search the house with a second search warrant on Friday. We don;t know what happened in the house regarding MS, so assigning blame to a victim here imo is inappropriate.

I am only forming an opinion based on the media stories and also the police information that places RN as the only adult present when Maxie's injuries were incurred. If that is assigning blame, then that is what they've done.

I also think it is inappropriate to dismiss Maxie's death as "just" an accident. He was a small child who deserves justice every bit as much as RN.
 
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Sealed evidence isn't secret to investigators. There is a way the deaths can be related....as the news story quoted sources staing that RN felt responsible for Maxie's injuries. I think it is entirely possible that she was responsible. If she was, Maxie's parents are certainly entitled to the truth imo.

Well that is just false since the "sources close to the investigation" (whoever they are) claimed RN felt "tremendous guilt" and not that she felt "responsible."
 
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I am only forming an opinion based on the media stories and also the police information that places RN as the only adult present when Maxie's injuries were incurred. If that is assigning blame, then that is what they've done.

I also think it is inappropriate to dismiss Maxie's death as "just" an accident. He was a small child who deserves justice every bit as much as RN.

A tragic accident is called a tragic accident for a reason. There is no "justice" for a tragic accident. Police has never once stated they believe Max's death was anything but a tragic accident, while RN's death could be either a murder or a suicide.
 
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It was publicly stated by police they only gave Max's death a second look because of RN's suspicious death. So how is it that it doesn't make sense to you?

"Corbin said that the police continue to approach the boy's July 11 fall as an accident, but are taking another look because of Zahau's death.

“It's something that needs to be investigated a bit further,” she said."
http://coronado.patch.com/articles/autopsy-to-be-conducted-on-jonah-shacknais-son

Again, I haven't seen police state that they only gave Max's death a second look because of RN's "suspicious" death. imo, they took a second look because people do kill themselves out of guilt or to avoid prosecution.
 
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Again, I haven't seen police state that they only gave Max's death a second look because of RN's "suspicious" death. imo, they took a second look because people do kill themselves out of guilt or to avoid prosecution.

That's why I provided a link with police spokes person stating that they are giving his death a second look because of RN's death. There is zero evidence anyone was going to prosecute her for anything since police was not considering the child's death as anything but an accident.
 
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I am only forming an opinion based on the media stories and also the police information that places RN as the only adult present when Maxie's injuries were incurred. If that is assigning blame, then that is what they've done.

I also think it is inappropriate to dismiss Maxie's death as "just" an accident. He was a small child who deserves justice every bit as much as RN.
Firstly RN wasn't the only person there, there was another female there as well. I never stated MS's accident the way you wrote, but in the end it was an accident and in accidents justice isn't looked for, and if it was then you could look to those who wanted justice ie "witnesses" imo
 
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I am only forming an opinion based on the media stories and also the police information that places RN as the only adult present when Maxie's injuries were incurred. If that is assigning blame, then that is what they've done.

I also think it is inappropriate to dismiss Maxie's death as "just" an accident. He was a small child who deserves justice every bit as much as RN.

I think that is where peoples perceptions of the event is skewed. MS death was an accident and he's not necessarily a victim. RN death's may be a retaliatory action making her a victim where as MS death was an accident.

If RN was shopping and a sitter was home instead, would be having this discussion. The question is would the sitter be dead instead?

This is why LE stated the deaths are not related until someone makes it so.

Inobu
 
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A tragic accident is called a tragic accident for a reason. There is no "justice" for a tragic accident. Police has never once stated they believe Max's death was anything but a tragic accident, while RN's death could be either a murder or a suicide.

That's just your opinion.

I haven't seen LE or ME rule Maxie's death a tragic accident. I have seen the reports they decided to look into his death and are investigating. You are stating facts that haven't even been released.
 
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I think that is where peoples perceptions of the event is skewed. MS death was an accident and he's not necessarily a victim. RN death's may be a retaliatory action making her a victim where as MS death was an accident.

If RN was shopping and a sitter was home instead, would be having this discussion. The question is would the sitter be dead instead?

This is why LE stated the deaths are not related until someone makes it so.

Inobu

I have not seen any LE or ME recently state that MS's death was an accident so how about a link? Thanks.

I can only go by what LE has released: RN was the only adult home at the time his injuries took place and LE decided to investigate Maxie's incident. I also know from my own experience that LE does not re-investigate an accident unless they have reason to believe it wasn't an accident.


JMO
 
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Kimster, this is such complex territory. If a community member posts regarding a opinion-based blog or citizen journalism site posting what are in essence rumors/unattributed statements about the case, or rumors embedded in fact, how is that not a rumor?

I ask this in all sincerity.


Links to media are allowed, unless for some reason a particular site has been blocked by WS. Some links go to MSM, some to other lesser known media. All media should be read with a grain of salt. Articles that are backed up by an allowed link may be discussed.

If you have additional questions, please let one of the mods know.

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