Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 1/15 thru 1/20 Break

[daisydomino]

Link please?

It's Jen from The Trial Diaries and her partners' subscription site, I believe.
http://www.trialtalklive.com/

I subscribed for a month. It's a good site and they do a great job. I only stopped my subscription in favor of Beth Karas' site and I just can't rationalize spending any more money (or time, either, really, but I manage with time) on trial watching.

 

[Kamille]

I mean, I think anyone, possibly all of us can say at one point we have been wronged in a relationship or two or three or what have you. Maybe we have wronged others. Who amongst us is perfect? Not me for sure. But for all my flaws- and ask around, they're many like anyone else - I've never come out of a relationship going "Yes I'm going to show him! I'll drive like 5 states away, rent a car, dye my hair, sex him up, take nudie photos, then murder him! Then for my next maneuver I shall go to this dude's house and we will grind, but first, gotta leave a voice mail acting like I wasn't there and stuff. Ugh murder is a lot of work. Tiger (because you know I call myself by my cat's name as most perfectly sane people are to do), why didn't you put on makeup?! " No. No. And no. Yeah, I'll admit one time I dated a guy for four years. He was acting weird, he'd used my computer, did not log out of Facebook, so I read his messages. He was up to something. He's still alive and we are friends, but not dating. There was no abuse. No drugs. No crazy stuff. No porn. To be honest, after I'm wronged in a relationship, all I want to do is not see that person. I'm like no, get away. I might drink, eat ice cream, have a sad, and dress my cat in sweaters. Maybe write bad poetry. But who really wants to see anyone who actually wronged them?

Can we take a poll on this?

BBM :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

I think I may have dressed a cat in a sweater a time or two. :thinking: But no men or cats were actually harmed when a relationship went south. As is what most people do. Move on.

MOO

 

[nowayout]

View attachment 67564I pity Dr. Geffner and I am looking forward to Dr. De Marte. I do not believe Jodi Arias is getting back on the stand. Let's get on with it. Many things in life begin and end. For the trial watchers this case will come and go and fade from the headlines. For the family, the inevitable appeals will be perpetual and this will never ever end. I pray for God to help them. Jodi Arias did so much more than kill Travis that day. MumMum died of a broken heart, literally. The entire family has severe PTSD. The damage is of biblical proportions, effecting marriages, jobs, children....generations of damage. I hope this jury gets it right. I'm so grateful to Juan Martinez for his zeal. He told them this will NOT stand, not on my watch. You want to fight on, fight on we will. In the absence of a father to wrap his arms around them, I imagine the steady resolve of Juan has been a guiding light of hope. Some situations in life just cry out for a hero.

Rest in peace Travis and MumMum

That was absolutely beautiful ZoeyW, Thank you so much.

 

[Becky Sharp]

I mean, I think anyone, possibly all of us can say at one point we have been wronged in a relationship or two or three or what have you. Maybe we have wronged others. Who amongst us is perfect? Not me for sure. But for all my flaws- and ask around, they're many like anyone else - I've never come out of a relationship going "Yes I'm going to show him! I'll drive like 5 states away, rent a car, dye my hair, sex him up, take nudie photos, then murder him! Then for my next maneuver I shall go to this dude's house and we will grind, but first, gotta leave a voice mail acting like I wasn't there and stuff. Ugh murder is a lot of work. Tiger (because you know I call myself by my cat's name as most perfectly sane people are to do), why didn't you put on makeup?! " No. No. And no. Yeah, I'll admit one time I dated a guy for four years. He was acting weird, he'd used my computer, did not log out of Facebook, so I read his messages. He was up to something. He's still alive and we are friends, but not dating. There was no abuse. No drugs. No crazy stuff. No porn. To be honest, after I'm wronged in a relationship, all I want to do is not see that person. I'm like no, get away. I might drink, eat ice cream, have a sad, and dress my cat in sweaters. Maybe write bad poetry. But who really wants to see anyone who actually wronged them?

Can we take a poll on this?

Lol, Tiger. Good to know that my own coping method--drinking wine and talking to my cats and dog--isn't as crazy as I thought. Sadly, only the dog listens. The cats, after they realize I'm not talking about them, soon walk away.

 

[Tiger09]

My cat moos. It's this weird meow that's like a howl almost. He won't stop till he gets these treats my bf got him called Dreamies.

 

[MeeBee]

Juror 3 just finished.

 

[ZoeyW]

Thanks, ZoeyW. So Nurmi suggested in opening that JA killed TA in self-defense. What witness other than JA can explain exactly what happened then? Impossible to believe the mere mention in Nurmi's opening remarks of TA body slamming JA in the bathroom would mean anything without the who-what-why-hows.

A reporter asked Linda Kenney Baden ( Casey Anthony Attorney ) wont Baez have to PROVE what he alleged in his opening statement. She answered "No. We don't have to prove anything. We just have to hint at it, plant the seed. That is all."

 

[TexMex]

Juror 3 just finished.

Did she have any insight on the case?

 

[MeeBee]

Did she have any insight on the case?

Yeah now that the secret's out she was able to talk about her impressions of Jodi. She's not impressed lol. She didn't find the things she talked about in her childhood to be that big of a deal. A wooden spoon. Some drugs maybe. So what? She said they make these things sound persistent when Jodi can only talk about a couple incidents. No pattern. She finds Willmott grating. She appreciates Juan's style. She thought Jodi driving to confront the new girlfriend of an ex was very odd, even as Jodi told it. She thinks the jurors are in it for the long haul. And she is dying to know what triggered the argument between her and Travis. Other than that it was nothing noteworthy. She was leaning toward the state.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

If Jodi gets DP; can't they separate from each other? Meaning, isn't that the reason for the "donations"? To get another attorney?

If she thinks Nurmi is a dud, she had better wake up and realize that she will see what a real dud looks like if she thinks the imaginary $30K is going to get her a top notch appeals attorney.

 

[AZlawyer]

AZlawyer, if you come back tonight, I have a question. Remember the little poll taken on WS of when we bet the trial will end? You said February 5th. I was watching Beth Karas and she said "It will be March. Mark my words.". Her opinion only. I was starting to think June until yesterday! Lol. I am wondering why you think Beth would say March? She didn't explain and I am puzzled. I thought the defense had no more witnesses except for Geffner and Juan is pretty fast with witnesses. Do you think Jodi will take the stand and finish her testimony? Her allocution cannot be very long. I am hopeful this can be over very soon. It was really getting to me this week. Oh and one more thing, BK seems to think the defense will bring in more about the computers. Why?

March is a good guess if you think there will be real live mitigation witnesses in February--and if you assume they will have scheduling problems, hissy fits, etc.--and probably you would need Jodi to yammer on for another couple of days too.

The computer testimony is probably not QUITE over because JM may have someone come on to say, look, Flores was not downloading porn at 11 pm (the hour of perversion per Dr. F) on a work night on an evidence computer.

 

[MarVa]

Can Juan Martinez use Jodi's tweets against her? She sounds so...I don't know...hard...tough...kind of like a 1930s gangster moll. Tough-talking females usually don't go over so well with people.

 

[ElleElle]

Wow! I just read the denial of DP motion.

I gotta say, they sure accumulated but JSS came through! :loveyou::judge:

 

[TexMex]

Exactly. Travis grew up neglected. Jodi was loved, well fed, had a clean home. Travis's parents were drug abusers. Jodi's were small business owners. The things she describes are basically a teen age girl who is raging at her mom. Dad intervenes and she hit a door frame. I doubt she lost consciousness.
Glad they are picking up on confronting rivals. Jodi decides when things become "official". The relationship isn't "officially" over until Jodi says it's over.

 

[MeeBee]

Oh and she also said she doesn't think this porn stuff will amount to much. If it was child porn yes. But what young man hasn't watched a little porn? Nor will they find the sex stuff and the pictures and all that shocking.

 

[daisydomino]

I was just reading a few chapters from Travis's book titled RAISING YOU: STUMBLING BLOCKS AND STEPPING STONES. I was surprised when I saw this: "Chapter Eight: The Siamese Twins." That was the name of the porn site, wasn't it? This chapter just talks about success and failure. Travis gives examples of how some of the most successful people first experienced failure time after time.

Here's the only thing he mentioned about Siamese twins in this chapter:

"The difference between failure and success is simply that there is no difference. In fact, with the exception of how they are spelled, they are exactly the same. They are much like conjoined twins. They have the same characteristics and where one goes so goes the other. You never can have true success without having failure."

Sorry to quote you again, but this is so epic. It's a minor point in the scheme of things, but this case has so many head scratchers that will never never never ever have answers. You got us one. This is what (IMO of course) Websleuths is all about. Excellent job!

 

[ElleElle]

Can Juan Martinez use Jodi's tweets against her? She sounds so...I don't know...hard...tough...kind of like a 1930s gangster moll. Tough-talking females usually don't go over so well with people.

I don't think so because he can only cross on her witnesses. AZL, will correct if wrong.

Too bad Juan, Flores, Melendez couldn't file file harasment charges against Jodi.

I don't get this page photocopy from a book thing? It was a legal document? Color me confused on that one. Can someone explain this?

"Defendant’s rights were violated by the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office. Specifically, Defendant alleges three incidents support her claim. First, Defendant alleges her jail cell was searched by jail personnel in February 2014. Second, in February 2014, the mitigation specialist was denied entrance to the jail after taking the defendant’s drawings with her after a jail visit. Jail personnel deemed the drawings to be contraband. Finally, in May 2014, a legal document (a photocopy of a book) was taken from the defendant’s cell during a jail search. Defendant “suspects” the book was copied and provided to the prosecutor."

 

[TexMex]

Oh and she also said she doesn't think this porn stuff will amount to much. If it was child porn yes. But what young man hasn't watched a little porn? Nor will they find the sex stuff and the pictures and all that too shocking.

IIRC Juan said IF the child porn Jodi alleges were true then Travis would have been the first pedophile in the history of pedophila to not have one questionable picture of a child on his computer

 

[AZlawyer]

I don't think so because he can only cross on her witnesses. AZL, will correct if wrong.

Too bad Juan, Flores, Melendez couldn't file file harasment charges against Jodi.

I don't get this page photocopy from a book thing? It was a legal document? Color me confused on that one. Can someone explain this?

"Defendant’s rights were violated by the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office. Specifically, Defendant alleges three incidents support her claim. First, Defendant alleges her jail cell was searched by jail personnel in February 2014. Second, in February 2014, the mitigation specialist was denied entrance to the jail after taking the defendant’s drawings with her after a jail visit. Jail personnel deemed the drawings to be contraband. Finally, in May 2014, a legal document (a photocopy of a book) was taken from the defendant’s cell during a jail search. Defendant “suspects” the book was copied and provided to the prosecutor."

I don't think he could bring up her tweets anyway, because she hasn't said anything relevant that I know of. Even assuming he could prove she was behind them at all.

 

[daisydomino]

I don't think he could bring up her tweets anyway, because she hasn't said anything relevant that I know of. Even assuming he could prove she was behind them at all.

She can't be. They are so obviously damaging to her mitigation statements. If I were JA, I'd be taking a hard look right now at the true allegiance of her trusted Tweeter.

Gosh.