Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 11/3/14 Hearing - Part 2

[bznbear]

The dates of the alleged access of websites listed here are suspicious. They are all 5/28 and after. 5/28 was after Jodi made the decision to murder Travis. And, again, she was messing with his computer that day. So Travis just decided to start wathving on May 28th? Something stinks.

So the question is:

Did LE purposefully alter evidence? I think it's highly unlikely but we'll see what happens and what Juan's rebuttal to this is.

And just a few days later JACK butchers him? Oh, this just keeps getting sicker! Juan is gonna go medieval on Nurmi's a**, imo!

 

[Nana46]

And just a few days later JACK butchers him? Oh, this just keeps getting sicker! Juan is gonna go medieval on Nurmi's a**, imo!

I hate to ask this question as I feel I should know but who is Jack? Thanks!

 

[Hatfield]

Somewhat OT, but related...
I am sure most everyone here that has a PC also uses a good Anti-virus software utility that is on your PC.

If you want to scare yourself, open up your main Antivirus Application Menu., and there is usually a place you can see "Reports" or "History" of any activity that the utility has removed or deleted for you.

Its usually in the Firewall OR Internet Security areas.

When finding these reports and/or activity, you will usually be amazed at how often your PC was "attacked" by malicious files, tracking cookies, etc.

My Norton gives a monthly report of such activity and I find stuff it catches at least once a month. Its very scary stuff and which is why it is so important to have a good trustworthy antivirus software running all the time and be updated.
The "signature files" are lists of known malware that are updated regularly by the antivirus software companies because they keep track of all the known attacks and add them to the signature files. The software uses these files to recognize known bad files and bad website links to prevent your PC or device from going there or downloading it to your PC.

This is why they ask you to keep your software "updated". They download fresh signature files periodically.
Which is also how they keep you having to pay every so often for the pay-ones. But I dont mind because mine works great and I have never had a true virus using the one I use. I pay a yearly fee for mine.

If your "signature files" are out of date or your software is out of date. It usually still runs and helps your PC. It is just that it may not catch some of the new viruses. So it is good to always keep up to date but it does not mean it is not still helping if it gets old on you.

If it is de-activated, that is a big concern. LOL

 

[geevee]

I hate to ask this question as I feel I should know but who is Jack? Thanks!

Jodi Arias Convicted Killer

 

[Nana46]

Jodi Arias Convicted Killer

Thank you! I love that one! JACK!!!1

 

[Frigga]

Well, the silver lining is that this horrifying stunt is going to show all the world (I hope Mr Z the previous foreman is paying attention) EXACTLY what Jodi Arias was up to and capable of. This situation will leave absolutely no doubt in anyones mind who the tormentor and abuser was. This really solidifies and magnifies the premeditation aspect.

This is going to backfire on her like Armageddon has been unleashed.

 

[bznbear]

JM is going to jump all over that 6/10/08 date, it makes Nurmi's scenario impossible. And that the analysis isn't complete, and won't be until after the retrial is over so she doesn't know what she doesn't know? Let's hope tweeters are allowed for the evidentiary hearing (although I doubt it) but I'd like to read a full accounting of what Nurmi says he has, to me it reads like baloney.

To me, it reads like out and out prevarication!

 

[Nore]

I swear to God if JA. was in my family I would totally disown her. I would change my name if I had to. She is a vile, self loving butcher who cares for no one but herself. She kills Travis then goes on to tear him apart piece by piece . I do hope his family reads here. They will understand we do not believe any of this. Travis did not have the "makeup" of a child pedo, not at all. I'm sure many young guys would try out what he did, given the opportunity of being with . Like they say "one bad apple". I don't use the word hate towards people. Hate is viscous. I can honestly say I hate Jodi. She deserves death. Whether she gets DP. or LWOP she will die. Someone will kill her. I hope they do a good job like they did with Dahmer. At least he was sorry for what he did. He had no control over it. Not standing up for him, she shows nothing but venom....Die *itch Die..IMO.

 

[Foghorn]

Worth repeating.

How convenient that Micheal Keifer has not reported this, his breaking news is lightning fast when he thinks it will help the convicted murderer--crickets when the facts are checked and proven to be untrue. :notgood:

 

[Frigga]

Somewhat OT, but related...
I am sure most everyone here that has a PC also uses a good Anti-virus software utility that is on your PC.

If you want to scare yourself, open up your main Antivirus Application Menu., and there is usually a place you can see "Reports" or "History" of any activity that the utility has removed or deleted for you.

Its usually in the Firewall OR Internet Security areas.

When finding these reports and/or activity, you will usually be amazed at how often your PC was "attacked" by malicious files, tracking cookies, etc.

My Norton gives a monthly report of such activity and I find stuff it catches at least once a month. Its very scary stuff and which is why it is so important to have a good trustworthy antivirus software running all the time and be updated.
The "signature files" are lists of known malware that are updated regularly by the antivirus software companies because they keep track of all the known attacks and add them to the signature files. The software uses these files to recognize known bad files and bad website links to prevent your PC or device from going there or downloading it to your PC.

Hatfield, I am really naive when it comes to software, in general. What is the purpose of malware and why do people create it and send it out? Just for kicks? Do they gain something from the persons computer that they have corrupted?

I guess I really don't understand the purpose. TIA to anyone who can answer.

 

[Hope4More]

Thank you! I love that one! JACK!!!1

It sure beats having to type her name, which I refuse to do.

Ps- my IT friend says its a longish answer ...I'll have to wait tio he's free today.

(Asked him where would files go if auto deleted by antivirus program, could it look like someone deleted them on purpose, how "hidden" would they be, would there be a log kept by ptogram if threats removed, how easy would it be for an average user to deliberately send malware....)

 

[SweetT]

I honestly believe it was a trojan virus, but I also dont care if he looked at honestly...I'd be more surprised if a 20 something yr old single man did not look at and this will work against Jodi as the jury probably has some men on there who look at . Does that make them deserving of being murdered?

sorry forgot to ask...was this child or regular supposedly?

 

[Amster]

Sooooo.....now there will be an evidentiary (sp) hearing?? How long do those take?? So maddening!!!

KN and his sidekick Keifer can print and say whatever they want to the public. JM and Det. Flores can't say anything. Evidently, when <modsnip> and her puppet, Nurmi don't like someone.....they want that person destroyed! One way or the other.

 

[Miss Judy]

My husband works on other people's PCs all of the time from home or work (he's a VDI Engineer for Capital One). It's not just PC Anywhere anymore; he says that some of the programs are even internet based. And yes, it was also easy to do 6 years ago. Arias didn't have to be anywhere near AZ to do something to Travis' computer. Just sayin'.

 

[leighmarker]

Dying to know who the IT people are who found....deleted . If they are coming from the same pool of experts such as Alyce the dr......who will believe them?

 

[Hope4More]

Just occurred to me what she might have done on his computer the day she killed him.....erased the email she sent him that contained the malware. Since she also destroyed her HD, how could it be proven she sent him a virus?

 

[MeeBee]

So my husband is a software engineer and is pretty brilliant with computers. I won't even begin to try to understand or write what he's telling me lol. But what he's saying is, based purely on what I'm telling him, he suspects somebody might have messed up or it was accidental. Possibly they were doing some "forensic services" and the over writes, or whatever this is, happened. He doesn't suspect it was on purpose for a couple reasons, but mainly because LE would have no reason to do that.

And my brain forgot a lot of what he told me. But I asked a lot about viruses and such. He says either Travis went on a binge or this was a virus. She could absolutely have sent it to him remotely. We also know she had access or his email.

He says to find over written files someone would need to perform in depth FBI type forensics. I suspect Jodi had this done because she knows he had a virus either because she sent it or he told her and was sure they'd find it if they looked a little harder.

 

[Hope4More]

Whatever happened to Nurmi's whine to the AC? News of it buried beneath this latest pile of dung?

Is this dung what Nurmi hoped to spring on JM and TA 's family, in the silenced courtroom , with no uninvolved witnesses?

 

[leighmarker]

So my husband is a software engineer and is pretty brilliant with computers. I won't even begin to try to understand or write what he's telling me lol. But what he's saying is, based purely on what I'm telling him, he suspects somebody might have messed up or it was accidental. Possibly they were doing something forensic and the over writes or whatever this is happened. He doesn't suspect it was on purpose for a couple reasons, but mainly because LE would have no reason to so that.

That sounds logical, thank you. I would like to point out that I am pretty sure when the cops have evidence like the computer, they take an exact copy of the hard drive. This is done before anything else to preserve the original, so if the virus or malware is on TA's Hd and it was there prior to the police having it....shouldn't be too hard to prove. Does this make sense?

 

[MeeBee]

He said one possibility for overwritten files would be a scheduled Windows defrag, which occurred when it was turned on. But this is just one possibility.