Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 11/3/14 Hearing - Part 2

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Agree! I looked up Nurmi's credentials and he's quite educated and has a masters in criminal justice. The man knows exactly what he's doing.

Totes my opinion, his formal education has little to do with the base and crass tack he's using to smear Travis. This comes from something ugly within himself. And yes, he knows exactly what he's doing.

I gotta wonder if lil Nurmi was picked on because of his large size, and hates good looking popular charismatic men. Maybe he never turned a young woman's eye, and he's latently covetous of those that did. TMHO
 
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It just occurred to me:

If Travis was a pedophile, ALL the sites would have been child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 sites, not just two that maybe might have been, but not sure, we're looking into it. A pedophile would not waste his time with 🤬🤬🤬🤬 that did not meet their desires. It defies all logic. Why would a true pedophile be looking at regular old adult 🤬🤬🤬🤬?

So far the only 🤬🤬🤬🤬 found was on Jodi damaged hard drive. It would be interesting if it would also be found on Travis's? But that wouldn't fit the pedophile profile of little boys.
 
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My son's friend severely infected son's computer when they were in their mid teens. I had to uninstall and reinstall Windows. This was not the first such experience with said friend, who was no longer able to use the computer while at our house. I had a long talk with his mother, but to no avail.

Yep, been there, done that!
 
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I posted this on the 6th ... And I still in my gut believe Jodi was up to NOTHING good those days/weeks she had pro se status ....
I've had a theory about why Jodi wanted to represent herself. I don't think she ever intended on following through with her pro se status. She only wanted it temporarily to get the privileges that come with it ... Like visits that aren't monitored and phone calls that aren't monitored. Jodi is a very sneaky woman. Her magazine stunt with the coded messages and her sneaking out artwork to sell proves she knows how to beat the system. I think she had a very sinister motive for the pro se status. I just can't prove it and I don't have any specific reason it's just a gut feeling. If I had to guess it was to drudge up the pedo claims regarding Travis.
 
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The timing makes it so freakin obvious that Flores had ZERO motive to tamper with evidence. They had her camera with pictures of the murder, with HER IN IT. And they had her caught in obvious lies and her alibis were worthless. Slam dunk case.

And at the time, Flores had not even heard her BS about child 🤬🤬🤬🤬. So why would he even know to clean up the computer?

This is BULL. :furious:
 
  • #1,266
Because the Attorneys have carte blanche to malign them - no slander/ libel laws apply to them.... no consequences.

I'm gonna rant a bit. I know this is how it works, but how bass awkwards is that? The living, who are present and accounted for, can sue, but the dead, who cannot defend themselves, have no recourse. That's wrong in so many levels imo.
 
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That was the day after the Arias family panhandling video made its debut on YouTube. :facepalm:

The begamerical was made in September. Jodi was causing all kinds of mischief around that time. Acting pro se, again, screwing up and handing it back to Nurmi. Not sure of the reasoning of releasing it now. It just helps Jodi shoot her defense attorneys in the foot again,
 
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Both Melendez and Dworkin used EnCase. IIRC, they both said that the first thing that software does is to create a write-blocked forensic copy for investigators to study. The next thing it does is compare the copy to the original, bit for bit, to be sure the copy is exact.

Lonnie Dworkin, defense expert, went into mind-numbing detail on the process on day 12
[video=youtube;5R6OTb6vT04]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R6OTb6vT04[/video]

I will never believe anyone, especially Det. Flores, had anything to do with hiding, erasing, fabricating evidence to incriminate this murderer! This monster incriminated herself!
 
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I posted this on the 6th ... And I still in my gut believe Jodi was up to NOTHING good those days/weeks she had pro se status ....

Because legally her attorneys could not do what she wanted done. Is that where you're coming from ?

ETA: I agree
 
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Just to be clear (since this is the 2nd post someone mentioned Nurmi in response). Are y'all not clear I was talking about JUAN when I said:

"I kinda think he is enjoying being the stud that he is for the time being. I do believe he wants to win. I am a JM fangirl myself."
(previous post)

NOT NERMI. I don't even know how y'all would interpret hat that way...lmao. I am still on some good prescription drugs though...sooooo......:gaah:


Ewwwwwwww, KN will never be a stud, ICH!!!!!!! Jmho
 
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Is this person an actual professional journalist? I really don't know who's who in Arizona journalism, but if he is a professional, he is sure behaving childishly.

He sure wouldn't be working for me!
 
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Ok, I'll play.

Is it ethical to report the identity of the jury foreperson in a high profile case before it is disclosed nor have they returned their verdict and been dismissed? Yes or No.

If yes, then why do you suppose he redacted that portion of his online article within about an hour of publishing it. After people (ahem, me) started asking questions around the hallway about how he would know, much less publish, such delicate information.

In the same article, he reported that it was known the jury was hung. A day before they actually did hang. Is this his use of sources? Reporting a jury verdict before it's been decided much less delivered? Also redacted. Yes or No

Finally, is it within your ethical boundaries for a journalist to be sitting in a courtroom calling the victim in a murder case a "🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬" or a "douchebag", blaming the surviving family members for the actual existence of a trial and/or this comment "when that Murder 2 conviction comes in, I'm gonna walk up to Juan Martinez and tell him to shove it up his A$$". Are these behaviors of an ethical journalist? While on the job and inside the courtroom? Yes or No

Because, whether you choose to believe me or not, I first hand witnessed every one of those things. And I have documentation from Michael Kiefer on far worse comments said about the victim in this case and the family (and the prosecutor).

I'm interested in your remarks about the ethics involved here. Is this just a journalist doing his job? Reporting in an unbiased fashion?

I can go on and on as you'd imagine but I'll leave it at that for now.

These aren't tomatoes by the way, I'm not victimizing you in any way. But I know how to handle the Truth.

PS. In case you or anyone might be concerned about my own personal ethics, these kinds of caustic comments about the victim, the victims families and the prosecutor were spewed by Michael Kiefer for months to anyone would listen in that courtroom. Out loud. While he was on duty being paid to be a reporter of facts by the AZ Republic. How do I know this? Several other journalists, who I know personally, were complaining about him. Ok truth be told, laughing at him behind his back for the caricature of a journalist he'd become. At least two were trading seats so they didn't have to sit next to him to be subjected to this constant barrage. Is this ethical journalistic behavior for a BEAT COURT REPORTER?

Plus I'm not on the job, owe nothing to anyone and let me be clear on this: I will ALWAYS land on the side of victims and when I say victims I mean the person who was murdered or otherwise abused/assaulted/wronged and their family members. ALWAYS. Kiefer jumped the shark on our friendship after I subjected myself to months of his victim bashing BS out of a history with him. He turned a corner when he turned that venom directly on to me, to my face. Boom, done, poof. Then he blocked me on twitter.

WooHoo, you go KCLGirl!!!!!
 
  • #1,273
Juan Martinez should be fired for wasting huge tax dollars. Life without parole on a 23hr a day lockdown would have been better. Don't Arizona have other murderers who still need to be prosecuted. Fire Juan now. Or take the cost out of his check first.
 
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Jodi is a manipulator, she wants to be in control. At this point I don't even think she cares about the outcome. CMJA only cares about dragging Travis through the mud, she is so intent on this final act of revenge. Why any man would find this cold blooded killer attractive in any way is beyond my comprehension! Unfortunately Travis wanted to see only the good in people, at some point it became clear to him that Jodi had NO good, NO redeeming qualities, NO compassion. CMJA only saw any benefit to herself, Travis was her meal ticket, her route to respectability, with all of her self help books etc she just didn't want to actually have to do any actual kind of work herself. CMJA is a narcissist, sociopathic and so obsessed with vengeance that she will do just about anything! The defense team has lowered themselves to grasping at straws to appease a killer.
 
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Juan Martinez should be fired for wasting huge tax dollars. Life without parole on a 23hr a day lockdown would have been better. Don't Arizona have other murderers who still need to be prosecuted. Fire Juan now. Or take the cost out of his check first.
You must be new. Exactly how is Juan wasting tax dollars by doing his job...but the defense are the ones coming up with delay after delay after delay? How is this Juan's fault? Really confused here. Perhaps you meant Nurmi, since Nurmi and company are the ones doing a great job of dragging this out.
 
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Just to be clear (since this is the 2nd post someone mentioned Nurmi in response). Are y'all not clear I was talking about JUAN when I said:

"I kinda think he is enjoying being the stud that he is for the time being. I do believe he wants to win. I am a JM fangirl myself."
(previous post)

NOT NERMI. I don't even know how y'all would interpret hat that way...lmao. I am still on some good prescription drugs though...sooooo......:gaah:

Lol, sorry but I did think you meant Kirkie!
 
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You must be new. Exactly how is Juan wasting tax dollars by doing his job...but the defense are the ones coming up with delay after delay after delay? How is this Juan's fault? Really confused here. Perhaps you meant Nurmi, since Nurmi and company are the ones doing a great job of dragging this out.
Juan and the state could have took dp off the table a while ago. But they didn't because they are enjoying this circus. Jodi defence is paid by the state which still wouldn't be happening if Juan had took the dp off the table. So Juan and his bosses are responsible. If he had to directly pay for her defense out of his pocket; He would have dropped the dp long ago. Trust me.
 
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Juan Martinez should be fired for wasting huge tax dollars. Life without parole on a 23hr a day lockdown would have been better. Don't Arizona have other murderers who still need to be prosecuted. Fire Juan now. Or take the cost out of his check first.
Please explain your point a bit better. So CMJA would gladly accept LWOP? IIRC the only plea CMJA was willing to make was for second degree murder. So please explain your statement, would be much appreciated.
 
  • #1,280
Because it could be argued that it supports her claims of sexual abuse and the incident where he "broke her finger" because she walked in on him viewing kiddie 🤬🤬🤬🤬 and thus by extension her self defense claim.

ETA it's not a super strong argument but it could still be made.
Her finger got that way from stabbing him and slashing his throat, She damaged it herself- but Travis "made her do it".
 
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