Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 12/19-1/5 Break

[geevee]

Nurmi's request to com pel is going in my com post pile.

Has the text of the motion been released yet? I'm still trying to catch up as well.

 

[Frigga]

Happy New Year everyone!

It was a very good time with my family between Christmas and New Years Day!

We saw the King Tut exhibit at the Natural History Museum in San Diego (Balboa Park and the Prado... absolutely gorgeous). It is glorious and if it comes to your city or town, you won't be disappointed to see it.

We had an incredible snow fall in the mountains so my husband ran out and bought sleds and we headed up to Laguna Mountain (just outside of a little town called Julian) for some crazy sledding and snowball fights with my sister, nephew (34) and niece (18) who also happens to have Down syndrome (like my son)! We had so much fun! We told stories during the car ride and shared our resolutions for the year!

When we finally got down from the mountain (the traffic was insane) we had dinner and Pezuki's (sp?)at BJ's in Escondido and went back to my sisters in San Marcos where we spent an hour in the hot tub and took turns jumping in the freezing pool for good luck- watched the Tony Bennet/ Lady Gaga special, played Texas hold 'em with gummy bears as our "chips"- ate fantastic snacks like Almond Rocca, homemade sugar cookies with homemade frosting, potato chips with sour cream and onion dip and drank champagne and OJ while the kids drank sparkling apple cider! We had a blast... hugged and kissed as we watched the ball drop. There was so much love, joy and happiness thinking about the next adventures in the coming New Year!

We slept in and when we got up the sun was shining and it was a beautiful day.

We made breakfast of apple smoked bacon, turkey sausage, breakfast potatoes, eggs with green chili, cheddar cheese and fresh salsa, along with sourdough toast and tangerine juice.

Soon after we headed out to play frisbee golf at Cal State San Marcos and met more cousins and family at the Theatre to see Into The Woods.We went back to my sisters, ate mexican food at a little taco joint next door, dropped she and her family off at her house and drove back to Long Beach.

Jodi Ann Arias will never experience anything like this ever again... but neither will Travis and that makes me mad as a hornet.

I want this show to get back on the road- the road to justice for Travis and his loved ones.

I hope I never have to see Willmott or Nurmi's face- ever again- after this is over.

Jodi is done... toast!

The only question now- Life or Death... I do not care- either way.

I hope her family comes out of their delusion and moves on. I hope the Daryl's and the Matt's come to see things more clearly and move on, as well. I hope someday one of them comes forward in an interview to finally tell the truth of whatever it is they knew... however, I'm not holding my breath.

I hope Jodi's webmaster and fan club move on to the next big story and psychopath.

Jodi Arias is a nobody... I do understand what Madeleine is trying to say. She is a cautionary tale for mental health intervention for the disordered and better decision making skills for the poor saps that will no doubt cross paths with said disordered people. May 2015 soon give way to the Perryville gates being swung open for the arrival of just another convicted murderer and may she soon after be FORGOTTEN!

Justice for Travis.

 

[daisydomino]

Has the text of the motion been released yet? I'm still trying to catch up as well.

Yes, Courtchatter.com has posted it here:
https://drive.google.com/viewerng/v...ents/arias/ariasdefmotiontocompel123114a5.pdf

 

[Madeleine74]

There was between the TA murder and her arrest. She had weapons.....

Ok, so who did she murder after Travis and before she was picked up by police. BTW, she was being surveilled for a period of time before her arrest. (She didn't murder anyone else.)

 

[Tiger09]

Nurmi wants to compel? So he's a vampire now? This should make the rest of the trial interesting.

 

[Love Never Fails]

We don't know Travis, we know about Travis because of the coverage of his murder in the media. TV and the Internet gives people the feeling like they are right there in the courtroom or in the house of the victim, but that's a false sense of intimacy. Regardless of her motive or anyone's motive, she killed him, she didn't perpetrate this murder against people of the Interwebs, even though some feel that way. That's why I appreciated seeing that documentary about the Inquisition, which put this case right into perspective. Arias is only as important as spectators who make her important.

BTW I actually do (or did when they were still alive) know people who escaped Germany in the 1940's and a couple people whose families were wiped out when the Nazi's sent their parents, aunts, uncles to concentration camps. I remember seeing the tattoo'd number on one person's arm. It was faded but it was still there. Compared to a case of 1 jealous rejected female who killed the guy who rejected her, Arias who?

The question is not Arias who? The question is Travis who? This is about Travis. And Jodi would have fit right in with Hitler's list of hit men. So in that vein she is not important but infamous, like Hitler. Hitler told others to kill. She killed Travis all by herself. Yes she is bad and has the same cold blooded killer nature as Hitler. She just hadn't yet killed her other victims on her list. For ONE human being to stab someone 29 times, shoot them and slit their throat, I would say she is a serial killer. There was more than one killing. She has it in her. Don't be fooled. Unimportant to you maybe, but extremely deadly.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Ok, so who did she murder after Travis and before she was picked up by police. BTW, she was being surveilled for a period of time before her arrest. (She didn't murder anyone else.)

You don't KNOW that. Neither do the police.

 

[Madeleine74]

Not to mention how she continues to impugn his character and kill his memory over and over and over in court. ALL with 100% baseless lies. Nothing but her lying lips moving made is so for at least one juror during the first lap. Can't blame Jodi for his stupidity, but I can sure blame her for lying.

Impugning a victim's character is very par for the course in an adversarial court system, as it's done all the time. Arias didn't invent the technique and neither did her attorneys. They basically tell the same 3 lies, but no one believes them. It certainly didn't work in the trial phase that was the most important one: the guilt phase. She'll always be a convicted first degree murderer. Whatever else goes down in this phase, she'll still be spending the rest of her life in Perryville prison. I think that very important fact tends to be forgotten in the swirling drama and 'oh scary monster' meme.

 

[Madeleine74]

You don't KNOW that. Neither do the police.

Ok, so who was murdered in that time that was in her path? It's kind of hard to hide a body. She wasn't able to keep evidence from implicating her in TA's murder. So who was it? What evidence exists that she murdered any other human before TA or after TA?

 

[Love Never Fails]

Impugning a victim's character is very par for the course in an adversarial court system, as it's done all the time. Arias didn't invent the technique and neither did her attorneys. They basically tell the same 3 lies, but no one believes them. It certainly didn't work in the trial phase that was the most important one: the guilt phase. She'll always be a convicted first degree murderer. Whatever else goes down in this phase, she'll still be spending the rest of her life in Perryville prison. I think that very important fact tends to be forgotten in the swirling drama and 'oh scary monster' meme.

Debating about Arias gets us nowhere. She is scary. Deadly so. How do you KNOW she will be in prison for life? Suppose the judge gives her 25 to life and some parole board falls for her nonsense and let's her go free. Suppose she gets the DP and a governor decides to overturn the decisions of jurors of all those on death row, as the governor in Maryland is doing? Seems some judges are about as insane as the defense attorneys. You want to debate about honest people doing the right thing. Truth is, this world gets scarier by the day and honesty is becoming a rare quality, as are judges who can sanely decide a case. So don't ever think anything is certain. We hope for certainty but that's all we can do.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Ok, so who was murdered in that time that was in her path? It's kind of hard to hide a body. She wasn't able to keep evidence from implicating her in TA's murder. So who was it? What evidence exists that she murdered any other human before TA or after TA?

You aren't serious right? Bodies are hidden every day. People come up missing all the time and bodies are found years later. What is proven is that she has the killer inside her. Prove to us that she didn't kill anyone else. Anything you argue is supposition.

 

[Val1]

BBM. Oh, I'm not at all saying it was. It just goes to show the extent of her evilness, which is why people think she qualifies as the worst of the worst- even if she only had one victim. But she isn't done killing her victim, only now she's doing it through character assassination. And had she not been caught when she had, she probably would have killed others (?Mimi, the Hughes's). She had a gun and knives on her.

More likely she was going hunting for the new prospect... named on the last page of TA's journal.

 

[Madeleine74]

Debating about Arias gets us nowhere. She is scary. Deadly so. How do you KNOW she will be in prison for life? Suppose the judge gives her 25 to life and some parole board falls for her nonsense and let's her go free. Suppose she gets the DP and a governor decides to overturn the decisions of jurors of all those on death row, as the governor in Maryland is doing? Seems some judges are about as insane as the defense attorneys. You want to debate about honest people doing the right thing. Truth is, this world gets scarier by the day and honesty is becoming a rare quality, as are judges who can sanely decide a case. So don't ever think anything is certain. We hope for certainty but that's all we can do.

As has been explained multiple times by AZL and others, though apparently not believed, even *IF* Arias is given LWPP, AZ still has no provision in place to automatically grant parole so even if such a thing were theoretically possible; there is no guarantee Arias would ever be released or seriously considered for release. And that's *IF* the judge gives her that sentence if the jury deadlocks, which IMO she will not. I'd say the odds of Arias ever seeing the outside of a prison are less than one's chances at winning the lottery. Where will you be in 25 years? I know where Arias will be: in prison or dead.

 

[RickshawFan]

Ok, so who was murdered in that time that was in her path? It's kind of hard to hide a body. She wasn't able to keep evidence from implicating her in TA's murder. So who was it? What evidence exists that she murdered any other human before TA or after TA?

She managed to hide the stuff she used to kill Travis apparently forever. If she could do that, she could hide a body.

 

[Madeleine74]

Arias the monster is a fictional creature created from hysteria and drama. She's no more evil than Melanie McGuire, Susan Wright, Jessica Riggins, Pamela Smith, or any other female who has brutally killed an intimate partner. I'd say the people who purposely kill children are much worse. Diane Downs, Susan Smith, the Petit family murderers, just to name a few, but there are so many more.

What Arias did is evil and horrible but unfortunately not that uncommon (killing an intimate partner). I feel bad for those who have convinced themselves their lives are in danger from the boogieman...errr...Arias, and are walking around askeered. That's some incredible imagination.

 

[RickshawFan]

As has been explained multiple times by AZL and others, though apparently not believed, even *IF* Arias is given LWPP, AZ still has no provision in place to automatically grant parole so even if such a thing were theoretically possible; there is no guarantee Arias would ever be released or seriously considered for release. And that's *IF* the judge gives her that sentence if the jury deadlocks, which IMO she will not. I'd say the odds of Arias ever seeing the outside of a prison are less than one's chances at winning the lottery. Where will you be in 25 years? I know where Arias will be: in prison or dead.

Nurmi is showcasing JA's most relentless and vicious attributes. He might as well be setting her up to not get LWP if the judge has to make a decision about penalty.

 

[Love Never Fails]

As has been explained multiple times by AZL and others, though apparently not believed, even *IF* Arias is given LWPP, AZ still has no provision in place to automatically grant parole so even if such a thing were theoretically possible; there is no guarantee Arias would ever be released or seriously considered for release. And that's *IF* the judge gives her that sentence if the jury deadlocks, which IMO she will not. I'd say the odds of Arias ever seeing the outside of a prison are less than one's chances at winning the lottery. Where will you be in 25 years? I know where Arias will be: in prison or dead.

You continue to say you KNOW certain things. You do NOT. AZL also said the politicians in Arizona could change things. Heck, it could be changed next year, you don't know. Nor can you be certain JSS would give her LWOP. And yes a parole board could seriously consider her for release because they release convicted murderers all the time across our nation and the killers kill again. You do NOT know where she will bein 25 years. I can debate with you forever, but why would I want to continue this with you? This is insane. No thanks.

 

[geevee]

Yes, Courtchatter.com has posted it here:
https://drive.google.com/viewerng/v...ents/arias/ariasdefmotiontocompel123114a5.pdf

Thanks so much DD, I'm glad to see that someone is asking for Melendez' report, even if it's only the portion pertaining to T's hard drive. I'd dearly love to read the entire thing. Nurmi really needs to lay off the 'let's call the whole thing off' line of thinking, but I blame JSS for not putting her foot down about his endless motions casting blame to the prosecution about *everything*, she gave him an inch and he plans to take the whole of Earth.

 

[LambChop]

Okay folks, let's stop the back and forth. Posters are speculating here and entitled to their opinions. No need to attack another poster and ask for proof when someone posts a belief that they may have. Move on and remember this is the Retrial thread and discussions about the retrial.


Thanks, Lambchop

 

[LinasK]

More likely she was going hunting for the new prospect... named on the last page of TA's journal.

Ryan Burns?