Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 12/19-1/5 Break

[ElleElle]

Yes that's the check. She claimed it was a loan to Travis, but I call BS. First off , she owed him money for screwing up the BMW, and second she was a mediocre waitress, at best, who could hardly hold down a job. It's not as if she had $700 just to throw around. Hell, I'm not even sure how she ever had as much money as she did.

She hadn't broke the BMW when this check was written.

To me, it's her paying him back for the "1000 places to see".

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Sorry, I don't know how to bring over posts from another thread with my phone, but tcrockett posted this link in the diary thread (http://jodiariastrialtruth.blogspot.com/). I didn't want to go off topic over there, so hopefully my question is appropriate for this thread.

Does anyone know what is written in the memo section for the check Jodi wrote Travis for $699 on 1-15-08? She claims it was a loan but I highly doubt that.

I can't read it, but my guess is for the tires she slashed, but even that doesn't make sense because she never admitted she did it.

 

[Deleted member 122533]

Yeah. I think she was going to make a run for it. She was scared and feeling the investigation closing in. I think she could have tried crossing a border. I don't see any other reason for taping the gun inside the engine. If the gun was to kill someone else she could just keep it in the car. If it were to kill herself if cornered by LE it would be beside her on the seat.

I'd never really considered her making a run for it in much detail. It's a perfectly good theory. Perhaps I'm more convinced by the possibility that she was on her way to kill again. She hid the gun because she didn't want to be caught with a gun. She also hid two knives. Heading for the Mexican border, a woman afraid - would the gun not be of more use right next to her? It was bought legally. Concealing it makes little sense. Avoiding being caught with potential murder weapons - after Travis was slaughtered with a gun and a knife sounds very like CMJA. Getting caught after committing new crimes probably wouldn't much matter to her. Being halted before further revenge attacks would. I guess we'll never know!

Does anyone know how the gun got there? If it was hidden in the new rental car and the vehicle was under surveillance, who put it there? Does anyone think her parents reported the car rental to the police? Is that what the betrayal comment was all about in her journals? Did she add that to the year before knowing her parents would be hurt by it?

 

[ElleElle]

The first three letters are definitely Air. Just check her writing above on the check. jmo

It's AIRFARE !!!

 

[Katharine]

I can't read it, but my guess is for the tires she slashed, but even that doesn't make sense because she never admitted she did it.

Someone has said it says Air travel when it was enhanced. I read this in the comment section of a blog. I have no idea, just tossing that out there. She would owe him money for vacations they took together. (IMO). Edited to add: (oops after reading a post, yes, I think he said Air fare, thank you).

Edited again to add: I highly recommend reading this blog (a thank you shout out to whomever provided this link) as the author provides outlined evidence to debunk the abuse and pedophile lies JA told.

http://jodiariastrialtruth.blogspot...g-ariass-claims-of-physical.html#comment-form

 

[Caylee Advocate]

This is off topic (and related to an earlier part of the thread that may no longer be of interest), but the TV series "Most Evil" is an interesting watch, with Michael Stone rating various kinds of killers on his "scale" of evil. There's also a book called "The Murder Room" (excellent true crime story) where one of the individuals featured in the book, forensic profiler Richard Walters, discusses a matrix or scale that he uses to assess an individual's propensity for violent crime. Both book and show were very useful as far as providing a blueprint for understanding the complex human nature of "evil".

With that said, I am fascinated with the Jodi Arias case and I could not fully explain why. Though it is not the defendant's evilness alone. I do think beauty and youth play a role in the interest that I have, combined with a stranger-than-fiction story and unfolding courtroom drama that is riveting and at times infuriating, or supremely gratifying once the prosecutor takes the stage. In my case, the interest may also come from being close in age with the defendant and victim.

This entire trial, with its villains, heroes (and jesters), and memorable moments: actions and statements often laced with varying degrees of stupidity, cleverness, arrogance, righteousness, and some awful playacting. I've attempted watching other trials, but they failed to hold my interest, (such as the Casey Anthony trial, beginning with prosecution's opening statement). I think the prosecutor's style in the Arias trial has really drawn me in.

Additionally, with the Arias case there are some broader themes that come into play: with the American justice system, rights of public, defendant, and victim, "trial-by-media" - to name a few. All these different things coming together can be what sets this case apart for many of us.

Welcome to the forum, with what you have posted I agree. With that being said, do you have an opinion as to what her sentence should be?

 

[khaki]

The first three letters are definitely Air. Just check her writing above on the check. jmo

I have a vague memory that someone here once said they thought it said Airfare on that check. Wonder if that jives with a recent trip that TA paid for?


Edit: lol, my bad, I see Katharine, and others, already posted this :smile:

 

[daisydomino]

It's AIRFARE !!!

That's the most logical guess I've seen yet. I really cannot read it. I can't even read the type that I already know says "MEMO" or the bank address that is typeset.

Actual screen cap:

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[Deleted member 122533]

Jodi's mother strikes me as someone who has shifting loyalties, one minute she is supporting Jodi to the level of enabling her, next she is happily throwing her completely under the bus.

Part of me feels sorry for her family. Their daughter slaughtering a man must have incredibly stressful for them to discover and not something to be blamed on them in any way. Your point on enabling is particularly noticeable in the journals. They couldn't handle Arias. Her immature behaviour (e.g. Law Of Attraction nonsense from an early age) was enabled by them. Unfortunately, after she was arrested, they enabled her further. Undoubtedly, this is why so many people feel contempt for them now. Instead of helping Arias deal with reality, they have aided her in continuing the prolonged torture of the family and friends of Travis Alexander. They have be come part of the game. None of it has has helped their daughter. The truth would have served them all better. In contrast, Travis' family have behaved with incredible grace and dignity.

 

[Katharine]

I'd never really considered her making a run for it in much detail. It's a perfectly good theory. Perhaps I'm more convinced by the possibility that she was on her way to kill again. She hid the gun because she didn't want to be caught with a gun. She also hid two knives. Heading for the Mexican border, a woman afraid - would the gun not be of more use right next to her? It was bought legally. Concealing it makes little sense. Avoiding being caught with potential murder weapons - after Travis was slaughtered with a gun and a knife sounds very like CMJA. Getting caught after committing new crimes probably wouldn't much matter to her. Being halted before further revenge attacks would. I guess we'll never know!

Does anyone know how the gun got there? If it was hidden in the new rental car and the vehicle was under surveillance, who put it there? Does anyone think her parents reported the car rental to the police? Is that what the betrayal comment was all about in her journals? Did she add that to the year before knowing her parents would be hurt by it?

Pure speculation on where she was going with weapons. It is scary.

I wondered too how the gun got put there. I had a response by Val1 at 3:22 a.m. today (I use 200 posts to read, so post# is 1010). No her parents were involved in her getting the rental. Seems odd that she would write that in her journal for Dec 2007 as an add on but who knows?

 

[Ricki]

http://www.examiner.com/article/jod...otion-nobody-gasps-did-jodi-implicate-herself

 

[Deleted member 122533]

Thanks, Katharine. I was speculating, regarding the betrayal comment bring added later. It seemed so out of context. It may have been written on the originally indicated date. There seems so much rage behind it.

 

[Deleted member 122533]

A big welcome from me - another relative newbie, GrouchyGator.

 

[grouchygator]

Welcome to the forum, with what you have posted I agree. With that being said, do you have an opinion as to what her sentence should be?

In theory, life without parole. I'm not an advocate for the death penalty, but I do find myself rooting for that sentence since it's the very thing this retrial is fighting for (in the face of what seems to be a carnival and classless defense).

I truly don't know how I would vote on the defendant's sentence, though. Unless I was on the jury with all the rules, facts and mitigating factors presented to me in the context of criminal court. I might surprise myself with a different decision . . .

 

[Katharine]

Part of me feels sorry for her family. Their daughter slaughtering a man must have incredibly stressful for them to discover and not something to be blamed on them in any way. Your point on enabling is particularly noticeable in the journals. They couldn't handle Arias. Her immature behaviour (e.g. Law Of Attraction nonsense from an early age) was enabled by them. Unfortunately, after she was arrested, they enabled her further. Undoubtedly, this is why so many people feel contempt for them now. Instead of helping Arias deal with reality, they have aided her in continuing the prolonged torture of the family and friends of Travis Alexander. They have be come part of the game. None of it has has helped their daughter. The truth would have served them all better. In contrast, Travis' family have behaved with incredible grace and dignity.

Yes, I, too have felt sorry for her family especially when I watched Det Flores interview Sandy and Bill. And you said it, they could not handle Jodi from early childhood and on. They already knew prior to the interview that something was "off" with her with the calls from people, the highs and lows, the anger, the crying, the privacy issues... The court antics did not favor Sandy or her sister in any good light. The other family members who attended appeared to show respect in the courtroom.

Is it because of Jodi's diagnosis that can manipulate people to that extent. I know that her Mother, Aunt, and Sister have totally bought into the abuse (both physical and emotional), pedophile, and claims. I cannot say about her brothers with any certainty. Her Father remains an enigma but I feel that deep down he knows the real truth about his daughter, Jodi. He just cannot say anything out loud to his wife (if that makes any sense). I got so much more of a sense about him from the interviews, he was more forth coming than his wife. Thank you for your very well put opinions. (IMO)

 

[Deleted member 122533]

Much appreciated. Great points, Katharine... thank you for your views. Yes, the interviews with her parents were sad. Her mother seemed genuine and distraught. Her father, harder to read. She has manipulated them too, absolutely.

 

[Steely Dan]

What was CMJA doing 1-15-08 what do her journals say?

She was AcFartoing.

The first three letters are definitely Air. Just check her writing above on the check. jmo

OOPS! I mean she was AirFartoing.

It's AIRFARE !!!

:facepalm:

That's the most logical guess I've seen yet. I really cannot read it. I can't even read the type that I already know says "MEMO" or the bank address that is typeset.

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No, that says AcFarto. I'd be all of LambChop's money on it. :thumb:

 

[TexMex]

I'd never really considered her making a run for it in much detail. It's a perfectly good theory. Perhaps I'm more convinced by the possibility that she was on her way to kill again. She hid the gun because she didn't want to be caught with a gun. She also hid two knives. Heading for the Mexican border, a woman afraid - would the gun not be of more use right next to her? It was bought legally. Concealing it makes little sense. Avoiding being caught with potential murder weapons - after Travis was slaughtered with a gun and a knife sounds very like CMJA. Getting caught after committing new crimes probably wouldn't much matter to her. Being halted before further revenge attacks would. I guess we'll never know!

Does anyone know how the gun got there? If it was hidden in the new rental car and the vehicle was under surveillance, who put it there? Does anyone think her parents reported the car rental to the police? Is that what the betrayal comment was all about in her journals? Did she add that to the year before knowing her parents would be hurt by it?

It's very difficult to take guns into Mexico. We used to hunt there and you must check them in with the Mexican police and fill out tons of forms.

 

[TexMex]

It's AIRFARE !!!

IIRC it was paying Travis back for a trip

 

[Steely Dan]

In theory, life without parole. I'm not an advocate for the death penalty, but I do find myself rooting for that sentence since it's the very thing this retrial is fighting for (in the face of what seems to be a carnival and classless defense).

I truly don't know how I would vote on the defendant's sentence, though. Unless I was on the jury with all the rules, facts and mitigating factors presented to me in the context of criminal court. I might surprise myself with a different decision . . .

Hey grouchcygator. Welcome here. Lookout for Swampmama she and her husband will try and catch you.

I agree with your feelings on the death penalty. I'm against it due to how it's unfairly applied. That said, I feel if anybody deserves to be killed it's JA. She is just an amazingly sick minded individual. I believe that had she not been caught she would have gone on to kill a lot of Travis' friends. I think she was thisclose to leaving to do it before they arrested her.


JMO