Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 15

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  • #361
I find it weird how psychiatrists determine someone's personality based on the person's they're assessing own responses. People LIE. Wouldn't it be more accurate to interview those who knew them? Family, friends, etc?
 
  • #362
We do know that the killer was given anti-depressants & anxiety medication long before the suicide watch. She told Dr. Samuels that and he testified it was also written down in her medical record.
 
  • #363
I find it weird how psychiatrist determine someone's personality based on the person's they're assessing own responses. People LIE. Wouldn't it be more accurate to interview those who knew them? Family, friends, etc?

No worries- Juan and Dr Demarte will straighten all of this out for the jury. Arias had a lot of time to think up her NEW answers.
 
  • #364
No worries- Juan and Dr Demarte will straighten all of this out for the jury. Arias had a lot of time to think up her NEW answers.

Isn't the current witness analyzing the test she did with Dr. Demarte? I've been copying tweets but that remains unclear to me.
 
  • #365
Thanks button was not enough :)
 
  • #366
Isn't the current witness analyzing the test she did with Dr. Demarte? I've been copying tweets but that remains unclear to me.

Yes, I believe he is.
 
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  • #368
The one thing this court never wastes time with is breaking for lunch.


:seeya: And when it comes to quitting time ... always quit on time ... never ever overtime !
 
  • #369
So they screwed up their 2008 copy as well and want JM to provide them another one so they can copy it and return it to him? I don't think they've been able to provide one copy of either the 2008 or 2009 copies that has not been altered by them? Is that correct?

I assume the DT copy would have the date it was created on it as well.
 
  • #370
From what I have read the MMCI-2 has 567 true/false questions (have no idea on page count) and takes 30 to 90 minutes to complete.

http://psychcentral.com/lib/minnesota-multiphasic-personality-inventory-mmpi/0005959

How do the tests compensate for people that lie when answering the questions? She is a known liar, the test is given, but how do the graders or whatever they are called, take that into consideration....or they don't and just think she is telling the truth and give their report. The test would be invalid if she lied?! Please explain. Thanks in advance
 
  • #371
What will happen today? :thinking: With this trial, one never knows. I do hope JSS gets on the bench and tells the defense that their motion has been denied.

Will they try and call a witness today? If I were on the jury I'd find it mighty suspicious that the defense has only presented 2 witnesses, with one incomplete.

I see a nose....his profile?

Wow, that circle looks like it was done with an Etch-a-Sketch.
 
  • #372
How do the tests compensate for people that lie when answering the questions? She is a known liar, the test is given, but how do the graders or whatever they are called, take that into consideration....or they don't and just think she is telling the truth and give their report. The test would be invalid if she lied?! Please explain. Thanks in advance

If I remember, some questions are asked more than once but in different words. (But it doesn't take much intelligence to see that--most liars are cunning, after all.)
 
  • #373
Well, I think we've all learned something. "Jodi Arias was not an angry person, no more than average." I've got to rethink my whole life & I've only got a lunch hour to do it.
 
  • #374
Why does the testimony today ring so hollow?
 
  • #375
I find it weird how psychiatrists determine someone's personality based on the person's they're assessing own responses. People LIE. Wouldn't it be more accurate to interview those who knew them? Family, friends, etc?

Hi Nali. The MMPI--2 is a very, very reliable and valid instrument for measuring psychopathology and personality disorders, and it is as psychometrically sound as they come. It has internal constructs designed to "catch" exaggeration, over reporting and under-reporting--basically it is designed to identify those who lie on the test. And while there is no instrument out there that is perfect, this is the absolute best there is to offer when a clinician suspects psychopathology.

However, you are absolutely correct, any Clinician worth his or her salt (and by ethical standards) MUST take into account collateral reporting of family, friends, co-workers, etc..., in order to diagnose an individual appropriately.
 
  • #376
Well, I think we've all learned something. "Jodi Arias was not an angry person, no more than average." I've got to rethink my whole life & I've only got a lunch hour to do it.

You're good. We all are. The problem lies with the hired witness that sees only what he's paid to see. Anyone that knows about this case, and about JA's life, knows that she was (and still is) an angry person. Spend your hour doing something that you enjoy instead!

MOO
 
  • #377
The fact is, who cares what he did or did not say, and why in the heck is she so easily led to that goose chase rather than simply demanding now that it be turned over now.

Well, I know this is cockeyed optimism, but I'm hoping she's doing this to verify & then charge him with contempt. She did correct JW's attempt to explain away the reason he didn't turn it over, so that's a start? I was actually relieved to hear her come back at JW with that statement, b/c it tells me she does understand at least that much of the issue.
 
  • #378
The anxiety/stress one feels after murdering someone in cold-blood is a mitigating factor? :thinking:

Apparently. :scared:

ETA: I believe that's the definition of chutzpah.
 
  • #379
Hi Nali. The MMPI--2 is a very, very reliable and valid instrument for measuring psychopathy, and it is as psychometrically sound as they come. It has internal constructs designed to "catch" exaggeration, over reporting and under-reporting--basically it is designed to identify those who lie on the test. And while there is no instrument out there that is perfect, this is the absolute best their is to offer when a clinician suspects psychopathy.

However, you are absolutely correct, any Clinician worth his or her salt (and by ethical standards) MUST take into account collateral reporting of family, friends, co-workers, etc..., in order to diagnose an individual appropriately.

Thank you!
 
  • #380
Duh. That's because she had already slaughtered the person who made her angry.

I know this is a serious trial....BUT.................. LOL.:laughing:
 
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