Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 23

[geevee]

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts · 28s28 seconds ago
Waiting on Geffner...could be a play. #JodiArias

 

[elementary]

Don't get me wrong, Travis is the victim. I'm saying he behaved like any other man would have in his situation. That doesn't justify how his actions affected the women he dated. And While a normal person would see this as typical behavior someone crazy might view the same actions as very hurtful. Not saying any of that justifies the amount of crazy Jodi put him through either tho.

She's not crazy.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

From WAT:

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial · 50s 50 seconds ago


I am banking on the #JodiArias trial to never end.

I now view it as my career.


:hilarious: Yep !

 

[geevee]

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts · 28s28 seconds ago
jury's back. Geffner's back. Wilmott's back. #JodiArias

 

[notsomuch]

Then I'm pretty manipulative. My friends/family/etc have no clue about when, what kind or how often my husband and I have sex. They are not privy to our emails or text either. Never have been. We have pulled the wool over their eyes for 19 years.

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I would hope all those people wouldn't want to know the details of your sexual life. And again, he was Mormon. He would have lost a lot had people known. No one frowns upon married people getting on

 

[ZoeyW]

Everything about this case is a lot different than the way MK reports it.

Michael Kiefer does not report. He opines.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

From WAT:

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial · 15s 16 seconds ago


Geffner is seen running back into court and taking the standular region again.

Jury on the way innnnnn #JodiArias

 

[geevee]

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts · 10s10 seconds ago
Wilmmott got half a question in before she called a sidebar based on Martinez's objections. #JodiArias

 

[5bigfish5]

Yep. And Jodi Arias was the one who used sex (and religion--how shameful!) to manipulate and trap men. Not a righteous bone in her body.

Not to mention, even by her OWN account, they broke up and she moved to Mesa.

 

[geevee]

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer · 13s14 seconds ago
Stephens is going along. Sidebar.

 

[luvmygarden]

We only have JA's word for when they were "official" as my 14 yr old granddaughter might refer to it.

Yes I need proof TA was viewing the relationship as OFFICIAL
Doesnt make sense to me he would settle for a OFFICIAL relationship with someone so many miles away. It would be different if they had a relationship in the past and were seperated because of College or Military or job change. JA only moves to Mesa after the breakup.
I think this was just another fantasy of JA. Maybe TA only viewed her as a traveling partner. Every other girl he knew was busy taking life seriously and working hard at building a future. While JA was couch surfing.

 

[MeeBee]

Totally agree no ones perfect. But the man he was in public and the man he was behind closed doors are 2 totally different people. its no accident that so many people thought so highly of him. He knew what he was doing was wrong and he knew how to keep it secret. Imo that leaves room to speculate maybe he was capable of manipulation. Not at all a fail.

The reason people thought highly of him was not because he was a "virgin" or because he was a perfect Mormon. It's because he was a good guy who helped others all the time and made people feel good about themselves. Travis could be a non-Mormon doing these things and it would have changed nothing. None of this is manipulative. He's flirting with and carrying on with different women. It's called dating around. And if he wasn't alwaus faithful, then he wasn't fsthful. They are reaching with the manipulation. Manipulation is demanding someone committ to you and make you their number one all while you are still living with and in a relationship with someone else. Travis didn't know this until they broke up.

Manipulative is making someone think you are ok with the friends wih benefits thing and then complaining to your friends and family that the same person won't committ to you. He's not a mind reader.

Manipulative is dating other men and sending Travis the messages claiming they weren't meant for him when it's clearly done on purpose just to make him angry then claiming he's being unfaithful to you when it's clear you are not in a relationship and you're dating too.

Manipulative is logging into someone else's email and sending messages to other people posing as them as well as sending messages to yourself.


Manipulative is pushing the sex to the point that Travis thought she was a nympho and then getting upset when he won't buy the cow so you kill him.

Travis' Mormon friends did not know he was having sex because they would not approve. Some of his friends did know and he confided in them about how much of a hell Jodi was making his life.

This isn't a one sided thing.

 

[Nosey Parker]

i dont think they knew he was playing the field sexually tho.

I don't think Flores was referring to tennis.

 

[rose222]

No words...

:silenced: :shush: :sigh: :notgood::sheesh:

Rest in peace dear Travis..

 

[oceanblueeyes]

what's manipulative? Breaking up and getting back together? Are you saying Travis was 'the abuser?' lol

Anyone who has kept up with this entire case knows who the real manipulator was in this case and it wasn't Travis Alexander. IMO

All of the women who had relationships with Travis....speak highly of him.

 

[geevee]

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer · 1m1 minute ago
Martinez objects again to the numbers written on the text message printouts. When Willmott asks why they are there, Martinez: "speculation"

 

[dog.gone.cute]

From WAT:

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial · 1m 1 minute ago


Juan jetcted already..

Willmotts all "judge meighweigh proach".

Sizzling 1 minute in. #JodiArias

 

[Myvice]

Don't get me wrong, Travis is the victim. I'm saying he behaved like any other man would have in his situation. That doesn't justify how his actions affected the women he dated. And While a normal person would see this as typical behavior someone crazy might view the same actions as very hurtful. Not saying any of that justifies the amount of crazy Jodi put him through either tho.

The problem as I see it is that JA had no idea this was going on at the time unless she was sneaking and reading his emails.

 

[katydid23]

Don't get me wrong, Travis is the victim. I'm saying he behaved like any other man would have in his situation. That doesn't justify how his actions affected the women he dated. And While a normal person would see this as typical behavior someone crazy might view the same actions as very hurtful. Not saying any of that justifies the amount of crazy Jodi put him through either tho.

I am not sure that he and Jodi were 'official' during the time he was flirting with others. But I do know that many young ones these days routinely 'talk' to others online, even while dating someone. it's not considered 'cheating' according to my 22 yr old daughter, unless you actually meet up with the person. But 'talking' to someone else is like having another in reserve or on tap...lol I don't think the jury is going to find TA's behavior all that offensive.

 

[Nali87]

i dont think they knew he was playing the field sexually tho.

That might be so but does it even matter? The one person who surely knew was Jodi Arias. She continued having sex with him even while he was looking around for another woman to date. I think that sort of behavior is wrong, lying to Lisa like he did was wrong, period. But the one person who was very aware and certainly can't be considered a victim is Jodi Arias. They even talked about the sort of women TA was interested in.

If his car had gotten smashed by Lisa, I'd understand. She was wronged.
Jodi Arias? Not so much.