Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 6 - Part 3

[daisydomino]

Just, IMO, but from what I saw on review of the timeline, the first media tweet wondering if JA was testifying was about 15 min. prior to the PIO's first announcement about closing the courtroom (Jen's). Several others posted similar guesses while watching the sidebars, chamber conferences, etc. that were going on. Recess wasn't called until about an hour after the 1st announcement, so this Justus person had over an hour of hearing speculation, etc. before posting, at the earliest. According to one media report, speculation about it ramped up even more while everyone was in the hallway. IMO, this Justus is just another one of the JA supporters who wants to be seen w/inside info, and who takes other's tweets and twists them to JA's advantage. I think they actually believe this is PR work they do for her benefit, but how it actually helps her is a mystery to me. Maybe it sells artwork and bracelets?

While I have my skeptic's hat on, Troy Hayden may have received good info, but I'm still waiting to hear confirmation that JA did indeed testify and caused JSS to close the courtroom. Reporters have been duped before, it's possible, and maybe even planned. As poorly as I think she has conducted this trial, I just can't see any logical reason for JSS going to this extreme for JA. JA clearly loved being the center of attention while she was on the stand last trial, and courts the media whenever she can - that's not the reluctant witness that I'd think a judge would believe had suddenly become shy and fearful. May very well be wrong about all of it, but this is just my thinking for now.

Immediately after the M1 verdict during those ridiculous interviews, JA claimed that she did not get a fair trial in part because of the media circus.

Ironic and stupid, but that's what JA said and it might be one of the things JSS is considering now as she tries to make the retrial bulletproof going forward.

 

[ohreally]

I don't think the clearing of the court was so that Jodi could keep her family out. Keeping her family out could be done by simply putting them on the defense witness list and never calling them. IMO

 

[RR0004]

On the top of my head, one of the lies was that she had testified on behalf of men before. I think he got her to admit that it was maybe only a written report. But even that testimony was sketchy. She could never name anyone as far as I know.

I think you're right. IIRC, it had something to do with her CV.

 

[krkrjx]

Does anyone know the judge that will be hearing the appeal. Will it be a Superior Court Judge Supreme Court Judge?.
We have an election on Tuesday.

Are you hinting that the decision might affect your vote?

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I agree with the posters and media who say it's Jodi, yes I can see her driving a bus right over her family, backing up, the driving over them a few more times .. and not wanting to do it with them staring at her in disbelief .. I guess we'll get to read it all come transcript time though?

 

[daisydomino]

So...does that mean there is no new information on how it came to be believed JA was on the stand (or at the podium)?

I'm not sure what it means other than that one of the 3 sources might indeed have been someone peeking through the door.

 

[Hope4More]

IMO, the new and real danger facing CMJA this time around is Karp's testimony. Nurmi fought like heck to keep her off the stand. I think (not positive because of sealed sessions) that he lost.

Karp will testify that CMJA told her about being abused by Travis a huge number of times.....not the 3 times she told DeMarte about and testified to on the stand. Less clear is what she told Karp about relating to pedophilia or parental abuse.

The DT knows she's going to be exposed as lying to psych experts about TA's abuse, and possibly parental abuse.

I have no guess why JSS would clear the court for her, if that happened. But I can imagine them explaining the discrepancies about reported abuse as fear on her part, and trying to blunt Karp's testimony ahead of time by demonstrating that fear-- by insisting on a closed court.

 

[Steve44]

Thanks...I may have to finally give up on that. I just was quite comfy believing they could not get anyone to testify. I still think they did get someone--other than Jodi. I just have a very hard time accepting that if it was Jodi, the judge would not just say NO. There was that stuff about schedules not being able to be rearranged and the person not able to testify any other time. I would think the judge would be offended by such claims if they were baseless.

Look at this 15 years down the road. A group of lawyers are going over the trial with fine tooth combs and microscopes..."What's this? She didn't allow the defendant to testify when all she had to do was close the court temporarily, for a small part of the trial, in order for the defendant to have her full say? and the public would still be able to see the trial in its entirety after the verdict? What harm would it have done to the public to wait two months. The defendant never got to be heard!"

 

[krkrjx]

Jeffrey Evan Gold @jeffgoldesq · 6h 6 hours ago Will there be any #JodiArias court Monday? Will Appeal court stay action? Even if not, will Jodi be on stand & public out for days? Weeks?

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Troy Hayden @troyhaydenfox10 · 5h 5 hours ago @jeffgoldesq yes, no, yes, yes.

How does Troy know this?

Or maybe he is just being cute.

 

[Foghorn]

:what:

 

[ElleElle]

Are you kidding me?

 

[bznbear]

I think you're right. IIRC, it had something to do with her CV.

It did, indeed.

 

[Hope4More]

She didn't need a closed court to up the daddy mommy abuse ante. Nurmi did that in opening statements, remember? The one time daddy threw against a wall has morphed into multiple occasions when he supposedly choked her into unconsciousness.

Going secret and then accusing daddy of sexual abuse? Highly doubt it. Too drastic a shift in her story, too far in the past to matter much, too unbelievable. Plus, daddy isn't on the top of her revenge-hate list. Travis is. He's the target.

 

[krkrjx]

Look at this 15 years down the road. A group of lawyers are going over the trial with fine tooth combs and microscopes..."What's this? She didn't allow the defendant to testify when all she had to do was close the court temporarily, for a small part of the trial, in order for the defendant to have her full say? and the public would still be able to see the trial in its entirety after the verdict? What harm would it have done to the public to wait two months. The defendant never got to be heard!"

Well, I see what you are saying but I disagree. If she "never got to be heard!" it would have been because she refused to testify. It would have been a case of she had a right to, but declined. And with that NONE of her rights were violated.

I at this point see no reason for the court to have gone into closed session. Maybe there is a valid reason for JSS ruling as she did but so far we have not been provided that.

 

[RadarLuv]

Exactly. I don't think she wants the JURY influenced by the family reaction to her ridiculous tale she is now telling. I don't know how much testifying in front of her parents would effect her directly, considering she has NO conscience.

I agree with the posters and media who say it's Jodi, yes I can see her driving a bus right over her family, backing up, the driving over them a few more times .. and not wanting to do it with them staring at her in disbelief .. I guess we'll get to read it all come transcript time though?

 

[daisydomino]

I agree with the posters and media who say it's Jodi, yes I can see her driving a bus right over her family, backing up, the driving over them a few more times .. and not wanting to do it with them staring at her in disbelief .. I guess we'll get to read it all come transcript time though?

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Looks like Auntie Sue is expecting an apology from the Alexander's. :what:

Looking forward to reading Ms. Halterman's post-bus social media circus posts.

 

[Charterhouse]

Are you kidding me?

I really think the request for an apology is just baiting. JMO

 

[Jmoose]

Hi! RadarLuv. Nurmi used to work for the public defenders council & when he did, he was assigned this case. So was Washington. Some time in, he left the defenders & went into private practice. He had trouble launching that because of this case and its requirements but try as he might, he could not get released from the Arias defense. At one time, he might have escaped (who knows?) but Arias implored the court to retain him as her chief counsel, in writing. Do you think she may be a bit fickle, having read her latter day screeds against him?

Knowing how Jodi operates, she may have wanted Nurmi back in, just because she knew he wanted out, and knew he has a responsibility to do everything he can to keep her off of death row. She seems to think she's smart enough to to control all of the players here. I think this all proves how vicious she is, and was, when it became clear to her that Travis was moving on, and that she wasn't going to end up with him.

 

[Quester]

Looks like Auntie Sue is expecting an apology from the Alexander's. :what:

RSBM - Is/was Auntie Sue bit by the same "bug" as JA? TIA

 

[krkrjx]

She didn't need a closed court to up the daddy mommy abuse ante. Nurmi did that in opening statements, remember? The one time daddy threw against a wall has morphed into multiple occasions when he supposedly choked her into unconsciousness.

Going secret and then accusing daddy of sexual abuse? Highly doubt it. Too drastic a shift in her story, too far in the past to matter much, too unbelievable. Plus, daddy isn't on the top of her revenge-hate list. Travis is. He's the target.

It might not be sexual abuse but the physical abuse suffered at the hands of Dad has certainly escalated from one trial phase to the next. Yes, Nurmi stated very clearly that she had been choked unconscious--something that was never mentioned at the guilt phase when one would think they would have used anything and everything in their arsenal, hoping for an acquittal!