Retrieving wreckage from AirAsia Flight To Singapore- no survivors recovered #2

[newone]

No windows in lavs.

5 windows = 3 or 5 rows x 6?

squishy seats these days - thinking more like 5 right?

thanks

 

[watcher9]

And his brother, mum and dad in 25D, 25E & 25F.

It looks like 25A was not occupied. I wonder if Nico moved there to be near his family. Can people change seats in flight? Just trying to get them all in the same breach of the plane.

 

[newone]

Bringing your image of the plane forward so we can see the seating numbers.

ETA The image itself didn't show up.

here you go......

 

[newone]

It looks like 25A was not occupied. I wonder if Nico moved there to be near his family. Can people change seats in flight? Just trying to get them all in the same breach of the plane.

row 25 was 7th row from the rear of the plane

 

[newone]

more optimism on the pings:

"A day after the tail of the crashed AirAsia plane was fished out of the Java Sea, the search for the missing black boxes intensified Sunday with more pings heard.

The signals were detected over an area spanning from 1 kilometer to 4 kilometers (1.6 miles to 2.4 miles) from the location of the jet's rear."

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/01/11/world/asia/ap-as-indonesia-plane.html?_r=0

 

[SouthAussie]

This is VERY encouraging ....


"However, AirAsia CEO Tony Fernandes expressed optimism by tweeting that while still not confirmed, he was receiving strong information that the recorders may have been found."

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/0...ing-airasia-black-boxes-intensifies-as-pings/

 

[SouthAussie]

Tony Fernandes @tonyfernandes · 3h 3 hours ago
We are led to believe Blackbox may ha e been found. Still not confirmed. But strong info coming. But my man thoughts is fuselage.

https://twitter.com/tonyfernandes

 

[emirates1957]

Did we ever get a seating chart/roster of where each passenger was seated?

I remember seeing a passenger manifest at the beginning of the first thread. Good idea, those windows forward of the tail section received would be pax windows.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

Oh no ... look at it flapping around and pulling open/apart as they pull it up. OMG. ullhair:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn9A0jDrr08

That video reminded me of watching a python eat an alligator.

And isn't it a really bad idea to be pulling sharp metal across inflatable sides of a raft?...never mind, I see they are metal railings .

 

[emirates1957]

It looks like 25A was not occupied. I wonder if Nico moved there to be near his family. Can people change seats in flight? Just trying to get them all in the same breach of the plane.

On a smaller A/C weight and balance would play a crucial part. On a smaller A/C you would need to ask the Capt who would refer to their Load Sheet to see where the centre of gravity sat. If the COG was a problem the pax could reseat themselves in cruise and would have to return to their allocated seat for landing. On larger A/C passengers moving around to obtain a better seat is usually not a problem. Put it this way if all of zone d wanted to sit in zone a then you would have a problem. I would appear that this A/C had one aisle and configured 3 x 3 seats ABC - DEF.

 

[SouthAussie]

Indonesian search teams believe a sonar scan has detected the fuselage of an AirAsia airliner that crashed two weeks ago into the Java Sea, killing all 162 people on board.

Officials said divers had been sent into the water to confirm if more wreckage had been located.

National Search and Rescue Agency operations coordinator S B Supriyadi said a sonar scan had revealed an object measuring 10 metres by four metres by 2.5 metres on the sea floor.

"They suspect it is the body of the plane. There is a big possibility that the black box is near the body of the plane," he said.

"A team of divers has already been sent to prove this data. The diving operation has started."

"If it is the body of the plane then we will first evacuate the victims. Secondly we will search for the black box," Mr Supriyadi said.

AirAsia chief executive Tony Fernandes welcomed the news of the possible discovery of the aircraft's black box.

He tweeted today that "a lot is being done behind the scenes".

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-11/divers-look-for-airasia-planes-black-box/6011194

 

[emirates1957]

typical teenager LOL

i'm hearing you. A little off topic….(not trying to make light of this horrid situation, it reminded me of my young daughter at the time). We had a senior Capt who decided that he really, really wanted to be a woman !!! I felt sorry for him and had him stay with us for a number of months while he was going through hormone treatment. Now we are talking about a man who was never good looking to an emerging female who looked even worse. My daughter opted him/she to drive/collect her from school, because I was embarrassing. Let me reassure you…….he was medical/psych/SIM checked to make sure that he was a competent aviator (he was fantastic).

 

[newone]

i'm hearing you. A little off topic….(not trying to make light of this horrid situation, it reminded me of my young daughter at the time). We had a senior Capt who decided that he really, really wanted to be a woman !!! I felt sorry for him and had him stay with us for a number of months while he was going through hormone treatment. Now we are talking about a man who was never good looking to an emerging female who looked even worse. My daughter opted him/she to drive/collect her from school, because I was embarrassing. Let me reassure you…….he was medical/psych/SIM checked to make sure that he was a competent aviator (he was fantastic).

bbm: my kids thought I was too -- that's why knowing the teen was sitting apart from family cracked me up : eyes rolling

 

[newone]

first two passengers identified after the flight attendant in earliest recovery days

Kevin seat 6 B
Hayati seat 23 B
Tony Linaksita 21F
Shiane Josal 27A
Lim Yan Koen 26C
Jonki Jou 3C
Grayson Linaksita 21C
Kathleen Linaksita 21
Meiji Thejakusuma 10E
Jie Stevie Gunawan 9E
Juanita Limantara 26 B
Wismoyo Ari Prambudi -- cannot find seat
Nick Giovani 11A
Justin Giovani 25F
Liangshi, Indajhu 25E
Lanus, Hermanto 25D


http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/live-blog-airasia-flight/1566508.html


"assuming'' last five windows - 1 per row -- row 27 would be last stop before tail broke off ((going by the tail section that was retrieved yesterday))

 

[SouthAussie]

Sort of sounding as though the plane broke at the first part of the seats after First Class and near the last part of the seats around the mid-20s numbers, and the people seated in those approximate areas were located adrift. It may be that the rest are still in their seats.

 

[newone]

Sort of sounding as though the plane broke at the first part of the seats after First Class and near the last part of the seats around the mid-20s numbers, and the people seated in those approximate areas were located adrift. It may be that the rest are still in their seats.

yes....yet there's that deployed slide!!

can only find three confirmed names so far....as we find more we can match the seats....

 

[Snoods]

They found it !!!! (They think.)


A search team on Sunday (Jan 11) detected the black box of the crashed AirAsia flight QZ8501, a day after the tail section of the aircraft was recovered from the seabed.

According to local media reports, specialist search team BPPT detected the black box at a depth of 30 metres in the Java Sea.

The black box signal was detected in the area where the tail section of the aircraft was found, reported local media.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/qz8501-black-box-detected/1582622.html

Wonderful news!!!!

It was detected in the same area the tail was found? I wonder why it wasn't detected earlier. Or was it? I get confused with all the different pings being detected.

 

[Snoods]

They identified Nico's 9-year old brother today. :rose:

.... and Justin Giovanni, 9, Indonesian police said at a press conference at the East Java regional police headquarters.

The boy was travelling with his parents and his brother Nico, 18, who held a Singapore Ministry of Education scholarship and had studied at Anglo-Chinese School (Independent) and recently completed his first year at SAJC. Only his father Herumanto Tanus is still missing.

http://www.straitstimes.com/news/as...fied-indonesia-minister-#sthash.EXbOpkhH.dpuf

RIP Giovanni family


http://210.5.43.96/my/news/the-stor...-and-passengers-onboard-airasia-flight-qz8501

 

[emirates1957]

Please correct me if wrong. The F/A who was found, was she a trainee ? If she was a trainee maybe she was seated at the L1/R1 door and activated the armed exit slide. If she was seated at the rear of the A/C considering what we know so far, a crew member would have sustained the first impact which would render them incapable. Whoever activated that slide should be remembered as a hero. Will this lady have an autopsy. So many questions. I do hope the families of the deceased receive full disclosure of all events.

 

[Peliman]

I read a comment there were two different ping locations. I'm not sure they'll ever find those black boxes in time. This is not confirmed yet, it is supposedly the pings they may have heard.