Retrieving wreckage from AirAsia Flight To Singapore- no survivors recovered

[SouthAussie]

This article says the same thing ...

AirAsia flight crashes in Java Sea, wreckage found in Belitung: Reports

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...nesia-to-singapore-goes-missing/1/409199.html


But Indonesia said later today that all official reports would come from them, out of Surabaya, and so far nothing. :dunno:

 

[SCHMAE]

http://nasional.kompas.com/read/201...Pesawat.yang.Jatuh.di.Perairan.Belitung.Timur ( enter google translate )

''A plane reportedly crashed in the Pacific ocean waters of the East , the Pacific Islands , Sunday ( 28/12 ) . It is not yet certain point the crash site .'''
''"Did Mr. Danlanud phone Mr ( Basuri ) , no information ngasi water plane bus crashed in the waters around Beltim , " said Yuhinu , aide Regent Beltim Basuri T Purnama , when contacted bangkapos.com , Sunday ( 28/12 )'''

( Mods, no clue if this is an ok source or not because I don't even know what that site is called.)

 

[SouthAussie]

Here is another report of a jet in the water ...

Indonesia sends team to search Belitung after rumours of jet in water

Indonesian daily Jakarta Post reported a representative from the agency’s base in island’s capital city in Pangkalpinang saying they believed the passenger plane with 162 on board may have gone down 145km to the east of the islands — which is the mid-way mark between its point of departure in the island of Surabaya in Indonesia, and its destination of Singapore.

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/m...search-belitung-after-rumours-of-jet-in-water

 

[Elley Mae]

This article says the same thing ...

AirAsia flight crashes in Java Sea, wreckage found in Belitung: Reports

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...nesia-to-singapore-goes-missing/1/409199.html


But Indonesia said later today that all official reports would come from them, out of Surabaya, and so far nothing. :dunno:

bbm Just because it's not official doesn't mean it's not true.

 

[SouthAussie]

bbm Just because it's not official doesn't mean it's not true.

Agreed.

Here's another one ... these are all from national news media in that region.

KUALA LUMPUR - Indonesia’s National Search and Rescue Agency (Basarnas) has sent a team down to its Bangka-Belitung Islands, following unconfirmed reports of a jet said to have gone down in the waters there.

http://www.malaysiandigest.com/news...h-belitung-after-rumours-of-jet-in-water.html

 

[Elley Mae]

Indonesia AirAsia has a fleet of 30 Airbus A320s. The missing plane has been in service for just over six years, according to airfleets.net.

All AirAsia-branded airlines operate aircraft made by Airbus, which has orders for several hundred planes from the group. AirAsia is considered one of the European planemaker's most important customers.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/...alts-search-for-missing-airasia-flight-qz8501

.......................................

Latest developments

Air Asia boss Tony Fernandes says plane was in mint condition

No oil slicks found, distress radiobeacon not sending signal

Search and rescue (SAR) ends for today, resumes tomorrow morning

Malaysia deploys one military aircraft and three vessels, with helicopters on board for the search


http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/284739

 

[jamiect]

Informative interview from aviation expert on The Today Show.

http://www.today.com/video/today/56685088#56685088

 

[sherbetjello]

Interesting article on Forbes.

If an aircraft encounters icing conditions at altitude – where moisture and very cold temperatures can combine – and icing forms on the pitot tubes, this can cause a blockage or partial blockage of one or more of the tubes. This in turn can lead to incorrect readings of the air speed.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngog...pitot-tubes-and-how-could-they-affect-flight/

 

[watcher9]

If the plane crashed into a mountain on one of the islands, would there be any smoke to be seen in the heavy rain storm?

 

[ilovepierre]

Two minutes. And during that time the flight crew would be frantically trying to prevent the plane from crashing. They would not be thinking about sending out a May day which could not help them in that situation anyhow. Your priorities would be on preventing a crash. Not asking for help from entities hundreds of miles away.

Right.
A Mayday call wouldn't have been that helpful.
By the time the Mayday call is put out and help arrives, it's already going to be too late.

 

[ilovepierre]

Just got caught up and I have cnn on *( let's face it, cnn loves missing planes ) . They have not said one word about a crashed plane report or anything of the sort. So were the earlier reports of debris / wreckage untrue? unfounded? hoax? TIA

BBM.
I'm thinking the reports were false.
We would have heard something by now if the plane HAD crashed and debris found.
Such a sad story. I pray there is some resolution soon and this doesn't become another MH370 story.

 

[sherbetjello]

With MH370, there were early reports that the plane crashed in the South China Sea. Even had a witness that worked on an oil rig who "saw it fall from the sky on fire", IIRC.

From all reports on the news with the Asia Air plane, boats in the area that are equipped with strong lighting are being asked to leave them on and watch the water for debris overnight.

Sounds like they haven't spotted anything prior to the sun setting. Seems they are taking precautions, however.

 

[ilovepierre]

Are you aware of their religion?

According to Wikipedia, Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, Confucianism are the main religions in Indonesia. Although almost 90% practice Islam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Indonesia

 

[sherbetjello]

Sunrise/Sunset of Surabaya
http://www.timeanddate.com/sun/indonesia/surabaya

Flight 8501 Manifest
http://www.dephub.go.id/public/0506_001 PAX AWQ8501.pdf

 

[ilovepierre]

Thanks for the link to the manifest sherbetjello!!
ETA: has there been a cargo manifest posted anywhere yet?

 

[trigger]

Interesting article on Forbes.



http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngog...pitot-tubes-and-how-could-they-affect-flight/

I totally forgot about icing.

Has Mary Schiavo been on CNN yet?

 

[jamiect]

I totally forgot about icing.

Has Mary Schiavo been on CNN yet?

:yes: Deja vu all over again.

 

[sherbetjello]

Thanks for the link to the manifest sherbetjello!!
ETA: has there been a cargo manifest posted anywhere yet?

Looking around right now. I will say, there are a couple of versions of the 8501 manifest, which is making me feel some kind of way. I posted this one because it looks to come from a company of cargo ships, which I assume got the manifest because they have large boats in the area.

I totally forgot about icing.

Has Mary Schiavo been on CNN yet?

She's popped in here and there and I am sure she will be on more throughout the day. It's CNN "B-Team" right now.

 

[skibaboo]

Flight 8501 Manifest
http://www.dephub.go.id/public/0506_001 PAX AWQ8501.pdf

JESSICA, JESSICA
MERRY, MERRY

What is that about?

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Thanks for the link to the manifest sherbetjello!!
ETA: has there been a cargo manifest posted anywhere yet?

Hopefully not mangosteens.
I can't believe this is happening again