Retrieving wreckage from AirAsia Flight To Singapore- no survivors recovered

[KEVINinTO]

CNN reporting that local TV was broadcast into the holding room for the families and they were subjected to images of bodies floating in the water A representative from Air Asia quickly changed the channel.

 

[restarea]

6 bodies recovered so far, they weren't wearing life jackets.

 

[KEVINinTO]

LIVE local TV broadcast (WARNING GRAPHIC)

http://www.mivo.com/#/tvone

 

[newone]

if there were life rafts found,,,,then I am still keeping hope alive there are some survivors.....

 

[restarea]

if there were life rafts found,,,,then I am still keeping hope alive there are some survivors.....

If none of the bodies have life jackets on, they didn't have time to react to what was happening. There wont be any survivors.

 

[RT51]

if there were life rafts found,,,,then I am still keeping hope alive there are some survivors.....

We all hope so, but I really think with the size of the debris, I'm sure the impact was not gentle (trying to say it carefully).

 

[emirates1957]

Thank you, for your invaluable input on this thread.

Oh goodness….my thanks goes to everyone else…..I am so happy I can shine a little light.

 

[emirates1957]

If those bodies are wearing life jackets and are intact then this just got weirder.
If the plane is mostly intact then I will be even more confused.
If this was a nearly pulled off ditching it will be heartbreaking to think how close they were to surviving. :tears:

I'm hearing you Facetious.

 

[emirates1957]

Bodies wearing life jackets.
They knew they were going down.
I sure hope they can find the FDR and CVR and that they worked correctly. lease:

Sorry I haven't visited any photographs as yet. So there are several bodies with life jackets on?

 

[emirates1957]

I feel so bad for the families. That is somebody's loved one! Shame on the media for showing such graphic pictures.

Exactly nobody should have to view their love ones like that, sensationalism !!

 

[restarea]

I already said this a few times but none of the bodies recovered so far had life jackets on. The clear photo of the body being shown on TV shows a woman in her underwear only with no life jacket.

The bodies so far found have been brought to an Indonesian Navy ship, National Search and Rescue Director Supriyadi told. The corpses were swollen, but intact, and did not have life jackets on, he said, as cited by AP.

 

[LaLaw2000]

I know I'd read there was one infant and I believe some children. My heart is hurting for them as well as any elderly. I cannot imagine the pain for the families.

Even if the aircraft went down very quickly, the passengers knew what was happening. I pray all will be located intact and their bodies given to their families for proper burial, cremation, or whatever their individual customs calls for.


raying:

 

[SouthAussie]

Ohhhh ... how terrible, but a relief ... such mixed feelings. Sounds as though the debris is exactly where the Orion spotted suspicious objects yesterday, as per this map I posted at that time. 160km SW of Pangkalan Bun. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...a-Flight-To-Singapore&p=11343698#post11343698

Blessings to the families in their time of grief. raying:


Items resembling an emergency slide, plane door and other objects have been spotted in the sea during an aerial search for the plane.

"For the time being it can be confirmed that it's the AirAsia plane and the transport minister will depart soon to Pangkalan Bun," Djoko Murjatmodjo said.

"Based on the observation by search and rescue personnel, significant things have been found such as a passenger door and cargo door.

"It's in the sea, 160 kilometres southwest of Pangkalan Bun," he said, referring to the town in Central Kalimantan on the island of Borneo.

An AFP photographer on the search flight that spotted the debris said he had seen objects resembling a life raft, life jackets and long orange tubes.

Air force official Agus Dwi Putranto told reporters: "We spotted about 10 big objects and many more small white-coloured objects which we could not photograph."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-30/airasia-qz8501-debris-spotted-is-from-plane-official/5993438

 

[SouthAussie]

Indonesian Search and Rescue Agency Chief Henry Bambang Soelistyo said he is 95 percent certain the wreckage, just six miles from the plane's last reported position, belongs to the missing passenger jet. An Indonesian air force Hercules search plane overhead saw bodies and the murky outline of a plane underwater, he added.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/search-lost-airasia-plane-expands-land-article-1.2060331

The article speaks more of the people found ... no lifejackets on them ... just lifejackets floating in the water. Maybe they were trying to get the lifejackets out and on.

 

[SouthAussie]

Two mysterious oil slicks spotted Monday were later revealed to be coral reefs, officials said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/search-lost-airasia-plane-expands-land-article-1.2060331

 

[RT51]

Maybe those here who know more about aircraft: If the plane is stalled, will it still have power for the attendants to make announcements on the overhead to put on life preservers? Or, if it is going into a dive, would the velocity prevent putting on life preservers? I don't mean to sound morbid, but I'm sure in an emergency such as this, the calm way they explain the emergency procedures must go out the window at that time. Not to mention, being an international flight, I'm sure there are language barriers too.

I only have experience on the ground, and I know when the planes are powered down and parked at jetways, the power comes from GPU units and heat/cooling comes from the jetways.

 

[restarea]

Hopefully them being able to see the plane means recovery shouldn't be too difficult. These families will be able to bury their loved ones.

 

[emirates1957]

Maybe those here who know more about aircraft: If the plane is stalled, will it still have power for the attendants to make announcements on the overhead to put on life preservers? Or, if it is going into a dive, would the velocity prevent putting on life preservers? I don't mean to sound morbid, but I'm sure in an emergency such as this, the calm way they explain the emergency procedures must go out the window at that time. Not to mention, being an international flight, I'm sure there are language barriers too.

The Chief Purser would be aware of the common language from the passenger manifest to make the appropriate announcement in an emergency. And yes standard procedures would go out of the window. If these pax were not wearing life jackets or oxygen masks you would assume that this was an unprepared emergency that was imminent and catastrophic. Let's hope the black box can reveal the time the skipper asked to ascend and the moment he lost contact with ATC.

 

[newone]

Maybe those here who know more about aircraft: If the plane is stalled, will it still have power for the attendants to make announcements on the overhead to put on life preservers? Or, if it is going into a dive, would the velocity prevent putting on life preservers? I don't mean to sound morbid, but I'm sure in an emergency such as this, the calm way they explain the emergency procedures must go out the window at that time. Not to mention, being an international flight, I'm sure there are language barriers too.

I only have experience on the ground, and I know when the planes are powered down and parked at jetways, the power comes from GPU units and heat/cooling comes from the jetways.

wouldn't sudden and harsh descent also activate oxygen automatically? (I don't know) -- that's when I would be reaching under my seat....:blushing:

 

[SouthAussie]

Indonesia’s National Search and Rescue Agency reportedly said Tuesday that two emergency signals that it received were not from the missing aircraft.

http://www.ibtimes.com/airasia-flig...ng-plane-door-emergency-slide-spotted-1769424


:waitasec: So, was there another emergency in the area? Or someone else (UAE409?) signalling an emergency? Remember they had shown UAE409 and the missing plane on a chart in relation to one another. And I remember early in the piece AirAsia saying an event had happened, and not elaborating on what the event was.