Ron C. #7

[Emeralgem]

Allow me to let you in on a little secret...PCSO botched this case for the "professionals" that they are supposed to be! FDLE and the FBI haven't done anything to salvage it that I can see at all!! I believe their words were...we are starting OVER. Now..after six months into this case...this is VERY troubling to me. Maybe they SHOULD call in internet crime forum posters to work this case since the people hired to do the job obviously have not been able to get a handle on things! I am smart enough to know that you do not throw blankets out onto a ramp that could prove to be the exit point of a kidnapping!! So I guess maybe they COULD learn a thing or two from an internet poster, eh?!

Misty is the one who stated at first that Haleigh and Jr. were in the bed with her.. Ron C also stated this to be FACT..
I doubt the scent on those sheets or that blanket had Haleigh's scent on them..
Misty did alot of washing that night.

I'm thinking this was done purposely..
Since then Ron C and Misty have both changed their story as to where Haleigh was sleeping. Ron C and Misty mislead LE.. Imagine that

 

[Whisperer]

LE has stated that are satisified with RC during 7pm -3am timeline that is in question and that he worked his shift.

That's a little spin there, Busy...

What they said is they were satisfied with the eight hours of the time in question. They did not say "he worked the entire shift...."

 

[Busylady]

I would love for RC to be out there - but LE ask them not to - and as you can see by Maries quote it talks about someone may slip up and talk about it if things calm down. Well as a parent of a missing child you would not want to do anything that could harm the investigation or stop someone from slipping up with info that would lead to your child being found. You trust that LE knows what they are doing, unfortuantely I think this was a really bad move and hopefully the Cummings family will get out there soon and start shouting from the rooftops.

 

[Quiche]

I am very frustrated.

The task force doesn't excite me anymore since they did not have another meeting in 30 days. I don't know how much real factual information they have to work with since PCSO didn't bother to forensically test much of the material gathered. They do have some witness statements and those 4,000 supposed tips to go through (which 3,997 will probably turn out to be crap which should never have been called in) and to weed out. I hope they can turn up something, but with the poor job done in the initial stages of this investigation...it is going to be a very slim chance of it happening, imo.

I can understand LE not testing every piece of evidence until they have an idea of what they are testing for. I'm certain they processed fingerprints, any blood/saliva, the vehicles etc. But every hair, fiber, and trace element-- I mean we're talking an entire house! It would be fiscally proper to identify which pieces of evidence were pertinent. jmo

Have faith, we simply don't know what they have.

 

[Emeralgem]

Jane Velez-Mitchell has begged for Ron/Misty to come on her show,,many many times
i imagine parents of a missing child would jump at that offer
i just do not understand why they are not

Is baffling isn't it.. JMO

 

[Busylady]

I posted links showing he worked his shift Whisper and they have cell phone pings as well as other employees to back that up. It is up to you to decide if you want to believe that information or not. I am tired of going round and round when it is obvious you don't agree that he worked his shift, and the links saying he did is not gonna make you rethink that position so it is pointless for me to continue posting the same links and discussing the same stuff over and over. We will just have to agree to disagree that RC worked his shift.

That's a little spin there, Busy...

What they said is they were satisfied with the eight hours of the time in question. They did not say "he worked the entire shift...."

 

[Whisperer]

Actually, it wasn't his attorneys that asked him not to speak to the press.

According to his attorneys, he was advised and they said they are limiting the media.
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http://mistycroslin.com/tag/law-office-of-kimball-snider/

 

[Quiche]

LE has stated that are satisified with RC during 7pm -3am timeline that is in question and that he worked his shift.

The word "satisfied" is very nebulous in this instance-- the details of LE's information are left intentionally vague. imo

I realize Ron was at work at some point, but I must have missed LE confirming that Ron worked his entire shift. Do you have a link? tia

 

[Busylady]

So far, Cummings has a solid alibi. Not only do co-workers like Zastrow tell police they recall him on property, even taking his dinner break in the cafeteria, but The Bald Truth has learned exclusively that Cummings cell phone pings came from cell towers by the steel plant.

“We had two phone pings that show he never left the plant,” a lead law enforcement investigator on the case tells me in an exclusive interview. “There’s a cell tower that covers the plant and it hits when he gets there…We don’t have pings from any other tower” during his shift. “And we have people who saw him there throughout the night, as secondary backup.”

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/...s-solid-alibi/

The word "satisfied" is very nebulous in this instance-- the details of LE's information are left intentionally vague. imo

I realize Ron was at work at some point, but I must have missed LE confirming that Ron worked his entire shift. Do you have a link? tia

 

[Whisperer]

I posted links showing he worked his shift Whisper and they have cell phone pings as well as other employees to back that up. It is up to you to decide if you want to believe that information or not. I am tired of going round and round when it is obvious you don't agree that he worked his shift, and the links saying he did is not gonna make you rethink that position so it is pointless for me to continue posting the same links and discussing the same stuff over and over. We will just have to agree to disagree that RC worked his shift.

And I thought I posted the rebuttal...maybe I didn't~ You are going by that Coworker from AH site, correct? And AH said he had cell pings....all this was rebutted further down on the page you posted.

I am going by what Major Bowling said.

The fact is the Major Bowling used the term "Eight hours". He never used the word "shift" or "entire shift" or anything of the sort.

I think the problem is people are implying that he worked 11 hours. We only have facts of 8...so far. We have rumors of people telling us. If this were true and RC worked 11 hours and you have proof, it needs to be told to LE.

 

[Quiche]

LE requesting Ron to "lay low" could simply mean don't go out and confront individuals on your own, don't get yourself into any trouble...let us do our job.

It would be highly unorthodox to ask a father of a missing child to keep their name, image, and circumstances OUT of legitimate media, and therefore, the public's mind. I don't believe it for a minute, but jmo

 

[orbison11]

LE requesting Ron to "lay low" could simply mean don't go out and confront individuals on your own, don't get yourself into any trouble...let us do our job.

It would be highly unorthodox to ask a father of a missing child to keep their name, image, and circumstances OUT of legitimate media, and therefore, the public's mind. I don't believe it for a minute, but jmo

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you know what Q,,,,thinking in that light, i think i agree with u
did le ask elizabeth smart's father to stay out of the media?
did polly klass's father get asked by le to stay out of the media?
the list could go on
i just have a hard time with it,,,,is all

orb

 

[Whisperer]

Okay, that still doesn't provide any facts that he worked 10 or 11 hours...so they saw him during the night. He was there.

 

[Flossie JMO]

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you know what Q,,,,thinking in that light, i think i agree with u
did le ask elizabeth smart's father to stay out of the media?
did polly klass's father get asked by le to stay out of the media?
the list could go on
i just have a hard time with it,,,,is all

orb

Does this mean you don't believe Marie?

 

[Busylady]

Like I said no point in going round and round - LE said he worked his shift, LE said they have cell pings as well as coworkers statements based on the link I posted- that is good enough for me. Like I said we can just agree to disagree.

And I thought I posted the rebuttal...maybe I didn't~ You are going by that Coworker from AH site, correct? And AH said he had cell pings....all this was rebutted further down on the page you posted.

I am going by what Major Bowling said.

The fact is the Major Bowling used the term "Eight hours". He never used the word "shift" or "entire shift" or anything of the sort.

I think the problem is people are implying that he worked 11 hours. We only have facts of 8...so far. We have rumors of people telling us. If this were true and RC worked 11 hours and you have proof, it needs to be told to LE.

 

[Whisperer]

...........
you know what Q,,,,thinking in that light, i think i agree with u
did le ask elizabeth smart's father to stay out of the media?
did polly klass's father get asked by le to stay out of the media?
the list could go on
i just have a hard time with it,,,,is all

orb

LE would want them in the media, not out! ITA. The lawyers thought it best for him not to make appearances....no surprise there.

 

[Quiche]

So far, Cummings has a solid alibi. Not only do co-workers like Zastrow tell police they recall him on property, even taking his dinner break in the cafeteria, but The Bald Truth has learned exclusively that Cummings cell phone pings came from cell towers by the steel plant.

“We had two phone pings that show he never left the plant,” a lead law enforcement investigator on the case tells me in an exclusive interview. “There’s a cell tower that covers the plant and it hits when he gets there…We don’t have pings from any other tower” during his shift. “And we have people who saw him there throughout the night, as secondary backup.”

http://www.artharris.com/2009/04/27/...s-solid-alibi/

Not fool proof proof, but it's something, lol. Thanks Busy...

 

[Busylady]

Shift is 4:30pm - 3:00 am - 10 1/2 shift which includes a 30 minute lunch. The article state he was there during his shift. I don't know what else to say so once again just gonna say agreed to disagree and move on.

Okay, that still doesn't provide any facts that he worked 10 or 11 hours...so they saw him during the night. He was there.

 

[Busylady]

As far as media attention LE might of told them simply because it had turned into a circus, it wasn't about Haleigh anyway and it was just causing distraction. Hopefully now both families will get out there and it will be about Haleigh and nothing else.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

IIRC, Ed Smart was asked by LE not to go to the media and he did it anyway. He showed the sketch that his other daughter came up with and put it out to the public which led to Elizabeth's return.

I don't know about Marc Klaas, but the next time he is on here...I will be sure to ask him about it.

LE actually does not want families talking to the media because they could give out information they do not want in the public. Teresa mentioned this when she was interviewed about Rj's story after Crystal (against the advice of LE) took Rj on Geraldo. Marie also mentioned LE has asked that they not speak to the media while she was speaking to the media recently concerning the search of her property.

Originally Posted by orbison11
...........
you know what Q,,,,thinking in that light, i think i agree with u
did le ask elizabeth smart's father to stay out of the media?
did polly klass's father get asked by le to stay out of the media?
the list could go on
i just have a hard time with it,,,,is all

orb