Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #14

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The U.S. Secretary of Defense was confirmed by the U.S. Senate. Secretary Hegseth is now in office, following his Senate confirmation, whatever detractors feel about him. He'll do a great job in getting our military back on track regarding their actual mission.
What makes you believe that, he has no qualifications, the cabinet appointing was returning favors. The original cabinet the first time, most left him in disgust, they DID have qualifications and wasted them with him we saw and themselves. Never has been done, just with t.
 
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. This shows the start of the war in 2022 . Okean elzy wrote this when Russians took crimea . The singer vaslav was a soldier was a member of Ukraini parliament. The pictures show what happens daily and why Ukraine keeps fighting
 
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. This shows the start of the war in 2022 . Okean elzy wrote this when Russians took crimea . The singer vaslav was a soldier was a member of Ukraini parliament. The pictures show what happens daily and why Ukraine keeps fighting
Opps video won't play here but it's okean elzy not your war released in 2022
 
  • #404
Wow - there is more

"Donald Trump was cultivated as a Russian asset over 40 years and proved so willing to parrot anti-western propaganda that there were celebrations in Moscow, a former KGB spy has told the Guardian.
A few more quotes from this

"Then, in 1987, Trump and Ivana visited Moscow and St Petersburg for the first time. Shvets said he was fed KGB talking points and flattered by KGB operatives who floated the idea that he should go into politics.

The ex-major recalled: “For the KGB, it was a charm offensive. They had collected a lot of information on his personality so they knew who he was personally. The feeling was that he was extremely vulnerable intellectually, and psychologically, and he was prone to flattery."
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Soon after he returned to the US, Trump began exploring a run for the Republican nomination for president and even held a campaign rally in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. On 1 September, he took out a full-page advert in the New York Times, Washington Post and Boston Globe headlined: “There’s nothing wrong with America’s Foreign Defense Policy that a little backbone can’t cure.”

The ad offered some highly unorthodox opinions in Ronald Reagan’s cold war America, accusing ally Japan of exploiting the US and expressing scepticism about US participation in Nato. It took the form of an open letter to the American people “on why America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves”.

The bizarre intervention was cause for astonishment and jubilation in Russia. A few days later Shvets, who had returned home by now, was at the headquarters of the KGB’s first chief directorate in Yasenevo when he received a cable celebrating the ad as a successful “active measure” executed by a new KGB asset."

"Trump’s election win in 2016 was again welcomed by Moscow. Special counsel Robert Mueller did not establish a conspiracy between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. But the Moscow Project, an initiative of the Center for American Progress Action Fund, found the Trump campaign and transition team had at least 272 known contacts and at least 38 known meetings with Russia-linked operatives."
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Unger, the author of seven books and a former contributing editor for Vanity Fair magazine, said of Trump: “He was an asset. It was not this grand, ingenious plan that we’re going to develop this guy and 40 years later he’ll be president. At the time it started, which was around 1980, the Russians were trying to recruit like crazy and going after dozens and dozens of people.”

“Trump was the perfect target in a lot of ways: his vanity, narcissism made him a natural target to recruit. He was cultivated over a 40-year period, right up through his election.”"
 
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Opps video won't play here but it's okean elzy not your war released in 2022
The link still takes it to the youtube video, but the video wants age verification before it can be watched :-)
 
  • #406
Wow - there is more

"Donald Trump was cultivated as a Russian asset over 40 years and proved so willing to parrot anti-western propaganda that there were celebrations in Moscow, a former KGB spy has told the Guardian.

From the article, this says it all -

Special counsel Robert Mueller did not establish a conspiracy between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians.
 
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MAR 8, 2025
Sweden will provide 22.5 million Swedish kronor ($2.2 million) to support Ukrainian women, the Swedish Embassy in Ukraine announced on March 8.

“On March 8, we pay tribute to the Ukrainian women who bravely defend their country, and all of Europe, as military and humanitarian workers, entrepreneurs and political leaders,” the post said.
 
  • #408
Thank you for your perspective Arkay. I appreciate it and I stand with you.

Am Israel Chai. May your great-grandfather's memory and legacy be a blessing. I am certain he would be extremely proud of you and your humanity.

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Thank you, @Vern, that is the most lovely thing you can say to me.

Thank you also for all the knowledge you impart to us, in respect to Canada and also the military world. I find it very illuminating, particularly at this crazy moment when Canada and the U.S. are at odds.

I’m sure your forefathers and foremothers would be very proud of you.
 
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From the article, this says it all -

Special counsel Robert Mueller did not establish a conspiracy between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians.
But read the rest! That is taken out of context.
 
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So from the mouth of a former KGB spy, Trump is a known Russian asset and has been for circa 40 years - link above. JMO It answers everything. And so if that is true - what do you do about it? Can Trump be convicted? MOO
 
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But read the rest! That is taken out of context.
Yep. Just below is says:

“Shvets, who has carried out his own investigation, said: “For me, the Mueller report was a big disappointment because people expected that it will be a thorough investigation of all ties between Trump and Moscow, when in fact what we got was an investigation of just crime-related issues. There were no counterintelligence aspects of the relationship between Trump and Moscow.”
 
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Yep. Just below is says:

“Shvets, who has carried out his own investigation, said: “For me, the Mueller report was a big disappointment because people expected that it will be a thorough investigation of all ties between Trump and Moscow, when in fact what we got was an investigation of just crime-related issues. There were no counterintelligence aspects of the relationship between Trump and Moscow.”
And the earlier parts? From the mouth of a former KGB spy. And the last paragraph:

"Unger, the author of seven books and a former contributing editor for Vanity Fair magazine, said of Trump: “He was an asset. It was not this grand, ingenious plan that we’re going to develop this guy and 40 years later he’ll be president. At the time it started, which was around 1980, the Russians were trying to recruit like crazy and going after dozens and dozens of people.”

“Trump was the perfect target in a lot of ways: his vanity, narcissism made him a natural target to recruit. He was cultivated over a 40-year period, right up through his election.”

No point denying it. MOO
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  • #413
What is Europe's plan to end the war in Ukraine as soon as possible and to end all of the deaths?
 
  • #414
What is Europe's plan to end the war in Ukraine as soon as possible and to end all of the deaths?
We are not even allowed in discussions so not the right people to ask tbh
 
  • #415
I don't know about Europe, but I think replacing Trump would be a good start! Although it seems this is probably not possible. What are the US Laws about being a Russian asset? MOO
 
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What is Europe's plan to end the war in Ukraine as soon as possible and to end all of the deaths?
The plan appears to be....bash Trump and the Americans...in this thread. However, I think the European leaders are in dialogue with the evil Trump, and I think other world leaders are in dialogue too...the missing link is Putin.

I guess all out World War 3 could be unleashed, but you see, a threatened Russian just may launch a nuke or two, towards London for instance, or Paris, or Brussels, or all over....that'd be real bad.

So indeed, what does one suggest be done? I know a man who has a suggestion, presumably hated for it.
 
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Not the Americans - just Trump! Because he's the one who just empowered Russia by taking away intelligence from Ukraine - which is a hostile move JMO.
 
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I think Vance just likes insulting all other countries , they have been insulting us in Canada to and we are suppose to be allys . not so friendly now though. Tbh how much respect do other countries have for them now. No one is forcing trump to help Ukraini if you don't want to help don't but don't be a jerk about it and point a big red arrow telling Russia to. The more we hear the more disgusted people are in what trump is doing. How many country's besides Russia approve of Trump's actions. Respect is earned and I have no respect for trump just my own opinion

Reminds me of that saying: Lead, follow or get out of the way.
 
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The plan appears to be....bash Trump and the Americans...in this thread. However, I think the European leaders are in dialogue with the evil Trump, and I think other world leaders are in dialogue too...the missing link is Putin.

I guess all out World War 3 could be unleashed, but you see, a threatened Russian just may launch a nuke or two, towards London for instance, or Paris, or Brussels, or all over....that'd be real bad.

So indeed, what does one suggest be done? I know a man who has a suggestion, presumably hated for it.
For the record people do not hate Americans at all!! For the record some of the comments about Europeans have been plain nasty but...as I said people do not hate America. They may not like Trump and Vance but that is just two people.

Yes Trump is criticised for how he acted last Friday. Incidentally Russia has been threatening to nuke the Uk the last few years. He STILL can not be allowed to do as he likes though.
 
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