Australia Samantha Murphy, 51, last seen leaving her property to go for a run in the Canadian State Forest, Ballarat 100km NW of Melbourne, 4 Feb 2024 #2

[Deleted member 293720]

I doubt her aunt or uncle would make up the 10am meet. I’d take this to be correct, I think it would be known to her aunt and uncle and other FM who she’s meeting with. Why else would aunt/uncle put this information out via the press?

Daily Mail you take with a grain of salt

 

[DK007]

yes, reaching for anything that doesnt point to a family member

Here’s hoping vpol has confirmed the whereabouts of FM on the morning but not releasing any information about this to the public

 

[nightrider17]

Here's a wild one - what if the 10.00am appointment person decided to come over early and pick SM up? JMO

Only saying that -because it appears you can drive down the side street - without being captured? MOO

I guess there would be CCTV from town of that car if they came from Ballarat? JMO

 

[BreakingNews]

I think it was reported there is cctv footage SM walking down her driveway to go jogging and then she was out of frame.

Police may have it, but it has not been made public.

 

[Deleted member 293720]

Here’s hoping vpol has confirmed the whereabouts of FM on the morning but not releasing any information about this to the public

Nothing has been released, on who was in the house on the morning she had disappeared. With a lot of speculation coming out, this seems to be holding tight with police

 

[DK007]

Here's a wild one - what if the 10.00am appointment person decided to come over early and pick SM up? JMO

Only saying that -because it appears you can drive down the side street - without being captured? MOO

I guess there would be CCTV from town of that car if they came from Ballarat? JMO

Maybe the 10am was a medical appointment. Just putting it out there ….

 

[nightrider17]

Does anyone know why the searched Brown Hill and Black Hill areas. JMO

Search area expands for missing Ballarat woman Samantha Murphy

The search for the 51-year-old mother focused on Woowookarung Regional Park and the bushland area near the Buninyong Golf Course yesterday, but has now expanded to Black Hill.

www.abc.net.au

That mentions Black hill area.

Items recovered during search for missing Ballarat woman Samantha Murphy not related to case

Police say items recovered during a search of bushland near the home of missing Ballarat East woman Samantha Murphy are not related to her whereabouts.

www.abc.net.au

There's a map highlighting Black Hill and Brown Hill?

I know it was earlier in the search, but do you think they were basing it on any information or just ruling it out?JMO

 

[Lucy6226]

Maybe the 10am was a medical appointment. Just putting it out there ….

On a Sunday??
I'm in the UK and we can't get appointments on a weekday

 

[DK007]

Does anyone know why the searched Brown Hill and Black Hill areas. JMO

Search area expands for missing Ballarat woman Samantha Murphy

The search for the 51-year-old mother focused on Woowookarung Regional Park and the bushland area near the Buninyong Golf Course yesterday, but has now expanded to Black Hill.

www.abc.net.au

That mentions Black hill area.

Items recovered during search for missing Ballarat woman Samantha Murphy not related to case

Police say items recovered during a search of bushland near the home of missing Ballarat East woman Samantha Murphy are not related to her whereabouts.

www.abc.net.au

There's a map highlighting Black Hill and Brown Hill?

I know it was earlier in the search, but do you think they were basing it on any information or just ruling it out?JMO

Were those areas searched before or after the cctv footage of the other jogger was released? Not knowing the other jogger wasn’t SM ?

 

[DK007]

On a Sunday??
I'm in the UK and we can't get appointments on a weekday

Some medical practices are open 24/7 here.
This is one in Ballarat open Sunday (correction)

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[ScottToorak]

In recent days 2 tobacco shops have been set alight in Ballarat. Is it possible she ran past a crew who were camped in the bush preparing for such an attack on the Sunday night and her presence on the Sunday morning foiled their plan by identifying their vehicle(s). They then disposed of her. It would make sense that any intending perpetrator of arson would enter a town well before the intended attack time to ensure not being easily identified. We now know that that area is not covered by cctv very much and would be the ideal staging post for intending tobacco shop arsonists. If this is the case then the arsonists committment to their plan was evidenced by the fact that the attacks have now been carried out. Does anyone know who if Kellie Murphy is Sam's sister or daughter or sister in law?

 

[brjakj]

Some medical practices are open 24/7 here.
This is one in Ballarat

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This is definitely not 24/7. The one 24/7 medical practice we did have stopped doing overnights late last year/early this year.

There are on call drs but no medical practice 24/7.

 

[Awakening]

So the CCTV still of SM with the dog bag was taken before her run at 7am?

Sunrise in Ballarat on the Sunday was around 6.45am.

Does the cctv still look consistent with a time before 7am?

 

[DK007]

This is definitely not 24/7. The one 24/7 medical practice we did have stopped doing overnights late last year/early this year.

There are on call drs but no medical practice 24/7.

But some medical clinics or practices are open on Sundays

 

[BreakingNews]

In recent days 2 tobacco shops have been set alight in Ballarat. Is it possible she ran past a crew who were camped in the bush preparing for such an attack on the Sunday night and her presence on the Sunday morning foiled their plan by identifying their vehicle(s). They then disposed of her. It would make sense that any intending perpetrator of arson would enter a town well before the intended attack time to ensure not being easily identified. We now know that that area is not covered by cctv very much and would be the ideal staging post for intending tobacco shop arsonists. If this is the case then the arsonists committment to their plan was evidenced by the fact that the attacks have now been carried out. Does anyone know who if Kellie Murphy is Sam's sister or daughter or sister in law?

A lot of tobacco shops have been torched in Qld too. All due to the new vaping laws. I wouldn't read too much into it.

 

[SLouTh]

Paraphrased from a new article in the Herald Sun


Dozens of rumours swirl in Ballarat, from matrimonial distress to financial hardship, and an affair …

There has been talk of a recent suicide in the Murphy wider circle.

This one could be important to the case ????? - an AVO had been taken out on an extended family member.

And suggestions that a recent family holiday to Torquay had been “fragmented” .


Paywalled for some

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/where-to-now-as-search-for-samantha-murphy-enters-third-week/news-story/a489216b7df3c6a134dc1f73ad7779a7

 

[Deleted member 293720]

Police may have it, but it has not been made public.

There could be extra footage that police are not sharing, but there has been no footage released to the media showing her actually going jogging on the morning she has disappeared to confirm this.

She can be seen carrying, what looks to be a bag of dog poo in her yard of the morning she has disappeared

 

[KathPlumber]

Hi Minaka I agree I can’t see the harm in releasing it but I suspect it’s withheld to stop us sleuthers and the press speculating more than necessary. If all it shows is SM waking up her driveway what does it achieve for the Police by releasing it? I take their word that that’s what it shows, that is all we can do….

It occurred to me they would also have footage of SM picking up dog poop which we hopefully never see either.

It’s a “need to know” approach by our Police and aside from fueling our curiosity the Police must think there is no value in sharing it just for us and the press to comment on.

I was also thinking it was weird that they didn’t release it, but then I recalled that there was audio of Cleo Smith at the camp Site the night before she was taken and that was never released either, despite a lot of questions about it. The police just repeated that audio had confirmed she was there. I guess once it wasn’t in question (for them) there was nothing to gain from releasing it. Same with this, if they thought the public might have seen her I guess there might have been a case for releasing it in case there was any memory that it triggered etc but … as they don’t appear to think that random sightings of her are likely or useful…

 

[Deleted member 293720]

Paraphrased from a new article in the Herald Sun


Dozens of rumours swirl in Ballarat, from matrimonial distress to financial hardship, and an affair …

There has been talk of a recent suicide in the Murphy wider circle.

This one could be important to the case ????? - an AVO had been taken out on an extended family member.

And suggestions that a recent family holiday to Torquay had been “fragmented” .


Paywalled for some

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/where-to-now-as-search-for-samantha-murphy-enters-third-week/news-story/a489216b7df3c6a134dc1f73ad7779a7

Unfortunately, a pay wall

 

[SLouTh]

Unfortunately, a pay wall

That is why I had to paraphrase it ….