Australia Samantha Murphy, 51, last seen leaving her property to go for a run in the Canadian State Forest, Ballarat 100km NW of Melbourne, 4 Feb 2024 #2

[BreakingNews]

Investigation underway after two people found dead in Victoria

It is unclear if this is related or not although appears relatively close in south Ballarat to Sam's home.

Two bodies and police are not looking for anyone else. Sounds like a murder-suicide. RIP

 

[SouthAussie]

Investigation underway after two people found dead in Victoria

It is unclear if this is related or not although appears relatively close in south Ballarat to Sam's home.

Sounds like a murder/suicide, or double suicide, due to the wording.

"Police said they are not looking for anyone else in relation to the incident."

imo

 

[Lukey2121]

Two bodies and police are not looking for anyone else. Sounds like a murder-suicide. RIP

Another one. Government need to do an advertising campaign explaining to grown adults that seperation/ divorce happens. It’s should never be life ending just because you grow apart. Yes it hurts but life goes on!
Shameful when it’s grown adults that commit most of these crimes.
Country is always in uproar about youth crime and at times, it isn’t good, but the youth aren’t killing as many people as grown adults in domestic situations

 

[Witness 28]

I'm a brand new member and I hope this helps someone piece a little bit together. When anyone talks or writes about particular cell/mobile providers, if there's any signal whatsoever, all providers will pick up that ping. That's how you can make an emergency call even if you have no connection or plan with another provider. But all mobile providers are still collecting that ping.

Here are two cell tower maps from the Australian communications and media authority. From what I understand, the first police helicopter search at Union Jack Reserve is worth taking into consideration, as it is further south than where that first phone ping was reported. Perhaps a bit of triangulation between signals was already being performed.

fyi I've also posted a wide view of the area with all the other mobile/cell towers.

Edit: Given the sheer number of mobile/cell towers, they seemed pretty sure of the 'last seen' location to commence their first helicopter search. Unless of course there was other information provided.

Minaka brilliant work,with so many Towers nearby it just enforces the theory that maybe someone turned it on and turned it off the phone ,to make a ping, how come no other pings were picked up close to any other Tower next to her house along the journey very suspicious, because why would she have a phone off when jogging , seems like someone's planned this to the last detail and having no evidence of her in the forest that she was ever there.

 

[Witness 28]

I suppose if VICPOL thought it was a person from Ballarat, like.. say, Paul Denyer, someone who might take and disappear someone else, they would have locked down Ballarat, close off the freeway, and the north and south exits and entrances, and established a curfew, all men off the street from 5pm to 9am, something like this, all cars checked and divvied up, have armed personnel all around the perimeter.... close all the pubs and bars, bottle shops, etc.. clubs...all footy training and cricket training off, etc.... close the city down...

But this seems a very softly softly approach, nothing wrong with that, it often works, too..

After finding no evidence that she was ever in the forest except for that ping, the police know they're dealing with someone that is very smart, he has thought this out, they will be putting pressure on him to crack

 

[SouthAussie]

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Apparently half the mobile tower repeaters were out of action on the day that Sam disappeared.


Last week, Missing Persons Unit Superintendent Mark Hatt said police were still working to ascertain who may have been in the area where Ms Murphy's phone lost communication with mobile phone towers.

Her mobile phone had pinged in the nearby suburb of before going dark.

Allan claimed that task may have been made harder due to several phone towers in the area going offline.

'That day half the repeaters were out of action - everything was going through Buninyong,' he said.

Inside the frantic hours after Samantha Murphy went missing

The family of missing mother-of-three Samantha Murphy have revealed how her husband tried to find her on the morning she went missing.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[nightrider17]

Inside the frantic hours after Samantha Murphy went missing

The family of missing mother-of-three Samantha Murphy have revealed how her husband tried to find her on the morning she went missing.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The family of missing mother-of-three Samantha Murphy have revealed how her husband tried to find her on the morning she went missing.

Ms Murphy's uncle and aunt, Allan and Janice Robson, told Daily Mail Australia their niece's husband, Mick Murphy, made the call to police himself two hours after she failed to return home at 9am on February 4.

'She was reported missing at about 11am. Mick reported her missing. He said she was supposed to be back to go to some sort of meeting that morning,' Allan said.

'She wasn't home. Didn't go to it... he rang up and reported it and after that they started looking out the other side of Buninyong, which is 20-30km away.'

Not sure if this means MM went looking himself?? or he just alerted police at 11.00 am after she didn't come home at 9.00?? IMO

Wonder if MM did go looking at some point? MOO

 

[Witness 28]

I think Police should also be checking all ‘customers’ who brought cars in for smash repairs prior to and after SM’s disappearance. This type of industry is known to attract insurance frauds which could include shady customers and broader criminal activity. SM may have been ‘noticed’ at work or may have stumbled across something she shouldn’t have!

Maybe they should check the odometer of the cars as well to see no extra kilometers has been put on a car that would be very suspicious, from one of the Colombo movies

 

[borderline444]

I checked WeatherUnderground almanac for Feb 4, the day SM went missing. The low overnight was 55 degrees F/13 degrees C; it doesn't get up to 90 degrees F until 3 pm. At the start of her run at 7 am, the temps would only have been in the high 50s, low 60s F, so pleasantly cool.

If there was a water fountain/drinking fountain on SM's planned route, she'd not have needed to carry water.

we need to carry water.
if you dont carry water in Australia, you die.

 

[Deleted member 293720]

I’m aware & agree with your comments Nifty.

My point was that SM told friends & Mick that she was going for a 14 km run the next morning - yet Uncle said she did 10 km .

How did Uncle know she did 10 km ?

 

[Eloise]

we need to carry water.
if you dont carry water in Australia, you die.

it wasn't that hot that morning

that's a bit overdramatic imo, both my partner and I go for walks and never take water with us

he goes for runs and doesn't take water either, its an encumbrance and when you plan to be home you know you can just get water then

plus if something happened and you weren't going to get home after all, and you've got an apple watch (as we both do and SM also did) its got apple wallet and you could buy a drink while you were out

 

[Dr Samoht]

I'm curious about areas included in CCTV requests. Eureka St and driveway suggest this part of the road. I put red dots at all the places where I would want CCTV.

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Google Maps

What about one going north out of her lane exit ?

 

[Witness 28]

I think there will ( naturally) have been a lot of discussion between family members as time has gone by since her disappearance. Everyone will be wracking their brains & trying to come up with ideas etc - and no doubt in the midst of that Aunt & Uncle became aware that SM had a planned meeting at 10am.

In an article in The Daily Mail ,Mr Murphy said she had an appointment ? and that she was supposed to be home by nine and he waited two hours to report a missing at 11 o'clock when they were supposed to have brunch with family members, if there's no evidence that this appointment anywhere in Ballarat and no family member knows of information and no information in her diary of an appointment, of this appointment, maybe the appointment was a russ to get her out of the house, did someone drive her to this appointment did she walked to the appointment, maybe if there is no such thing as an appointment booking anywhere, maybe it's a filler

 

[Notascreenname]

it wasn't that hot that morning

that's a bit overdramatic imo, both my partner and I go for walks and never take water with us

he goes for runs and doesn't take water either, its an encumbrance and when you plan to be home you know you can just get water then

plus if something happened and you weren't going to get home after all, and you've got an apple watch (as we both do and SM also did) its got apple wallet and you could buy a drink while you were out

Yep it was only 13 degrees Celsius at 7am and reached 24 degrees by 11am. I posted the actual weather for 4th February during the week.

 

[KathPlumber]

Sebas is a pretty low socioeconomic area, would be a prime area for a lot of deaths associated with increased risk due to poverty (such as suicide).
ETA IMO

 

[DK007]

In an article in The Daily Mail ,Mr Murphy said she had an appointment ? and that she was supposed to be home by nine and he waited two hours to report a missing at 11 o'clock when they were supposed to have brunch with family members, if there's no evidence that this appointment anywhere in Ballarat and no family member knows of information and no information in her diary of an appointment, of this appointment, maybe the appointment was a russ to get her out of the house, did someone drive her to this appointment did she walked to the appointment, maybe if there is no such thing as an appointment booking anywhere, maybe it's a filler

SM aunt, uncle and MM knew about the 10am appointment

 

[whitelilac]

Investigation underway after two people found dead in Victoria

It is unclear if this is related or not although appears relatively close in south Ballarat to Sam's home.

Unless the individuals have been positively identified, I might wonder if Samantha had any connection to Sebastopol.
Or whether there's any connection to the car business she and Mick were conducting. Client, acquaintance etc.
The location is awfully close, in distance and time frame.
You never know.

 

[Dotta]

Unless the individuals have been positively identified, I might wonder if Samantha had any connection to Sebastopol.
Or whether there's any connection to the car business she and Mick were conducting. Client, acquaintance etc.
The location is awfully close, in distance and time frame.
You never know.

Sebastopol as Russian Sevastopol?
(Well, it is actually in Ukraine, but the city still belongs to Russia)
Do Russian immigrants live there?

 

[Deleted member 293720]

We still haven't been told on the day Sunday 4th February, where Samantha disappeared, from around 7am, who was home with her ? Have other family members who are living in the house have their alibi checked, CCTV cameras at businesses checked to see if they were at work or somewhere else they say ? Etc. None of her family have come forward in media conversations mentioning this etc, and this hasn't been brought up by journalists that I have heard.

This is such Crucial Information as this was the day she disappeared. If police didn't think that there is more to this story, we would have been told all of this in the beginning.

 

[Dr Samoht]

The tv footage of that shot of MM seated in a deep blue Ford Ranger Raptor shows a rear number plate ‘INLAND’.
Also of interest was the unusual small hole in the driver side rear passenger door .