GUILTY SC - Christine Parcell 41, fatally stabbed by concert pianist, Greenville, 13 Oct 2021 *Arrest*

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What a hot mess rollercoaster of a case.
If the CSAM is true (and it appears that it is), I have no sympathy for any of the adults involved.
There are no heroes here, nobody wins. They all broke the law in one way or another, IMO.
I hope that the daughter is in a good place, physically, mentally and emotionally.
 
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@IndyJenn_


We have a question from the jury.

"Define malice. Is malice required for a murder charge?"

Judge Fant would like to send the charge back to the jury. He tells the defense he cannot send just the portion of the charge back that contains malice. The defense is discussing. The judge tells them to take their time.


Moorman would like the judge to bring the jury back in as a group and give them the charge on malice. The judge says he would charge them on the murder charge which contains the section on malice. He cannot read just the language on malice.



The defense appears very excited by this question.

 
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Question:
I have only followed here and there.
Can the jury come back with a lesser charge, manslaughter or 2nd degree, or is it a deliberation on 1st degree only?
 
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Oh my word. If not malice, that's a whole heck of a lot of (righteous?!?!) energy to stab and slash over 30 times /s. If no conviction, what a precedent. All IMO.
 
  • #548
I'm surprised this is the first I've heard of this case. What a fiasco.
 
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I don't like the vibes... I hope they find him guilty, he killed her.
 
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I don't like the vibes... I hope they find him guilty, he killed her.
with premeditation, with his admission, and with >30 stab wounds.
A NG would be one heck of a precedent.
 
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Just read his testimony from yesterday and he is nothing more than a cold-blooded heartless killer. He did it for the money only. imo

My vote is Guilty!

I believe the jurors will get it right, using common sense.

 
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with premeditation, with his admission, and with >30 stab wounds.
A NG would be one heck of a precedent.

And a very bad precedent.
All this talk about about malice, like somehow ZH didn’t have malice while plotting and carrying out this murder.
I have bad feeling about this too. Poorly presented case by the prosecution and a judge with the backbone of a jellyfish. Too bad the attorney general’s office didn’t take this case over like Murdaugh’s.
 
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Second jury question:
The judge has reentered the courtroom for a second question from the jury. The jury asks: Can you explain the difference between first degree harassment and second degree harassment?



Jury reenters the courtroom:
The jury has been seated. The judge is now explaining the difference between first degree harassment and second degree harassment to the jury.
 
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Jury exits courtroom:
The jury has exited the courtroom after hearing the judge's answer. Neither the state or defense had anything to add. Deliberation continues.

 
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I can't imagine having the thought in my mind that you might be able to break into someone's home and stab them to death without malice. JMO.
 
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Just read his testimony from yesterday and he is nothing more than a cold-blooded heartless killer. He did it for the money only. imo

My vote is Guilty!

I believe the jurors will get it right, using common sense.


I’m with you!
His testimony was very disturbing I thought.
After hearing him describe the murder my first thought was this guy is everything he accused his adopted sister of being. He’s wanted to do this type of thing for a long time but managed to control it. Mello’s situation presented his opportunity.
Lucky for us, they arrested him, because I think he would have done it again. And again. And again.
Frightening to think he might be back on the street.
 
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I don't know what we can believe.

Firstly, Hughes has been sitting in jail for years, preparing for this, rehearsing what he will say. It is, of course, the most important performance of his life.

I don't believe that a concert pianist gets on stage and just spontaneously, genuinely, expresses the music, that he just that moment remembers the tune and taps it out on the keys. Every detail of the performance has been practiced and polished (usually with a coach) and rehearsed hundreds of times.

The other problem is, he and the defense know perfectly well that authorities are not going to challenge his claims about CP.

They are not going to submit evidence to prove he is lying.

Firstly, because it has nothing to do with the case. Motive doesn't matter to whether he is guilty or not.

Secondly, because it is highly illegal for authorities to discuss in public the names of anyone - but especially minors - who are or aren't victims of any sort of abuse.

Hughes' defense lawyers know this. So they have instructed him to lay it on with a trowel.

We know that Hughes and Mello were, in the months before the murder, widely distributing pornographic photos of Christine to allege she was a prostitute. That was their obsession. (IMO the photos were ones Mello himself had taken).

They even sent those photos to Bradley Post! If they believe Post and Christine were making CP, why would they send nude photos of Christine to him, alleging she was an escort? Is that the behaviour of people who believe Post was making *advertiser censored* himself?

I think Mello has successfully waged a campaign of disinformation based on what he heard in the media after the murder.

And what Hughes really wants, IMO, is that his family and the public not see that he did it for money, probably while he was seriously addicted to drugs.

JMO

What evidence is there that ZH was using / addicted to drugs? Have I missed something?
Also do we know if he ever took or received the money offered?

Not disputing you, just am missing this info.
 

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