SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #9

[hockeymom4]

Has TE or LE commented on her phone activity before or during her date?

It has been discussed, but not officially, so it can't be discussed here, as far as I know.

 

[Aeronomy]

I think they dont want that person to get rid of evidence or create an albi. Also they might still be investigating that person. Truthfully I agree with you but I am sure Le has their reasons.

I see your point, but at the same time I think the true culprit would already have an alibi and covered their tracks the best they could. It's been over a month.

 

[MadamReporter]

Has TE or LE commented on her phone activity before or during her date?

I think the only thing we are allowed to say for sure is that she sent her dad a pic of herself during her date saying that she learned to drive stick.

 

[NotSoGrumpy]

Re; phone being off...what if someone who she wanted to "walk away from" was repeatedly calling her, or maybe someone close to that person was...maybe she would turn it off to stop that...at least for the time being.

Being attached to her phone, she could easily block a harrasser. I simply text the word BLOCK and the telephone number to a number provided by my service provider (which I just google) and it prevents that number from calling or texting me...or me it. But I don't know if younger kids know you can do this. It is easily discovered if you google "block a number on my phone" and similar searches.

Thank you for all the welcomes!

 

[jkloc420]

Will what we do know is that phone should have been pinging until at least 3 41 am. This means it was on.

 

[FlyerFan28]

Seems like knowing who she communicated with during and before would be helpful.

 

[lstiff]

Questions, I hope this allowed. Have they ever said if it was possible for her to have runway, end her life etc or was foul play the only option explored? I don't necessarily think it would change the investigation other than there wouldn't be a poI, but in my area this happens so often. I was late to this case. I hope this isn't out of line.

I personally have not ruled this out. There is a small chance that she left on her own ONLY b/c it hasn't been proven otherwise. Nothing much has been proven in fact. I see HE as a "free spirit" and also 20 years old. I don't think it is too far fetched that she would have left on her own BUT I don't think given the close contact she had with her family (esp sending TE a text about driving a stick, something they had tried together) that she just up and left without contacting them ever again. JMO of course. No I don't think it is a crazy idea but more than likely she feel victim to foul play (per her father's comments, some other info that some people know that is not allowed to be posted here yet & the overall feeling of this case) IMO

 

[Motherof5]

The mysterious 3:41 communication after she talked to her roommate had to have been an outgoing call (not text) from HE to unnamed entity; otherwise, how would LE even know it happened? They don't have her phone, so they are getting info from her phone records. If unnamed entity called or texted her, it wouldn't show who the text was from, just that a text came in. If she simply texted unnamed entity, unnamed entity could say they were sleeping and didn't get any texts until the next morning. But if it was a phone call from HE for at least 2 minutes, they would know who she called and that there was someone on the other end who she actually talked to.

Which leads to my next thought. She seems like a girl that treated her phone like an appendage. If you look at the stick-shift driving pic, she won't even part with the phone while she's learning to drive, it's right in her lap. After she talks
to unnamed entity and leaves her house, her phone goes dead.

Thank you for the text/call info. I was wondering how all of that worked. I'm confused about your last sentence. HE's phone didn't go dead after the 3:41 communication. Did I misunderstand what you were trying to say? I've been known to do that.

 

[hockeymom4]

I think they dont want that person to get rid of evidence or create an albi. Also they might still be investigating that person. Truthfully I agree with you but I am sure Le has their reasons.

Yes. What I was trying to say was what if they didn't know for sure at the time who she spoke to because there was no evidence. What if she drove around for an hour talking and pinging? I don't know this, just saying. She could have seen people. All the call history and pinging can help the investigation. The comment won't "admit" among other things, makes me think this. If someone called from a cell or landline, you don't need them to admit anything...IMO. You just bring them in and question them. Where I live, a lot of people have burner phones....not people I know. Maybe it was that or from another untraceable source. It is an odd statement to say the least. Regardless, for all we know they know who they last person to talk to her was now and it didn't matter. If it were my child, I would want the police to have that info released in hopes someone saw her.

 

[Aeronomy]

I'm still trying to understand the family dynamics in this case.

 

[JnRyan]

In the Alexis Murphy case, didn't they use dogs that were specifically trained to sniff out cell phones? Something about being trained for use in prisons/jails to find inmates with cell phones? I would love to hear if the HCPD would reach out to a resource like this and have those dogs search PTL and the surrounding areas.

I had forgotten about this. I had never heard of such before then. They found not Alexis' phone, but one or two others right near where Randy Taylor lived. Of course, they found Alexis' hair/DNA in his trailer as well.

That would be an excellent idea here.

 

[jkloc420]

Yes. What I was trying to say was what if they didn't know for sure at the time who she spoke to because there was no evidence. What if she drove around for an hour talking and pinging? I don't know this, just saying. She could have seen people. All the call history and pinging can help the investigation. The comment won't "admit" among other things, makes me think this. If someone called from a cell or landline, you don't need them to admit anything...IMO. You just bring them in and question them. Where I live, a lot of people have burner phones....not people I know. Maybe it was that or from another untraceable source. It is an odd statement to say the least. Regardless, for all we know they know who they last person to talk to her was now and it didn't matter. If it were my child, I would want the police to have that info released in hopes someone saw her.

I mentioned the untraceable source a few threads back. A poster said that payphones are still around down there. So yes I agree a bummer phone could have been used to draw her wherever the perp wanted her to go. I don't agree with the LE's tatics in this case either but I can't second guess them just because I don't agree. Sometimes I think they don't release info because they don't want people to take things into their own hands.

 

[MadamReporter]

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Thank you for the text/call info. I was wondering how all of that worked. I'm confused about your last sentence. HE's phone didn't go dead after the 3:41 communication. Did I misunderstand what you were trying to say? I've been known to do that.

I've read the last ping was at 3:41 and I've read the last communication was at 3:41. Maybe it's just semantics. Perhaps I should have worded it to say radio silence after 3:41.

This case has an extra layer of difficulty to it because we all have read things that we have to now pretend we haven't read, so it's difficult to phrase things accordingly.

 

[jkloc420]

I've read the last ping was at 3:41 and I've read the last communication was at 3:41. Maybe it's just semantics. Perhaps I should have worded it to say radio silence after 3:41.

This case has an extra layer of difficulty to it because we all have read things that we have to now pretend we haven't read, so it's difficult to phrase things accordingly.

This is what is confusing to me because to me it sounds like the person responsible had the car the whole day. Maybe even HE went over to stay at someone's house. Just from the way they said the car was found someone would have at least seen it Wednesday if it was parked that way at a boat ramp.

 

[cluciano63]

I think that if someone accessed her SM and tried to make it look like she was depressed,they would have made the sure the posts were explicit in their depression and also made sure her body was found and made to look like a suicide.

I felt like posts long before the last night showed some depression, in any event.

What were the last posts? Can they be posted? I cannot see Tumblr from Ipad.

 

[Aeronomy]

Sometimes I think they don't release info because they don't want people to take things into their own hands.

Which leads me to wonder...if that were the case and it appears things are getting out of hand, whereas someone may take things into their own hands...then what?

 

[jkloc420]

Which leads me to wonder...if that were the case and it appears things are getting out of hand, whereas someone may take things into their own hands...then what?

The question is would anybody stop them. If someone harms one of your family members and you have really strong evidence it would be hard to stop someone.

 

[Aeronomy]

Sorry. Deleting due to double posting. Clearly tapatalk and myself are having communication problems.

 

[MadamReporter]

Which leads me to wonder...if that were the case and it appears things are getting out of hand, whereas someone may take things into their own hands...then what?

Then justice served

 

[CarolinaAsh]

I think that if someone accessed her SM and tried to make it look like she was depressed,they would have made the sure the posts were explicit in their depression and also made sure her body was found and made to look like a suicide.

I felt like posts long before the last night showed some depression, in any event.

What were the last posts? Can they be posted? I cannot see Tumblr from Ipad.

Unless they COULDN'T make it look that way... :waitasec:

IIRC the posts were picture quotes, not sure if that's allowed on here.

ETA: I see a lot of peeps on here I am beginning to recognize so I say hi peeps! But I also took a medicine for my not feeling good. It has kicked in and if I don't go lay down my next post will be made by my forehead. So keep calm and stay sleuths!