SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #10

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@CarefullyTaught

Thank you so much for your knowledge on a subject that I have none, you make it easier for me to read and understand.
 
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Apologies in advance if folks have already well trod this ground:

While possible in theory, I seriously doubt CES was the trigger man or the bag man with ref to the hits on MM &/or PM.

Although CES might have had the advantage of blending in if he’d done odd jobs (sounds like mostly handyman type work) for locals in the past, CES seems much smarter than AM and imo would never have agreed to any of that.

After all, CES by his own admission and by what’s suggested by the evidence of the “assisted suicide,” refused to kill somebody who allegedly requested to be killed by AM. Why would someone who refused to shoot someone who asked to be killed (& some might hypothesize suicide a person who really was “asking for it” or “had it coming to him” in more ways than one, given how many innocents he’d swindled etc) — why would CES refuse/reject that invitation, yet agree to the MM hit (on a local mom, a distant cousin-in-law, using an assault rifle, and whom he reportedly shot multiple times in the back) an addition to the possible collateral murder of her son at close range with a shotgun? CES had no dog in the boat accident so far as we know; no history of violence as others had pointed out; and seems to have some mobility impairments and a very identifiable gait presumably from a prior workplace injury.
My guess is that CES had for sure an ironclad alibi for the night of the double homicide or likely he would already have been charged with it and not made bond not voluntarily spoken to law enforcement without his lawyer (even if a public defender) present, and he sure wouldn’t have agreed to the warrant less search of his home and property. CES reportedly agreed to this because he had “nothing to hide,” and despite a presumably thorough search of the property that was not limited by CES or scope of warrantless search narrowed by CES, all that turned up as I recall was some small amount of meth and MJ, not the kind of amounts that suggested dealer or any evidence of him being a killer — contract or otherwise.

Meanwhile, the search of Moselle turned up information that led SLED to reopen the Stephen Smith death investigation and may have uncovered evidence of other kinds.

Just saying.

IMO/MOO


I’ve often played around with the idea that Alex laid in wait for Maggie, killed her, then took her phone & murder weapon & headed to his mother’s to establish his alibi…leaving someone behind to clean up. And that person unexpectedly encountered Paul.

Maybe the GJ payment is more about Eddie and the $200,000 payment than it is Alex.

MOO
 
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I meant to say GJ investigation, not payment. Too late for me to edit the original post.
 
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I meant to say GJ investigation, not payment. Too late for me to edit the original post.


I have tried and tried to figure out what you meant, thought surely I have missed something.

Thanks for clarifying @MerryB
 
  • #926
Pretty sure Harpoot said Alex's rehab was covered by insurance, so not sure about that $15K load from his brother
At least around Mid-Atlantic, 30-days rehab at highly reputable facility is a lot more than $15k and they recommend 90 days for opioid rehab. There is also possibility health insurance only paying 60-80% of cost. So RM’s 15k is realistic contribution to rehab fees.
 
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I’ve often played around with the idea that Alex laid in wait for Maggie, killed her, then took her phone & murder weapon & headed to his mother’s to establish his alibi…leaving someone behind to clean up. And that person unexpectedly encountered Paul.

Maybe the GJ payment is more about Eddie and the $200,000 payment than it is Alex.

MOO

I’ve tried so hard to think of how this act came to begin. Did somebody drive up? Park nearby and walk thru woods? Wait and ambush? IF, and I’m not thinking it so, AM did this, I would expect it to be the result of a dispute.
This and the Does case over in Sumter makes for a lot of stress in my life.
 
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The same rumors also ran rampant about the elder Boulware, a peer of former S.C. fourteenth circuit solicitor Randolph “Buster” Murdaugh Jr. In fact, the elder Boulware’s father – a lawyer named Thomas McCullough Boulware – tried cases with Murdaugh in the late 1940s.

These drug-running rumors were not randomly pulled out of the thick, humid Lowcountry air, either.

The possibility the Boulwares were engaged in something other than fishing on their maritime voyages first hit the public consciousness more than forty years ago when a 95-foot U.S. Coast Guard cutter called the Cape Knox was patrolling the St. Helena Sound off the South Carolina coast on the evening of Thursday, January 24, 1980.

In between the 1980 sinking incident and the Operation Cancer arrests, the long arm of the law did reach out and touch the Boulwares, though. On February 5, 1983, the Ute – a 205-foot USCG cutter – encountered the Jeannine Ann, another “shrimper” owned by Boulware, while on patrol in the Bahamas. A total of 854 bales of marijuana were discovered aboard the vessel at the time it was boarded. Authorities allowed the vessel to proceed to its destination – Beaufort, S.C. – where numerous arrests were made among those co-conspirators awaiting its arrival.

According to an article (.jpg) from The Associated Press published in the February 15, 1983 print edition of The (Columbia, S.C.) Record, Barrett Boulware the elder was among those who turned himself into authorities in connection with this sting – but both he and his son, who was 27 years old at the time, wound up facing charges in its aftermath.

According to an April 18, 1983 news brief (.jpg) in The Tallahassee Democrat, Branch was “making his way to the Wonder Bar in St. Joe Beach” when he “walked into the path of an oncoming vehicle.”

“Branch was one of nine people arrested in February when authorities seized about 17 tons of marijuana from a shrimp boat in Beaufort, S.C.,” the Florida paper noted.

A Florida trooper noted Branch was “scheduled to testify in a drug trial” at the time of his death.

Without his testimony, the feds were forced to abandon the case they were pursuing against the Boulwares. And according to a June 3, 1983 news brief (.jpg) published in The (Columbia, S.C.) State newspaper, charges against both Boulwares were dropped by the U.S. attorney’s office.



Murdaugh Murders Saga: Alex Murdaugh’s Ties To Alleged Drug Smuggler Uncovered

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https://www.fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/The_State_Sat__Jan_26__1980_-scaled.jpeg


Property owned by murdaugh/boulware

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The connection the two families had went back generations.

Jmo

Why didn’t AM sell property for money?
 
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Just FYI: this very minute I’m driving through Lowcountry — and just passed Exit 53 off I95 for Hampton / Varneville.

Totally irrational, but I’m feeling creepy in the same way I did at student center on campus of USC a few days back. When DH stopped for gas in Walterboro, actually thought about safety — cowboys and all.
 
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Just FYI: this very minute I’m driving through Lowcountry — and just passed Exit 53 off I95 for Hampton / Varneville.

Totally irrational, but I’m feeling creepy in the same way I did at student center on campus of USC a few days back. When DH stopped for gas in Walterboro, actually thought about safety — cowboys and all.


There is also the Wildboys.

Fourteenth Circuit Solicitor's Office

According to admissions made in connection with his plea, Manigo was an associate in the Wildboys, a violent criminal street gang based in South Carolina, with members operating in various South Carolina cities, including Summerville and Walterboro. The defendant further admitted that Wildboys members and associates have committed a wide range of racketeering activity, including assault with dangerous weapons, murder, robbery and narcotics trafficking.
 
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Sandy Smith Says She Was Blindsided By Her Attorney’s TV Interview About Her Son’s Death

Sandy Smith told FITSNews she was not advised by her attorney Andy Savage before he made a bombshell claim in the media that the potential Murdaugh connections to Stephen Smith’s 2015 death “may be unfounded.”

The grieving mother — who hasn’t stopped fighting for justice in her son’s unsolved death — said her attorney’s interview felt like yet another slap in the face. Only this time, it came from her own attorney — who was supposed to be on her side.

Smith is now questioning Savage’s intentions in representing her after the interview. She said that Savage’s private investigator Steven Peterson told her two weeks ago he believed they had a suspect in the case and he didn’t think the Murdaughs were connected, but he said he didn’t want to say anything until he knew for sure.

Sandy Smith was clear — she wasn’t mad about the conclusion that Savage and Peterson reached in the investigation to apparently absolve the Murdaughs (well, Savage specifically stated that his comments were about Paul Murdaugh, but didn’t add much clarity).

Just days before SLED officials made the announcement, a SLED agent asked to interview Sandy in connection to the double homicide of Maggie and Paul Murdaugh. She was devastated to hear the news that she and her family were being viewed as possible persons of interest in the savage slayings — when at the time, SLED hadn’t taken any time to investigate Stephen’s case.

Sandy told FITSNews that she is prepared to go at this fight alone now that someone else broke her trust.

“I’m going to try to take care of this myself because I don’t know who to trust now,” Sandy told FITSNews.

Savage did not respond to FITSNews’ request for comment.
 
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The same rumors also ran rampant about the elder Boulware, a peer of former S.C. fourteenth circuit solicitor Randolph “Buster” Murdaugh Jr. In fact, the elder Boulware’s father – a lawyer named Thomas McCullough Boulware – tried cases with Murdaugh in the late 1940s.

These drug-running rumors were not randomly pulled out of the thick, humid Lowcountry air, either.

The possibility the Boulwares were engaged in something other than fishing on their maritime voyages first hit the public consciousness more than forty years ago when a 95-foot U.S. Coast Guard cutter called the Cape Knox was patrolling the St. Helena Sound off the South Carolina coast on the evening of Thursday, January 24, 1980.

In between the 1980 sinking incident and the Operation Cancer arrests, the long arm of the law did reach out and touch the Boulwares, though. On February 5, 1983, the Ute – a 205-foot USCG cutter – encountered the Jeannine Ann, another “shrimper” owned by Boulware, while on patrol in the Bahamas. A total of 854 bales of marijuana were discovered aboard the vessel at the time it was boarded. Authorities allowed the vessel to proceed to its destination – Beaufort, S.C. – where numerous arrests were made among those co-conspirators awaiting its arrival.

According to an article (.jpg) from The Associated Press published in the February 15, 1983 print edition of The (Columbia, S.C.) Record, Barrett Boulware the elder was among those who turned himself into authorities in connection with this sting – but both he and his son, who was 27 years old at the time, wound up facing charges in its aftermath.

According to an April 18, 1983 news brief (.jpg) in The Tallahassee Democrat, Branch was “making his way to the Wonder Bar in St. Joe Beach” when he “walked into the path of an oncoming vehicle.”

“Branch was one of nine people arrested in February when authorities seized about 17 tons of marijuana from a shrimp boat in Beaufort, S.C.,” the Florida paper noted.

A Florida trooper noted Branch was “scheduled to testify in a drug trial” at the time of his death.

Without his testimony, the feds were forced to abandon the case they were pursuing against the Boulwares. And according to a June 3, 1983 news brief (.jpg) published in The (Columbia, S.C.) State newspaper, charges against both Boulwares were dropped by the U.S. attorney’s office.



Murdaugh Murders Saga: Alex Murdaugh’s Ties To Alleged Drug Smuggler Uncovered

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https://www.fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/The_State_Sat__Jan_26__1980_-scaled.jpeg


Property owned by murdaugh/boulware

...

The connection the two families had went back generations.

Jmo

Why didn’t AM sell property for money?

This is soooo interesting. It is so helpful when folks do write out information in the fits. articles...
Behind a paywall.
But they do get the goods, don't they?
 
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Sandy Smith Says She Was Blindsided By Her Attorney’s TV Interview About Her Son’s Death

Sandy Smith told FITSNews she was not advised by her attorney Andy Savage before he made a bombshell claim in the media that the potential Murdaugh connections to Stephen Smith’s 2015 death “may be unfounded.”

The grieving mother — who hasn’t stopped fighting for justice in her son’s unsolved death — said her attorney’s interview felt like yet another slap in the face. Only this time, it came from her own attorney — who was supposed to be on her side.

Smith is now questioning Savage’s intentions in representing her after the interview. She said that Savage’s private investigator Steven Peterson told her two weeks ago he believed they had a suspect in the case and he didn’t think the Murdaughs were connected, but he said he didn’t want to say anything until he knew for sure.

Sandy Smith was clear — she wasn’t mad about the conclusion that Savage and Peterson reached in the investigation to apparently absolve the Murdaughs (well, Savage specifically stated that his comments were about Paul Murdaugh, but didn’t add much clarity).

Just days before SLED officials made the announcement, a SLED agent asked to interview Sandy in connection to the double homicide of Maggie and Paul Murdaugh. She was devastated to hear the news that she and her family were being viewed as possible persons of interest in the savage slayings — when at the time, SLED hadn’t taken any time to investigate Stephen’s case.

Sandy told FITSNews that she is prepared to go at this fight alone now that someone else broke her trust.

“I’m going to try to take care of this myself because I don’t know who to trust now,” Sandy told FITSNews.

Savage did not respond to FITSNews’ request for comment.
I wonder if Eric Bland could recommend an attorney to Sandy? Hope someone suggests that to her or she thinks of asking him herself.
 
  • #934
Looks like the Murdaughs are making sure the money/assets goes to the family before Alex has to pay others.

“This would essentially prioritize Alex’s debt to Randy ahead of a long line of alleged victims currently suing the man whose wife and son were [URL='https://www.fitsnews.com/2021/06/09/law-enforcement-sources-alex-murdaugh-person-of-interest-in-south-carolina-double-homicide-investigation/']murdered
in June.

Alex Murdaugh is currently facing at least six lawsuits — two for both the 2019 boat crash that killed Mallory Beach, two for millions of dollars misappropriated/ stolen funds dating back to 2015 and two for unpaid debt. Murdaugh has only confessed judgement in Randy Murdaugh’s case, according to online court records.

A judgement typically comes in the form of a jury verdict or lawsuit settlement. However, in this case, Alex skipped the court process and agreed to the amount of debt owed. The “confession of judgement” allows the plaintiff to collect money — if it holds up in court.

So was Randy Murdaugh’s lawsuit just a masked asset transfer?

The “confession of judgement” was signed just hours after attorney Mark Tinsley, who is representing the Beach family, presented his arguments for a temporary injunction over Alex Murdaugh’s assets and to appoint two outside parties — attorney John T. Lay Jr. and former U.S. attorney Peter M. McCoy Jr. — to have control over Alex and Buster Murdaugh’s assets, which is known as “receivership” in court.”


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https://www.fitsnews.com/2021/11/04/sham-lawsuit-alex-murdaugh-confesses-judgement-soon-after-brother-sued-him-for-90k-debt/?fbclid=IwAR2zaoR84KAKT9-OhQAtyGdsea-HJzU6vIhEEhfnNY8lKLPidMO8eZJKXgE
 
  • #935
Two new podcasts dropped late last night (west coast): Mandy & Matt Harris).
You all for an amazing group of sleuthers! Thank you.
 
  • #936
Breaking: Court filings show a Hampton County grand jury indicted Alex Murdaugh and the man accused of shooting him in the head in an alleged $10 million life insurance suicide scheme.
Our story:https://www.islandpacket.com/news/local/crime/article255548746.html

A grand jury indictment signals the S.C. Attorney General’s Office feels comfortable to take the case to trial eventually and elevates the seriousness of the cases Murdaugh and Smith are facing.

https://twitter.com/jake4shore/status/1456334600985272329?s=21
 
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Thanks @sds71

The filings on the Hampton County court website show that both Murdaugh and Smith have been indicted on charges of presenting false claims for insurance payment, valued at $10,000 or more.

Grand jury indicts Alex Murdaugh, Curtis Smith for failed attempted suicide scheme | WCBD News 2

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???
What is this.?

The wording “presenting false claims for insurance payment” makes it sound like a claim was actually submitted. That can’t be correct, right?
 
  • #940
The wording “presenting false claims for insurance payment” makes it sound like a claim was actually submitted. That can’t be correct, right?


Could be something we are not aware of.
 
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