SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #11

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  • #261
It’s well worth the $8!

“Murdaugh, 53, faces 27 new charges in five indictments handed down by the South Carolina State Grand Jury this week.

The new indictments include:

  • seven counts of money laundering
  • seven counts of obtaining signature or property by false pretenses
  • eight counts of computer crimes
  • one count of forgery
  • four counts of breach of trust with fraudulent intent.
The indictments involve alleged crimes from five South Carolina counties — Bamberg, Orangeburg, Beaufort, Colleton and Allendale. Alex Murdaugh stands accused of defrauding victims and laundering of nearly $5 million.”

I am sure it is worth it... but I've bought some subscriptions in some cases.... ... it does add up! ha ha!
 
  • #262
So much money missing! (And more to come by the sounds of it)

I'll be interested to hear what Bland means by "satisfying his own wants and needs". (Personally, I can only think of a raging gambling addiction consuming so much money )

I know many think that there is lots of money hidden away, but I'm not so sure. There seems a growing sense of chaos, and of recklessness. Not a controlled salting away in untraceable bank accounts.

AM's financial crimes are sociopathically awful. For this reason, I will not be surprised if we hear he is behind the murders.

I agree. Gambling debts only get bigger and bigger when not paid.......... I don't think he has any money stashed away... its been going out the door for a long time.
Face it, even his debtors probably wanted MM gone.... to free up more money. Or so they thought.
 
  • #263
South Carolina Attorney General Alan Wilson announced today that South Carolina State Grand Jury issued five indictments, totaling 27 counts, against suspended attorney Richard Alexander Murdaugh. These indictments charge Murdaugh with four counts of Breach of Trust with Fraudulent Intent; seven counts of Obtaining Signature or Property by False Pretenses; seven counts of Money Laundering; eight counts of Computer Crimes; and one count of Forgery.…

Attorney General Wilson stressed that all defendants are presumed innocent unless and until they are proven guilty in a court of law.

You can read the indictments here, here, here, here, and here.
At this point it’s going to take jurors hours just to state their verdicts out loud in court. It’s mind-numbing to imagine the mounds of evidence they’ll have to sort through to get there. By the end of deliberations I expect each juror to be glaring openly at AM when they reenter the courtroom. As well they should.
 
  • #264
After staff at his law firm started asking questions about the missing money in July, Alex Murdaugh allegedly told the attorney he needed to return the $792,000 to him so it could be given to PMPED, the indictment states.

New indictments allege Alex Murdaugh conned clients, former law firm

...

About a month after murders they questioned him about missing money, roughly 2 months later they parted ways with him.

Jmo
 
  • #265
Do we know who the beneficiaries are on MM's and PM's life insurance policies? Could it be that he needed the payout from MM's policy and PM happened to be an additional casualty but an additional payout? Is that what AM meant when he indicated that PM wasn't supposed to be there?
AM tried a similarly dumb scheme in his "assisted suicide" scheme. MOO MOO MOO MOO MOO
 
  • #266
Do we know who the beneficiaries are on MM's and PM's life insurance policies? Could it be that he needed the payout from MM's policy and PM happened to be an additional casualty but an additional payout? Is that what AM meant when he indicated that PM wasn't supposed to be there?
AM tried a similarly dumb scheme in his "assisted suicide" scheme. MOO MOO MOO MOO MOO
I'm not convinced that's what he said, and I think people hear different things during that portion of the call.

When someone mentioned the "not supposed to be here" line, that's what I heard too.

I think that's just the way our brains work when someone tells you to listen for something specific though.

Each victim was shot with a different weapon, so I do in fact believe (it's very likely) that both were supposed to die.
 
  • #267
while it's true i have read about stranger drug connections than eddie and someone in the cowboys, i don't think eddie rolls that way. i see eddie as someone who would pay other people to go to doctors and get legit scripts and then pay the patients for their legit meds. one reason i say this is because if alex was using cowboy drugs excessively he probably would be dead by now. gang pills are highly suspect and he's too stupid to have a zip lock bag of oxy tested. all this in my opinion of course. so eddie probably created a small army of patients so he knew the meds were coming from a legit pharmacy. eddie is such a nice guy he might have given some of the patients a ride to the dr. office and then over to the pharmacy. again, my opinion only. but i've been wrong about so many suspected perps in other cases that if it turns out eddie is tight with one of the cowboy bosses it won't surprise me that much but i'd be shocked. for all i know eddie is a lieutenant in the cowboys. but i think if he was then he would have killed alex. MOO.
 
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Although there is not a lot of new information in this article, I keep seeing this mugshot of AM and for the life of me I cannot see 20 years of drug use at the level that the missing money suggests. I have seen mug shots of men and women much younger than him which means they haven't been using as long and they have sunken eyes and blotchy skin and hollow cheeks and they look sick and worn down. How can he look so healthy ? I don't buy it !
 
  • #270
I have felt that MM wanted the Beach lawsuit over with and because AM would not supply their financial records to settle that’s when MM asked for the audit at the firm. Having been in mediation on the 4th and suppose to go back the 10th with financial records that were supposed to have been there the 4th. Did MM go in the home and find paperwork? Find banking records? IDK where did AM leave the checks or drop off, maybe he mailed checks for thousands. IDK

Did MM find out and AM told someone she was going to authority’s and tell.

Jmo
I absolutely believe MM somehow discovered AM's financial records. AM's fear of MM disclosing what she knew could have been the impetus for all the events that followed.
 
  • #271
I absolutely believe MM somehow discovered AM's financial records. AM's fear of MM disclosing what she knew could have been the impetus for all the events that followed.

This is a strong possibility for the murders.
 
  • #272
Three days before the hearing, Alex Murdaugh was with his father at the hospital. According to a person close to the family, he came back to Moselle, took a nap and when he awoke, he left to check on his mother, who suffers from dementia. He didn’t see Maggie and Paul before he left, according to the person.

The Unraveling of the Murdaugh Dynasty: Unsolved Murders, Insurance Fraud and Missing Millions

Paul was shot in the chest and head, according to his death certificate. He was shot at close range with a shotgun, according to a person familiar with the investigation.

Maggie was shot multiple times, including in the back, with a different gun, and cases of a type of ammunition known as 300 Blackout were found nearby, according to two people familiar with the situation. The family owned an AR-15 style rifle that can use that type of ammunition but it wasn’t recovered at the scene or turned over for inspection, the people said.
 
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Although there is not a lot of new information in this article, I keep seeing this mugshot of AM and for the life of me I cannot see 20 years of drug use at the level that the missing money suggests. I have seen mug shots of men and women much younger than him which means they haven't been using as long and they have sunken eyes and blotchy skin and hollow cheeks and they look sick and worn down. How can he look so healthy ? I don't buy it !

I think H has made the drugs front and center in an attempt to soften the major financial crimes. ‘Look over here not over there’ kinda thing. After all ‘drugs make you do strange things’. As if to say AM is a victim of drug addiction otherwise he would never have committed these crimes. He’s an upstanding person in the community with no prior criminal history…blah blah blah. It’s not working. <modsnip>
 
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Three days before the hearing, Alex Murdaugh was with his father at the hospital. According to a person close to the family, he came back to Moselle, took a nap and when he awoke, he left to check on his mother, who suffers from dementia. He didn’t see Maggie and Paul before he left, according to the person.

The Unraveling of the Murdaugh Dynasty: Unsolved Murders, Insurance Fraud and Missing Millions

Paul was shot in the chest and head, according to his death certificate. He was shot at close range with a shotgun, according to a person familiar with the investigation.

Maggie was shot multiple times, including in the back, with a different gun, and cases of a type of ammunition known as 300 Blackout were found nearby, according to two people familiar with the situation. The family owned an AR-15 style rifle that can use that type of ammunition but it wasn’t recovered at the scene or turned over for inspection, the people said.

Three days before what hearing? (in your first sentence). There is a paywall.
 
  • #276
@Luna20

I said before as far as jail/ prison sentence, lighter sentence for addict then for a dealer.

I still feel that something is off, something that hasn’t come to the surface yet.

Jmo
 
  • #277
Three days before what hearing? (in your first sentence). There is a paywall.


The hearing (mediation) for the Beach lawsuit, AM was suppose to shiw financial records.

I can’t get back in it now, some articles I can get in once a day after that, no access.
 
  • #278
So just how many charges does AM have as of now?

I give all kinds of kudos to the people building this case. It has so many different angles and it seems like everything that is uncovered leads to even more to consider.

It makes my brain ache just trying follow along here, I can't imagine putting it all together for prosecution.

I agree that AM was 100% behind the killings of Paul and Maggie. Maggie could expose a lot and Paul was an ongoing liability that threatened exposure in all sorts of ways.

MOO
 
  • #279
@Luna

June 4 there was a mediation, there were others before. On the 4th AM was suppose to have financial records, he didn’t. There was a june 10th meeting set up for him to have his records. His dad died the 10th.
 
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Three days before the hearing, Alex Murdaugh was with his father at the hospital. According to a person close to the family, he came back to Moselle, took a nap and when he awoke, he left to check on his mother, who suffers from dementia. He didn’t see Maggie and Paul before he left, according to the person.

The Unraveling of the Murdaugh Dynasty: Unsolved Murders, Insurance Fraud and Missing Millions

Paul was shot in the chest and head, according to his death certificate. He was shot at close range with a shotgun, according to a person familiar with the investigation.

Maggie was shot multiple times, including in the back, with a different gun, and cases of a type of ammunition known as 300 Blackout were found nearby, according to two people familiar with the situation. The family owned an AR-15 style rifle that can use that type of ammunition but it wasn’t recovered at the scene or turned over for inspection, the people said.

I wonder where they were suppose to be or where their phones show them to be when he leaves after the nap? I’ll restate my confusion on this missing gun.
 
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