SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #5

[everybodhi]

I din't know the area at all. Is there a swamp close by or just woods?

There is a river on the property

 

[sunshineray]

The media that reported the iron clad alibi is FITSnews, not a websleuth approved source, and even their account (from an anonymous source) throws some questions into the mix.

Alex Murdaugh: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com

They [FITSNews] reported through sources that Alex Murdaugh has an “ironclad alibi.”

However, Alex Murdaugh is “a central focus of the probe,” the site reported. Alex Murdaugh has not been arrested, charged, or publicly accused of anything in connection with the deaths; nor have on-the-record sources confirmed the FITSNews account.

The site noted that he has an alibi but quoted a source as saying there are “credible concerns” about when the shootings happened and said authorities are looking into “possible manipulation of the crime scene.”

Edited to change quote

But it wasn't it the GMA reporter interviewing AM's brothers that spoke to them, telling her AM had brought his Dad to the hospital and then stopped back to see his Mom was ok? That being the alibi, I'm guessing?

 

[sunshineray]

There is a river on the property

Where AM pulled over to "change his tire"?

 

[everybodhi]

Where AM pulled over to "change his tire"?

Oh no, sorry, I misunderstood.
The river runs through the hunting lodge where the murders took place

 

[sunshineray]

I heard of another case, where a guy set up his neighbor to shoot his parents and sister. The neighbor as pre-planned intentionally grazed him on the shoulder. I am struggling as to why they Med flighted a superficial wound.

And to an out of state hospital.

 

[sunshineray]

Oh no, sorry, I misunderstood.
The river runs through the hunting lodge where the murders took place

No worries, I was just wondering if there's a swamp near by the "flat tire" scene. Someone mentioned where's the gun?

 

[everybodhi]

But it wasn't it the GMA reporter interviewing AM's brothers that spoke to them, telling her AM had brought his Dad to the hospital and then stopped back to see his Mom was ok? That being the alibi, I'm guessing?

Yes, but that's not where the "ironclad alibi" quote comes from.
The ABC GMA video opens with a statement by a reporter that Alex took his father back to the hospital that day and then went to see his mother and then made the gruesome discovery, "his family tells us", then they go to the two brother's interview so you don't actually hear them say it, and no mention of a timeline.

This article from ABC transcribes the brothers statements, including media commentary.
The entire GMA segment is less than 5 minutes, most of it is commentary and even includes a clip about Paul's boat crash.
Brothers of prominent South Carolina family speak out after 2 relatives found dead

 

[clearskies1]

Yes, but that's not where the "ironclad alibi" quote comes from.
The ABC GMA video opens with a statement by an reporter that Alex was at the hospital visiting his father that day and then went to see his mother, then they go to the two brother's interview so you don't actually hear them say it, and no mention of a timeline.

This article from ABC transcribes the brothers statements, but with media commentary, as well.
The entire interview is less than 5 minutes, including GMA commentary.
Brothers of prominent South Carolina family speak out after 2 relatives found dead

BBM. At 0:15 the reporter says that the day of the murders AM took his dying father to the hospital, then checked on his mother and according to his family he then returned home and found the bodies. Anyway, nothing has been publicly confirmed by LE so we don't know what LE believes or what the actual evidence is re anyone's alibi.

 

[sunshineray]

Sorry for dumb question. I thought AM had an alibi when his wife and son were murdered. Wasn’t he with his Dad who was hospitalized? How could he be a POI? Hit man?

It sure would be helpful to see video showing any kind of verification, wouldn't it? Many large facilities have cameras in their parking lots and at entrances and exits.

 

[sunshineray]

Yes, but that's not where the "ironclad alibi" quote comes from.
The ABC GMA video opens with a statement by a reporter that Alex took his father to the hospital that day and then went to see his mother, "his family tells us", then they go to the two brother's interview so you don't actually hear them say it, and no mention of a timeline.

This article from ABC transcribes the brothers statements, but with media commentary, as well.
The entire interview is less than 5 minutes, including GMA commentary.
Brothers of prominent South Carolina family speak out after 2 relatives found dead

Yes correct that's where the information originated. I don't know about the language.

 

[everybodhi]

BBM. At 0:15 the reporter says that the day of the murders AM took his dying father to the hospital, then checked on his mother and according to his family he then returned home and found the bodies. Anyway, nothing has been publicly confirmed by LE so we don't know what LE believes or what the actual evidence is re anyone's alibi.

Exactly. I edited to make sure this is clear

 

[everybodhi]

Yes correct that's where the information originated. I don't know about the language.

"Ironclad alibi" came from an anonymous source to FITSnews.
I posted a link upthread.

 

[chaz]

I wonder what time AM pulled over and how long he had been there, parked along the road before he was shot.
The impounded vehicle can tell I gues.

 

[taylorss]

Legal dynasty heir Alex Murdaugh's brother blasts him for 'stealing from their law firm by manipulating his most trusted relationships' and says he's shocked to learn of his sibling's 'opioid addiction' three months after murders of wife and son


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9971841/Alex-Murdaughs-brother-Randy-blasts-allegations-took-money-law-firm.html

 

[Elley Mae]

That rifle would eliminate the need to chase anybody. Whoever done this went there to kill them, being armed like that.

2 different weapons.

All just my opine.

I think the shotgun was The M’s or PM’s

I think it was one person and the rifle is theirs.

Jmo

 

[chaz]

Alex Murdaugh's brother Randy blasts him over allegations he took money from law firm | Daily Mail Online

There's the " hours before the shooting" again.
Griffin told the Island Packet the widower had been on his way to Charleston hours before the shooting, but had 'car trouble', and stopped.

And also this:
He said it was a drive-by shooting and that he didn't get a glimpse of the assailant, but that it was likely to do with the murders of his wife and son which occurred three months ago and remain unsolved.

 

[minusfour]

Golly, what will happen next? (This is an amazing story!)

 

[Crosscntrymom]

It seems (MOO) that the Murdaugh family held power over LE, prosecutors, judges etc in the area for a long time. IMHO they have never been held accountable; what makes it clear that AM will see justice this time?

 

[Betty P]

Where AM pulled over to "change his tire"?

There is a road nearby that has the same name as the river.

 

[zencompass]

September 8, 2021:
Mark Tinsley, lawyer for Estate of Mallory Beach filed a Lis Pendens against Richard Alexander Murdaugh property (it includes the Edisto Property)

* A lis pendens is an official notice to the public that a lawsuit involving a claim on a property has been filed.

https://publicindex.sccourts.org/Ha...103801216898881197810011247494378757877106111

"NOTICE is hereby given that an action has been commenced by the Plaintiff against Richard Alexander Murdaugh and Richard Alexander Murdaugh, Jr. on March 29, 2019, in the Hampton County Court of Common Pleas, C/A #2019-CP-25-00111.

Judgment by this court in this action may result in a lien against the following described properties: 1770 Acres in Colleton and Hampton County, South Carolina commonly known as the Moselle property.

The land spans both Colleton and Hampton counties, with approximately 870 +/- acres in Hampton and just less than 900 acres in Colleton. Also, a lot with improvements in Colleton County at Edisto, S.C.

COUNTY: TMS# 146-00-00-004 537 acres Swamp tracts
TMS# 146-00-00-002 96 acres Fender tract
TMS# 146-00-00-003 240 acres Lightsey tract COLLETON COUNTY: TMS# 105-00-00-013 127 acres Fender tract
TMS# 122-00-00-003 319 acres Swamp tract
TMS# 122-00-00-005 26 acres Lightsey tract
TMS# 122-00-00-008 85.1 acres Waldberg/Upchurch tract
TMS# 122-00-00-009 21.6 acres Smoak tract
TMS# 123-00-00-002 176 acres Home tract
TMS# 123-00-00-033 128 acres Hooker tract

ELECTRONICALLY FILED - 2021 Sep 08 4:25 PM - HAMPTON - COMMON PLEAS - CASE#2021LP2500022 - 2 -

TMS# 123-00-00-0037 16.5 acres Home tract COLLETON COUNTY - EDISTO, S.C.

TMS# 354-03-00-024 Lot 2/Block CF Tract S-15-765 Big Bay Drive Edisto Island, S.C.